Only 1/3 in Alabama would vote for Barack Obama

[Eric J in MN]

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=9d5bfde9-f208-4f3e-8f44-f0bd150930a5

ALABAMA SUSA POLL

If there were an election for President of the United States today, and the only two names on the ballot were Republican John McCain and ... Democrat Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?

McCain 57% Clinton 37%



What if it was John McCain against Democrat Barack Obama?

McCain 58% Obama 34%

[jlake]

1. So much for "Red state flipper" Obama. He'll clearly be lucky to get 50+1

[anonymous171]

5. Because all red states are as red as Alabama. nt

[jlake]

12. I have been told many times he would win AL....not even close... Hillary does better.

[RamboLiberal]

34. She still loses Alabama so it's a big so what

Remember those things called electoral votes? I think Obama can win every blue state Hillary would. Plus I think he can win some purple she can't.

[jlake]

77. Yeah, but Obama's selling point is he can win. He doesn't even fare as well as Hill.

And Flordia polls are SCARY for Obama.

[Blondiegrrl]

97. He can win in quite a few red states. No one expects him to win

every single one.

Geez. Are you being deliberately obtuse?

[jlake]

Florida is a must win....he can't.

[Alexander]

171. Florida's rigged. We can forget about Florida.

Obama is winning in Iowa, New Hampshire, Colorado and Nevada, which together have almost as many electoral votes as Florida anyway.

Plus, he's nearly tied with McCain in Kansas and does better than Hillary in semi-blue states like Washington.

[robbedvoter]

185. No Florida, no White House.

[jlake]

200. "Florida doesn't matter"

[Forkboy]

111. Yeah, because all the other candidates in history sell themselves as losers.

[jlake]

116. Yeah, but smart folk know how to seperate the sales pitch from reality... Obama

has fooled so many..... when reality sets in, it will be dismal.

[Forkboy]

167. Maybe, maybe not. I'm certainly not taking your word for it though.

Because you've shown yourself to be anything but smart.

[bowens43]

179. bullshit.

Hillary is unelectable in any of the red states and even in some blue states.

[Tarheel_Dem]

84. told by whom? anything other than anecdotal evidence?

If anyone here thinks that a Democrat, ANY Democrat would win AL is delusional. I have no such delusions.

[jlake]

96. Why don't you search for it? Obamabots have told me that Obama can win 50 states handily.

[anonymous171]

121. Keep it up.

"No you can't" has worked so well before.

[Tarheel_Dem]

125. hey, you threw it out there...so if you can't provide proof, I'll just

assume you were lying, as I initially thought. :shrug:

[jlake]

128. Yes, go ahead and make an ass out of u.

[Tarheel_Dem]

199. i think exactly the reverse happened...as you can't back up your lie (eom)

[democrattotheend]

188. Who ever said he would win Alabama?

And Clinton gets barely more than 1/3 of the vote too.

[MadBadger]

8. He's down six in KS, and up in VA

[jlake]

17. Sorry, but JK was up in some Red states by DOUBLE DIGITS at this point last go 'round

[scheming daemons]

36. So it would be better news if he was BEHIND, Like Hillary?

Explain THAT logic.

[jlake]

54. Just pointing out that things can change.

Obama will be lucky to win IL & MA or NY in the GE.

[jackson_dem]

79. Apples and oranges

A fair comparison for Hillary would be Gore 00's numbers given how well-known they are and how defined they are. The analogues to Obama are Bush 00' and to a lesser extent Kerry 04'. Gore was down by 11 at this point nationally...

[MadBadger]

Well then dont dismiss his ability to win red states because its so early and things can change

[jlake]

57. Yes, "things can change" Obama can head Lower and Lower.

[MadBadger]

59. Or higher and higher.

[jlake]

61. Once the media starts to attack that is VERY Unlikely.

[nolabels]

144. So if that is true then in 2006 with the corporate media lined up behind republicans.........

doing just about everything and anything to at least keep close for them that they could but still they lost pretty big, why was that? Another clue you might want to ask is with corporate America wanting to pick Hillary as the democratic party nominee that she now seems to be losing? Why was it that the corporations spent so much capital and effort on her? Was it they knew they would get their way with her or was she was a better set up to run against in the general election? She seems to not have much chance now but still feels the need to trash the whole thing if she cannot win. This don't make much sense to me unless she loyalties somewhere else and there will be some kind of payoff to her that has not been told of.

Course then again she really could be that vindictive and spiteful, i have seen some people that are like that........ who knows really :shrug:

[Blondiegrrl]

101. You mean like Hillary is doing?

[jlake]

109. You're trying to hard.... and you're not fooling me.

[Alexander]

172. If Obama's a pushover and he's giving Hillary trouble, how is she going to beat McCain?

Your argument doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

[Blue_State_Elitist]

74. Early GE polls mean nothing.

[I Vote In Pittsburgh]

89. They mean far more than nothing. n/t

[Kittycat]

43. Well it's a good thing you plan on voting for McCain then, right?

[Blondiegrrl]

94. Good thing the poll says Hillary would beat McCain in Alabama!

Oh, wait ...

[miceelf]

181. RIiiiiight

Cause you know, if you can't win Alabama, then you can't win Ohio or Connecticutt or Florida or New Mexico or Nevada.

All red states are identical in every way.

WHy not talk about how Obama currently leads McCain in Iowa, while Clinton trails him badly?

[lapfog_1]

Tell you a secret... we are not winning Alabama this fall... - n/t

[Rosemary2205]

2. I'd be genuinely surprised if it's THAT high.

for either one of them. Alabama is mighty skeery place.

[lligrd]

3. And Your Point Is? nt

[LisaL]

13. I guess the point would be:

maybe we should be getting ready for president McCain.

[lligrd]

19. Right, Alabama Is The US

I forgot. How silly of me. :sarcasm:

[LisaL]

23. It's a part of the US.

[lligrd]

25. And Your Point Is?? nt

[Mooney]

52. New York is also part of the US n/t

[woolldog]

165. So goes Alabama...

So goes the nation.

[Eric J in MN]

42. I found it disappointing that such a small percentage in Alabama...

...support Obama.

I voted for Obama.

[lligrd]

64. As You Can See, It Wasn't Taken That Way

Hard not to see sides in anything posted these days.

[billbuckhead]

4. But we've been told that Obama will carry all those Southern red states

:spray:

[lligrd]

14. Who In The F*** Told You That?

What the hell is wrong with you guys?

[jackson_dem]

56. Obama's Rove. David Axlerod

[juajen]

90. What's wrong with us? You guys are just trying to lower expectations.

Scared of Hillary and backing off on all that "Obama can turn red states" crap? Now you know why we naysayed all the open caucuses and primaries he won with indie and republican votes. We told you our sources were saying that there was widespread instructions to republicans to go and vote in our caucuses and primaries and vote Obama. All of the breakdown on his elections show the large indie and pug vote. I wonder how many naive people were swayed by that ole "gotta get on the band wagon crap"? If Obama wins, we are screwed, my friends, screwed.

[woolldog]

16. No Obama supporter told you that

he would carry Alabama.

He has a chance in Georgia and South Carolina. Maybe Lousiana, but that's pushing it...

[jlake]

26. Those claims are equally outlandish.

[woolldog]

30. No they are not.

[jlake]

40. If you think Obama can carry LA or SC you have lost your mind.

[woolldog]

I said GA and SC.

Learn to read.

[jlake]

70. I can read.

"
he would carry Alabama.

He has a chance in Georgia and South Carolina. Maybe Lousiana, but that's pushing it..."

You said LA.

[woolldog]

75. I said he MIGHT have a chance in LA

He DOES have a chance in GA and SC.

I base that on turnout figures from the primary and figures from the 2004 election.

[jlake]

83. Yeah, he doesn't have a chance though.

[Rosemary2205]

117. Georgia????

Look, I voted Obama but the idea any Dem - even Lieberman or old Zell hisself could take Georgia is just unrealistic IMHO. Hope, dream, work our asses off to squeeze out every vote we can here, but I hope the Dems aren't banking on GA.

[woolldog]

166. Yes we're counting on you Rosemary

To turn out the votes and carry Georgia for Obama. ;-)

Seriously a 25% decrease in Republican turnout in Georgia and increase in democratic turnout would put GA in play. I don't think that's unreasonable given the apathy of republicans so far in this election and how energized the democratic electorate seems to be.

[0007]

48. Dude!

[Colobo]

6. Democrats can nominate Jesus and we would still lose Alabama.

[lligrd]

And Some Here Would Be Supporting Hillary

and knocking his cult like status.

[XemaSab]

53. That f***in' hippie?

That boy needs to git him a haircut. Looks lak a damn girl. :eyes:

:P

[Extend a Hand]

87. I think you should get a duzy for that one

:rofl:

[AX10]

7. We have been told that we should pick Obama because...

he'll carry all those red states with a large margin.
Seems that theory is utter nonsense.

[emilyg]

18. It is nonsense.

[jlake]

28. Clearly.

[NJSecularist]

201. That's funny

I don't remember anybody saying that. Stop making stuff up.

[DJ13]

9. So, the reality is that in the most bigoted part of the South Clinton only beats Obama by 3%?

And this is bad news for Obama in what way?

[woolldog]

27. John Kerry

got 37% of the vote in Alabama in the 2004 race.

[FrenchieCat]

10. Well, they aren't counting the hundred thousands that don't normally vote, that would.....

So I'm worried about this, like I'm worried that I won't have any clean underwear tomorrow, cause they are all in the wash right now. :eyes:

[Cha]

Alabama doesn't even

know it's going to vote for Obama in November.

[jlake]

31. So, do you think Obama can win AL?

[FrenchieCat]

46. I think he would win it better than Hillary Clinton could.

How's that?

[jlake]

50. That means "no" and losing by less still means no electoral votes... but what about FL, where

Obama loses to McCain by 16 points. OUCH!

[FrenchieCat]

62. I think that means that Obama hasn't campaigned in Florida or Alabama.....

that's what it means, dumbass.

I mean, do you think everyone is as stupid as you? :eyes:

[jlake]

73. Yes. To know Obama is to love him.

:puke:

[FrenchieCat]

82. Now, you've got it.

And knowing you in any capacity has been a real pain. I will be really glad when you are no longer here.

[jlake]

86. Yes, it can be a big Obama circle-jerk.

[FrenchieCat]

115. Stop your crying and wipe your damn nose!

[jlake]

119. I'll be at the McCain victory party awaiting Hillary's triumphant run in 2012.

[FrenchieCat]

135. Like what in the fuck do you know?

Not a thing....that's what.

Your hypothesis are being pulled out of your ass and your are treating them seriously. Now that's what's funny! :rofl:

[jlake]

139. You are a sick sick sick being.

[DearAbby]

162. Bwahahaha on the snot bubbles! n/t

[EmilyAnne]

11. Oh, oh Alabama

The devil fools with the best laid plans.

[southlandshari]

186. Oh yeah?

Well, your mama has stinky breath and wears dirty underwear in public.

So there.

Not quite as poetic, but just as intelligent a comment.

Neener, neener and all that crap.

x(

[EmilyAnne]

204. Sorry. Its a Neil Young lyric. I should have clarified.

And how do you know my mama?

[NastyRiffraff]

15. Republicans could run Garfield the Cat and win Alabama.

That's why I had to laugh when people said "OOh, look! Obama's winning the South!!!!"

No, he won't win the South as a whole, in the GE. Not even close. Neither will Hillary. We can slowly change that, but it won't happen this cycle.

[AX10]

24. The deep south is as Republican as Massachussets and...

Rhode Island are Democratic.

[Hippo_Tron]

37. Very well put

[knowledgeispwr]

20. And only 1/3 would vote for Clinton, so what?

If you're trying to say that Obama would do no better in "red" states than Clinton, I suggest you are mistaken.

Clearly, there are states where there is very little chance the dem nominee will pick up in 2008, but there are others that are more likely to be competitive if Obama is the nominee. I think states like Virginia, NC, Missouri will go more blue (perhaps flip in the presidential race) and dems will be helped down-ticket. Are Utah, Alabama and Mississippi going to go dem in the presidential election? It would take a miracle.

[rpannier]

21. We aren't gonna do well in many states regardless of who we nominate

That doesn't mean it's a lost cause.

Some states that come to mind:
Alabama
Mississippi
Louisiana
Utah
Oklahoma
Indiana
Idaho
Arizona

Top my list of lost causes no matter whom we pick

[jlake]

33. Hillary would carry AZ.

[Obamaman2008]

55. Yeah, and Obama would carry Idaho! j/k nt

[jlake]

60. Ha! I have been told by 2 Obama supporters that very thing....

[Tarheel_Dem]

against McCain? I was right..you are delusional, and for someone

who has lost ELEVEN......count 'em........ELEVEN straight contests, I have absolutely no faith that she'll fare any better in the GE.

Hillary's campaign will be required study on every college campus in America. I have no faith in someone who can blow through $135 million, only to be defeated in the end.

[jlake]

113. Yes, I think AZ demographics will favor Hillary over native son McCain.

[The_Casual_Observer]

22. So much for a 50 state sweep.

[jlake]

Maybe not, McCain will have a shot at it.

[lligrd]

39. With Democrats Like You

No doubt.

[jlake]

45. Don't say I didn't warn you. You have fallen for the GOP Set up.

[lligrd]

58. You Sound Like The GOP To Me

So does Hillary lately.

[jlake]

66. Okay then.

[lligrd]

68. Good.

[jlake]

72. What a fricking cultist.

[lligrd]

76. What A Friggen Elitist.

[jlake]

80. I'm not the one who is a latte liberal. I can't afford to cave to the Republicans anymore.

[lligrd]

85. Then Why Are You Supporting The One Who Did?

Or maybe you think the IWR was a good thing and enjoy being wiretapped.

[jlake]

88. "Democrats need to quite the petty partisan hollering at the Republicans"

Code for "We need to shut up and bend over"

[lligrd]

91. Hillary Led The Way And Showed Us How To Do It

She lost me then. Sorry!

[jlake]

93. Okay. Enjoy McClurkin, no healthcare coverage, and continued war.

[lligrd]

98. You Obviously Have To Have The Last Word

But I think you should reconsider hoping McCain wins just because your candidate is losing. And Hillary's health INSURANCE Plan sucks.

[jlake]

102. No, Obama will be far worse than McCain.

[lligrd]

112. That Is Sick! Then The 100 Year War That Hillary Helped

instigate will be on your head. You really should see someone about your problem.

[jlake]

114. Yes, I need a "conversion" to be a "believer" or I am "Sick" and "need help"

CULTIST ALERT!!!!

[lligrd]

123. You Are Laughable. MCCAIN SUPPORTER ALERT! nt

[LisaL]

41. I don't want president McCain.

[jlake]

49. Then support Hillary.

[Blondiegrrl]

104. ... thus assuring McCain's win. Excellent strategy!

[jlake]

110. Somehow, I think you want McCain to win. Thus the backing of Obama.

[lligrd]

146. A Bit Hypocritical Isn't That Since You Said President McCain

was preferable?

[Mooney]

65. McCain would absolutely carry AZ n/t

[saracat]

177. Nope. He wouldn't. Too many GOP HATE him, and he is my senator!

[MrSlayer]

29. What a shock. Alabama against Obama? Say it isn't so.

That hotbed of liberalism and fairness against a Democrat? I can't believe it. He should just drop out now.

[flyarm]

32. Obama is -16 to McCain in Fla...eom

[marmar]

35. Who gives a sh*t....Do you honestly expect any Dem to win Alabama?

This post is pointless....Then again, this IS GD-Primaries.

[jlake]

38. No, but I would in FL where Obama is down 16 to McCain.

[AX10]

44. Great point!

:kick:

[lligrd]

81. Obama Hasn't Campaigned In Florida Yet

That will change.

[jlake]

92. Yes, to know Obama is to love him.

[lligrd]

100. All I Can Say Is That The More I Come To Know Hillary

the less respect for her I have. She has been a bitter disappointment.

[jlake]

105. My spidey senses tell me you never liked Hillary in the least.

[lligrd]

107. Your "Spidey" Would Be As Wrong As Your Logic Is

I once admired Hillary and couldn't wait to be able to vote for her. Then she sold America out.

[johnnydrama]

106. you were probably one of the ones

that said Obama would lose CA to McCain becauase of the Hispanic vote.

Same place shows Obama up by 27% in CA, and 45% with Hispanics.

[jlake]

108. I did not say that, but I do think CA will be VERY Close.

Which is SCARY as HELL!

[lligrd]

118. You Mean You Are Scared Obama Might Win Since You

said you think McCain would be preferable. You are one sorry Democrat.

[jlake]

120. No, I think it is scary that Democrats would be dumb enough to select a nominee

who fares so poorly in a delegate rich "sure thing" state like CA.

[lligrd]

129. You Already Said You President McCain Would Be Preferable

I no longer think your opinion carries much weight.

[jlake]

133. Then stop responding to me. Obama is simply not a Democrat.

[lligrd]

141. That Is Friggen Ridiculous. Voting For McCain Would Make

you the one that is not a Democrat.

[jlake]

143. I am a registered Independent. So, one thing that you say is true.

[lligrd]

150. The Truth At Last - You Will Vote For McCain

Your days here are numbered.

[woolldog]

122. CA will not be close.

I live in CA. It won't be close.

[jlake]

127. Ha! you have no idea.....49/48 for McCain

[woolldog]

132. It wont be close.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportPopup.aspx?g=13f96411-ff24-4479-9d8b-c51804507f93&q=45622

[lligrd]

138. You Wish

Your dream of a McCain Presidency isn't going to happen with California's help.

[jlake]

140. McCain is not my "dream", so STFU

[lligrd]

142. You Said He Was Preferable, Did You Not? nt

[jlake]

145. Preferable to a disaster does not make him my "dream"

No more than dying by lethal injection is a "dream" compared to electrocution.

[lligrd]

152. Me Thinks You Are Partially Responsible For The Disaster

we already have. I won't be taking any advice from one who votes Repug.

[jlake]

154. Me thinks I voted fo Kerry.

[lligrd]

157. And The Election Before? nt

[jlake]

161. Me thinks I was under voting age.

[lligrd]

163. Awe, One Of Those Naive Young Hillary Cultists Huh? nt

[jlake]

202. Yeah, I'm the cultist

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

[woolldog]

148. Now that I checked. Survey USA

Survey USA has Obama beating McCain in CA by a larger margin than Clinton (61/34 vs. 58/35). :rofl:

You don't know what you're talking about.

[jlake]

149. Check FL.... and things will change once the MSM fires up against 0bama.

[woolldog]

156. I agree.

I already said Obama will lose FLA in the GE. So will Hillary.

But:

He has a chance at Kansas. HRC loses Kansas to McCain
He is winning WI; HRC is losing WI to McCain
He is winning Iowa. HRC loses Iowa to McCain
He is winning Oregon; HRC is losing Oregon to McCain
He is winning Virginia; HRC is losing VA to McCain
He can win Colorado; HRC has no chance to win Colorado

In fact, I've been unable to find any states that HRC will win, that BO will lose. On the other hand I've found many states that BO has in play, that HRC cannot win.

[Occam Bandage]

131. You may have noticed that he has a habit of destroying 20-point leads wherever he campaigns.

[jlake]

136. With the help of the media. When the media turns (as it has started) that won't happen.

[woolldog]

151. Riiiight.

You're nothing but a shill. You don't even have your facts straight.

[jlake]

155. Obama: PRO MEDIA 74%. Hillary 26% McCain 47%

[woolldog]

158. No one likes her

except for a small group of democrats. And even a lot of democrats don't like her. And it's not the media. It's her. Why can't you see that???

[Occam Bandage]

160. Hillary's favorables go down the more experience people have with her. Obama's go up.

The media, which is constantly exposed to them, are simply following the same pattern.

[Occam Bandage]

159. The MSM is nationwide. You'd think he'd be rising evenly, then, and not

spiking wherever he shows up.

[XemaSab]

47. Wow, that's a whole 2% less than Kerry got in 2004

I'm convinced; we'll never win with Obama. We should put Hillary up instead.

:eyes:

[Radical Activist]

63. Just what I was going to point out.

[LisaL]

69. Well, Kerry didn't exactly win the presidency, did he?

[Occam Bandage]

134. It didn't turn on Alabama.

[jlake]

137. Actually, if JK had won AL he would have won the presidency.... so you could say

that it did.

[Alexander]

174. Your math is wrong. 251 + 9 = 260. Kerry still would've lost with Alabama.

Go away, McCain supporter.

[Obamaman2008]

51. Choose a nominee based on who loses less in Alabama?

Not a good strategery is you ask mes?

[tritsofme]

67. The differences are statistically insignificant.

What point is this supposed to prove?

[TSIAS]

71. No serious person would expect Obama to win AL

Except for maybe a few over-exhuberent online supporters, nobody believes Obama would win AL in the general. If he did, it would be part of an unprecedented 50-state landslide.

However, Obama would be able to possibly carry states like Louisiana or Arkansas. The best I expect is for Obama to overperform and possibly help a few more southern Democratic House members get in.

[charlie]

78. 32 years since a Dem won Alabama

It'll rain money before anyone other than a Repub takes Alabama anytime soon.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

95. interesting and affirmation to what I have been saying for months here...thanks for that.

[lligrd]

103. You've Been Saying For Months That Neither Hillary Nor

Obama can take Alabama? You must be a friggen genius!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

130. yes I am and I'm doing Dr.James D Watson proud!

[Blondiegrrl]

99. I've got some very bad news for you:

Obama won't win West Virginia either.

EVERYBODY PANIC! Here comes President McCain!

[Eurobabe]

124. Like any Dem has a shot at taking AL anyhow

PS. Obama is just 3 pts (within the MOE) of Clinton. So neither is a winner/

[Occam Bandage]

126. Oh, well, if he can't win Alabama, I guess he can't win.

[JimGinPA]

147. If Obama Won The Primary...

How is it now Hillery has a higher % against McCain?

[Tom Joad]

153. Seems like Alabama don't like Dems.

[texas_indy]

164. Don't worry. Obama will have a higher percentage when the vote actually happens.

After all, haven't we had numerous posts here on DU claiming that presidental polls are too far out and should be considered fantasy?

Don't forget, it was claimed that Texas Latinos were going to vote in lock step for Hillary.
And that ain't happening!! YEEEEE-HAAAAAA!!

Texas is Obama country! VIVA OBAMA!!

[Zhade]

168. ...or for Clinton.

Your subject line is a lie.

I know, Clinton supporters lie?

[LibDemAlways]

169. It makes no difference who the repukes nominate. They

could nominate Charles Manson and he'd win the Southern States.

Neither Obama nor Hillary is going to win in the South.

[amborin]

170. disagree

Hillary is sort of from the south..she can easily win part of the south

california loves hillary....most of the donations of 200 and over went to hillary's campaign

if obama gets the nomination, it's possible he won't carry california

can anyone win the GE without both california and the south?

doubtful

[FrenchieCat]

173. That's what you wish to say simply because it helps Hillary Clinton.....

but let met tell you something; you don't even have facts to back up your theory....and so, your opinion is now discounted.

Try again, and next time, provide facts to back your shit up.

doubtful when folks type just because they think things.

[texas_indy]

178. You mean like how Bill win all those southern states himself, except for

'96 election: texas, OK, alabama, miss., georgia, N carolina, S carolina, Virgina
'92 election: texas, OK, alabama, miss., florida, N carolina, S carolina, Virgina


A Hillary nomination means McDud for president.

Does any one remember some one called ROSS PEROT?!?!?!
If not for him Bill would have lost '92 and probably '96.
Bill only got 43% popular vote in '92 and 49% in '96.

Hillary will do worse than Bill.

With Obama, we win the presidential office and have coattails.


Texas is Obama country! VIVA OBAMA!

[krispos42]

175. He does that well in Alabama?

Not bad at all.

[LisaL]

176. Yes, it really is amazing.

:eyes:

[TexasObserver]

180. According to your post, Hillary and Obama both lose Alabama by 20 points, so why only mention Obama?

It is more appropriate to look at that data and say "no matter who wins the Democratic nomination, we will probably lose Alabama."

And that is not a surprise.

[GOPBasher]

182. And Hillary does really well, too. Shockingly, we might lose Alabama in November. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

183. The Dems Have A 60-40 Chance Of Winning The White House Regardless Of The Nominee

But to suggest either can pick up more than a handful of red states is not supported by the facts...There's a reason LBJ was the last Democratic pres to win a pop vote and E C vote landslide...

[Major Hogwash]

190. Well, that's a lousy prediction. Who'd you pick in the Super Bowl?

What if McCain's pants fall down during one of the debates and he wets himself?

Or what if McCain says he wants to bomb Iran before this Christmas during one of the debates, claiming "they would never expect it to come so soon since I haven't won the election yet."

Won't the odds go up then?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

192. I Picked The Giants...I Like Underdogs...If Everybody Is One Side I Want To Be On The Other

That's why I hated disco, leisure suits, and Star Wars...

I also liked their blue collar attitude and play...

Do you really think it's going to be a blow out?

The Democrats haven't been on the right side of a blow out in forty years... That's a lot of history...

[Major Hogwash]

194. Maybe. A lot could happen between now and November 4th.

I don't have a crystal ball, but I think the numbers may go higher for the Dems this year.
Maybe as high as 75-25.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

197. Could Be

I checked again... The odds at the London gambling houses have went from 3-2 to 2-1...

I just think this country is pretty evenly divuded... And Bush* is the pres... How hard can it be for him to gin up an international incident that will benefit the Republicans via the "rally around the flag" effect...

[DemGa]

184. Looks like Obama is "uniting the opposition"....nt

[Political Heretic]

187. BREAKING NEWS: SKY IS BLUE

..developing...

[southlandshari]

189. No offense, but a poll out of New Jersey posted by someone in Minnesota

doesn't really carry a lot of weight with this Alabama liberal.

The political pollsters and talking heads have been wrong before. Often, in fact, in recent weeks.

Just sayin'....

:)

[depakid]

191. Obama would do better than 34%

but it would be foolhardy to think that any Dem will make it competitive this year- or maybe any year, no matter how much they oander to the right.

[chyjo]

193. crap

We won't be able to win Alabama in the general? Whatever shall we do?

[NC_Nurse]

195. There is no way AL will go Dem.

So what's your point?

[rug]

196. Too bad it's not a caucus in November.

[jmg257]

198. I forget - is Alabama a "state that matters" or not? Can't keep track as there are so many now! ???

[Infinite Hope]

203. That's pretty good for not having campaigned there. He's been behind Clinton by larger margins, but

closes the margin and wins in a matter of 1-2 weeks.

Those numbers are probably as good or better than the final tally of Bush vs. Kerry in that state which is significant considering how early this is.

[npincus]

205. Dem turnout will trump Repubs

so much for polls.