Wait a minute....you can't have it both ways....

[BlackVelvet04]

I've seen the claims right here on D.U. that the fact that Barack Obama's father was a Muslim would help him in foreign affairs...the fact his grandmother is in Kenya would help him. Now it's a foul to show him in Kenyan garb?

You guys are throwing out accusations of a smear when there is no proof the Hillary campaign had anything to do with the photo and there is no reason to claim anyone using the photo is smearing Obama. It's not photoshopped, it's a real photo depicting something everyone already knows.

Are you trying to tell me that voters don't know his father was a Muslim and his grandmother lives in Kenya? Is this really news?

[kikiek]

1. Only when you want it to be. Outrage can be good for results. I think they learned that awhile ago.

[rodeodance]

2. I just logged on about 5 minutes ago. good gawd!!

[UALRBSofL]

28. Rodeodance I thought that photo came out in the Enquirer Feb 4th

How did the accusations of it being circulated by the National Enquirer become Clinton's fault?

[rodeodance]

50. everything is Clinton's fault don't cha know. She is quilty by default.

[HeraldSquare212]

3. It goes to the intent in circulating the photo - and if it was circulated by the Clinton campaign,

I doubt their intent was to provide information or provide flattering material about Obama. Instead of spinning, the Clinton campaign should be denying. Apparently, they can't, not on any level - they could at least say, As far as we know... or, nothing like this would ever be sent by our campaign or approved for sending by our campaign...etc. They can't even do that.

[Tennessee Gal]

5. There is nothing wrong with the photo.

Why are the Obama supporters upset?

[HeraldSquare212]

8. That tack is not going to save her from this, only a denial will.

[Tennessee Gal]

17. A denial?

I saw that photo weeks ago and had no problem with it. It has been around.

[Hobarticus]

18. Denial of WHAT? Fer crissakes, it's DRUDGE!

If he told me the sun was going to go down today, I'd wait and see for myself.

Why so eager to believe that turd?

[HeraldSquare212]

21. The press is already noting the non-denial:

and they're taking the non-denial as a possible confirmation of Drudge. Any idiot would know that that is what would happen. The Clinton camp has given this story major legs.

from TPM:


Put it all together and the Clinton camp would appear to be unwilling to make even the most perfunctory denial that they are or were circulating this photo around.

We held up on this because we never want to take Drudge as a fact witness for anything. But I think the Clinton camp's statement speaks for itself.

[BlackVelvet04]

27. No Obama gave it legs with his accusations....

all he did was make himself look like he's ashamed of the photo and using it to attack Hillary.

[HeraldSquare212]

31. No, he responded forcefully to an attempted smear - good for him.

[emilyg]

49. ****

[Hobarticus]

33. False. Obama's camp drew attention to it, first...

And thus called HRC's campaign out on it. Look at the timeline.

Come on. Don't fall for this shit. The timing doesn't even make sense, it's still Democratic primary season.

[HeraldSquare212]

37. Timing doesn't make sense? With a do-or-die primary in Ohio in a week?

[Hobarticus]

52. Frankly, no it doesn't...

This is still the primary season. This appeals DIRECTLY to GOP-esque bigotry and paranoid reactionary minds.

Do you know a single Dem that would be swayed by this? Do you know a single independently-minded GOPer who may vote BHO in the primary, who'd be swayed by seeing him dressed like this?

Now, take the inverse....do you know a single Dem that would be swayed the opposite effect, by this? Thus, changing their vote from HRC to BHO, because she supposedly did this because Drudge says so? It's a reverse hit-piece, and the HRC campaign can't prove a negative.

Hell, me, you, and my dog would turn tail from her on this. And that's why I'm so skeptical. It just TOO ham-fisted to be credible.

I'm going to vote for the nom, period. Either way makes no difference to me, so I have no dog in this fight. Hate HRC if you must - I know that she may deserve a lot of scorn- but not for this. It just doesn't make sense, to me.

[BlackVelvet04]

23. No campaign denies every crackpot accusation....

as evidenced by Obama's lack of response to Larry Sinclair. Not responding was proved to be the right choice since Sinclair is discredited. Drudge is about as credible as Larry Sinclair.

[HeraldSquare212]

30. It's in the press now - they're feeding it by not denying it.

The press is taking their non-denial as somewhat of a confirmation. The Clinton folks are pros, they know the consequences of issuing a non-denial and they still did it.

[SIMPLYB1980]

53. LMAO!

Must be hot in that suit.

[stahbrett]

4. It's not Kenyan garb - it's Somali garb (eom)

[BlackVelvet04]

24. I stand corrected....

sorry. I haven't been awake long.

[griffi94]

6. wow

obamas supporters sure have thin skin. is there any proof that it's hillarys campaign that circulated this. or is this just more indignant outrage because hillary dares to run against obama.
i can't wait to see the howls of protest when the repub slime machine starts up. i'm expecting at least half of obama nation to come down with the vapors.

[LostinVA]

7. The proof is that Drudge said it's Clinton's campaign

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

9. And Drudge is our friend.

Can you believe it?

Well, yeah, I know that, anymore, it's not unbelievable.

Sheesh.

[Cameron27]

10. Why does Obama accept

the word of RW thugs like Robert Novak and Matt Drudge?

[Hobarticus]

11. Because today, it helps him to...

This is so transparent. I can't believe people here are falling for this.

[SammyWinstonJack]

15. I can believe it and for the reason you stated, because today it helps him.

[Cameron27]

16. I don't know why people fall for half the

crap that Obama puts out, but this thing is really whipping them up. That couldn't have been his intention though, right?:puke:

[SammyWinstonJack]

29. Not at all.

That couldn't have been his intention though, right? :evilgrin:

I don't fall for any of the crap Obama puts out.

[Cameron27]

41. I'm going to repeat what I said

in another post. Obama should have embraced that photo, and the culture that that garment represents. His attempts to distance himself from the muslim rumors are beginning to look like insults to that community.

[griffi94]

12. right drudge

i thought he was part of the right wing echo chamber, oh yeah that's right he is. so now obama nation is taking drudge at his word huh? figures, i've said all along that the obama supporters remind me of bushbots. same tactics, same language even. guess i'll be voting 3rd party in november.

[washingdem]

13. If it is not meant as an attack...

then tell me why the Clinton campaign would want to circulate it.

[cottonseed]

14. I'm ready for tomorrow's debate.

I think both sides will now have to discuss their behavior.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

19. distracting from the real issues-Obama has won 25 contests, Hillary 11

Obama has won 25 contests, Hillary 11.

She supported NAFTA and now wants to disown it.

The rest of this stuff is distraction meant to keep people from thinking
about how badly the Clinton campaign is sinking.

[Occam Bandage]

20. Okay. Why is Clinton circulating it?

[BlackVelvet04]

32. We don't know that Clinton is.....

of course you guys believe whatever Drudge puts out unless it's against Obama then you admit he's a rightwing hack...who, by the way, hates Hillary.

[Occam Bandage]

36. Yes, we do. She issued a statement on it that conspicuously lacked a denial.

[BlackVelvet04]

43. That doesn't mean anything. n/t

[Occam Bandage]

46. ...

[cali]

22. Obvious as it is, you don't get it. First of all, let me say

that I've never claimed that Obama's background was either a positive or negative, and the problem isn't the photo, it's the intent behind the photo- trying to push the line that somehow Obama isn't really an American, that he's foreign and thus suspect, or that he's actually a stealth Muslim. That in a nutshell, is the problem.

[kennetha]

35. Wow!

Do you actually think any democratic voter is vulnerable to that kind of crap? Do you think the Clinton campaign is that stupid? Why do you have such a low opinion of the voters?

[BlackVelvet04]

38. We have no proof that the Hillary campaign had anything to do with

it. Do you think this wouldn't have come out later if not now? You guys need to grow up or go home. This is NOTHING compared to what's to come if he is the nominee. Get used to it.

And IF and I say IF the Hillary Campaign had something to do with it it's no worse than his health care flier. This is a photo that obama knew was out there..it's not photoshopped it's real. Them's the facts and you guys are going to have to deal with it sooner rather than later.

[Occam Bandage]

40. So if they had nothing to do with it, why didn't they deny the charges in their statement?

[BlackVelvet04]

42. Why didn't Obama deny Larry Sinclair's accusations? n/t

[Occam Bandage]

45. He didn't address Sinclair either way. Clinton addressed the Drudge story, but did not deny it.

Rather, she defended her actions.

[BlackVelvet04]

54. No she didn't. n/t

[cali]

44. Of course it's worse. And don't forget Hillary's lying

fliers on his abortion record and her lying about his healthcare plan to the point where the union board that endorsed her, called her on it. anyway, it doesn't matter. you're the one that'll be going home soon. she's done. over. kaput. and Obama handles this stuff with aplomb. he'll keep on handling it that way- whether it's from dear Hillary or the rethugs. same difference.

[elixir]

25. Only when it's convenient for the Obama supporteres

:yoiks:

[robbedvoter]

26. He is only black before SC, otherwise - colorless. Mess with that - you're a racist!

Kinda like W's "we're safer now, but not quite safe yet"

[Hawkeye-X]

34. Father is a Christian of his Christian tribe.

So the information you have is wrong, and it's time to stop beating a dead horse.

[BlackVelvet04]

39. Snopes says his father was a Muslim. n/t

[Occam Bandage]

47. His father was an atheist/agnostic at the time he met Obama's mother.

[judaspriestess]

48. it seems many people live in glass houses

and when rocks start getting thrown at it, its going to break into a million pieces.

hypocrisy at its finest.

[Labors of Hercules]

51. I would love to see him in Kenyan Garb! Got a photo??? nt.