I Don't Get The Obama Photo

[DemocratSinceBirth]

What is a person of average intelligence supposed to infer from it other than he put traditional African garb over his western attire?

[Bread and Circus]

1. I know, why did the Clinton campaign circulate it? What were they trying to get at?

[jlake]

3. Proof that they did circulate it?

I mean... is Drudge now a reliable source for Obamabots?

[Occam Bandage]

8. If she didn't circulate it, why did her statement on the matter not include a denial?

[jlake]

14. I think you read too much into things...

[Occam Bandage]

25. And I think you avert your eyes from your candidate's actions.

[jlake]

31. No, that would be Obamanation. McClurkin, NAFTA lies, Anti Universal Healthcare, Pro Ronald Reagan

Anti Bill Clinton, Questionable ethics, continued distortions and lies tipped me off.
Hillary is not perfect, but she is not a con artist.

[Occam Bandage]

34. Cleanup on Aisle 5. Another one burst.

[Yael]

35. You may dislike Drudge, but rest assured -- he wouldn't make the claim

if he couldn't back it up.

[Metric System]

45. Oh really?!? The same Sludge who claimed Kerry & Edwards had women on the side? Bullshit.

[Yael]

49. He wouldn't say that it came from inside Clinton's camp unless he could back that up

Not talking about him making shit up -- talking about the claim of the source.

[northzax]

48. must be one of the people across the aisle

that the Obama people think he will work with. After all, many of them hate Hillary, (some admit it straight up, notice I didn't even say 'most' hate hillary, I said 'many') and Drudge hates Hillary.

the enemy of my enemy, and all that.

[Yael]

Spaghetti on the wall

They are throwing it to see what sticks.

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. The Obama supporters are embarassed about it.

[jefferson_dem]

6. The Hillary supporters should be embarassed by their candidate.

[GreenPartyVoter]

7. Why should they be?

[ginantonic40]

I don't know

if Obama's supporters are embarassed. As far as any kind of comment on Barack's candidacy it's meaningless. But if I were Barack I would personally be a little embarassed. It's a goofy lookin' photo.

[arewenotdemo]

28. Keep trying. Repetition is key.

[Yael]

37. I am not embarassed -- I think it is a cool photo

[Whisp]

4. I have yet to see the pic. Is it posted here anywhere? nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. It's A Silly Photo As In Silly To Make Something Out Of It

You can clearly see his western attire under the traditional African garb...

[GreenPartyVoter]

5. I haven't even seen the photo, but I can already tell how stupid this whole

hullaballoo is. Are people not allowed to acknowledge their family's history, or what?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. We're not talking about persons of average intelligence.

[BootinUp]

10. Its sacrilegious maybe?

[MadBadger]

11. They dont see African...they see Muslim.

[Colobo]

12. Hillay circulated it because she likes Obama wants to show him in a good light..

Right?

[Big Blue Marble]

22. I hadn't thought of it that way.

But you know that makes really good sense.

:sarcasm:

She really was just thinking of him after all.

[arewenotdemo]

33. She LOVES her some Obama.

Just can't have him, that's all.

[Renew Deal]

13. I don't get it either.

I think the picture on it's own is fine. What makes it controversial is that Hillary's campaign is fear mongering.

[Sulawesi]

15. Yeah I can't figure that out, what could be going on?

hmmm...such a puzzle.

[babylonsister]

16. Then you haven't been paying attention. IF there was nothing to it,

why is the Clinton camp circulating it via Drudge, their new best friend? IT's that ole 'he's a Muslim' slime they've attempted before, be very afraid. It didn't work then, I hope it doesn't work now. It's dirty pool politics, and they're the best at it! :thumbsup:

[goodgd_yall]

55. Until there are more facts about how and to whom

the circulation came about how can you make the statement you did about the Clinton camp "circulating it via Drudge"?

[stellanoir]

17. Someone posted earlier that the General Obama traveled with in Africa

made a statement that Obama accepted a gift from the Somali elders. (paraphrased) Any world leader would be foolish to not acknowledge the gift and show their appreciation by temporarily donning the garment.

Bigotry is just so sad and SO last millennial.

[babylonsister]

29. Here's a link to that...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=108x126308

[stellanoir]

41. Thanks dear

I'm "linkally" challenged.

You clearly are not.

:hi:

[SammyWinstonJack]

19. I don't get it either.

:shrug: I really don't.

[RandomKoolzip]

20. The "Obama is a secret Muslim" rumor/smear has been rampant in RW circles

and racist circles (okay, same thing) for a while now - a picture like this will be more fuel for that fire.

[samdogmom]

21. Please...you were supposed to check your brain at the door! What went wrong????

Exactly! You have hit the nail on the head. Is this photo any different from the ridiculous one of dubya with the new "pin/sash" he "won" in Africa (and the photo shows him examining the pin--I'm trying to find a link right now!)--or him dancing lamely in Africa? Come on!

[arewenotdemo]

39. lol

[Faygo Kid]

23. Good God, deny disseminating it, but cut this kind of disingenuous crap

Take whatever stance you want as to whether the Hillary campaign did or did not disseminate it, but these threads and responses saying "what, a nice photo of him in Muslim garb? What's the problem?" are some of the most revolting insults yet to be posted here, and that's saying a lot.

[malcolmlandry]

32. We ain't seen nothing yet.

The Clinton machine will do anything to win. The problem is, she is the only one Mccain could defeat.

[melody]

24. All I got was he sort of looks like the Dutch Boy on the paint can

To my untutored, ignorant American agnostic eye.

I've no idea what whomever released it thought they'd gain by it.

My sister pointed out this to me this morning:



All leaders do that sort of thing ... it's just what is done.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. I Know What The Photo Is Supposed To But It Looks Like Her And Chelseas Were Extras In The Movie

"Witness"...

[melody]

38. More like "Not Without My Daughter", but I get the drift n/t

[Colobo]

26. DSB- Hillary leaked it because she think Obama looks cute on that outfit, right?

[MonkeyFunk]

47. How does Clinton "leak" a photo

that's already been out there?

[JackORoses]

27. It is aimed at people of below average intelligence. They are Hillary's base.

I find your feigned confusion dishonest.

You are smart enough to know exactly what this is about.
I'm surprised to find you defending it.
Going down with the ship?

[MercutioATC]

30. I think you underestimate the ignorance and bigotry of the American people.

What "person of average intelligence" would equate burning the flag with being a terrorist?

What "person of average intelligence" would equate Iraq War protests with disrespecting the troops?

What "person of average intelligence" sees unemployment up, wages down, watches their own financial state decline and syas "The economy is strong"?

What "person of average intelligence", when presented with the fact that we have one of the lowest life expectancies and one of the highest infant mortality rates in the industrial world still believes that we have the best healthcare in the world?

What "person of average intelligence" believes that warrantless wiretaps are fine because they "haven't done anything wrong"?

...I could go on.


Answer: The average American.

[merh]

40. check your pmail

you will get an idea as to how they are spinning it.

:hi:

[dancingme]

42. Bill Clinton wore African garb

when he visited Africa.

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/africa/08/27/clinton.africa.01.ap/index.html

[ElsewheresDaughter]

43. because it is what the article says and how the RW is going to use it to swift-boat him.....

I was just on another discussion board and found this....it pretty bad out there and the swift-boaters haven't even begun to play hard yet.

It's disgusting

[babylonsister]

44. Yea, the GOP is really going to miss Clinton:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=108x126309

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

46. The Obama Fanatics Don't Care. They're So Filled With Hate They Surge Out With It Any Opportunity

they get. This isn't about a photo. It is about their immature and almost obsessive hatred towards someone, and their knee jerk tendency to spew their irrational hatred at every possible opening they get. That's all this is about.

[LeftCoast]

50. Why is Obama embarassed by this photo and why do his supporters jump to Drudge's beat?

You guys are so ready to hate Hillary that you'll believe absolutely anything that falls into that narrative.

[ProSense]

52. No because everything indicates it's true and Hillary's campaign is in damage control

This latest incident is different in that it comes on the heels of Hillary's campaign and her surrogates promoting Obama's ties to "former members of a radical domestic terrorist group."

Hillary Clinton woos man who nearly ruined her husband

Earlier this month, Ms Clinton's staff leaked campaign fundraising data to the website just as her rival for the nomination, Barack Obama, was to deliver a policy speech on Iraq - and a crucial 20 minutes before the official release of the information. The story on Ms Clinton's fundraising prowess dominated the news cycle.

Mark Penn is in bed with Drudge.

Obama's campaign would not connect Hillary to the latest attack story without validation.

It has happened before and Axelrod denounced the attempts to link Hillary's campaign to an attack:

The article further reported that Obama strategist David Axelrod said he did not "believe ... for a second" the allegation that Clinton's camp was behind the story.

Here's Wolfson's denying involvement and agreeing in part with Drudge:

On a conference call with reporters just now, Hillary spokesperson Howard Wolfson strongly denied any role in pushing the photo of Obama in a turban and Somali garb.

Drudge reported this morning that Clinton staffers had "circulated" the photo. He didn't say who circulated it, what level of Clinton staffer had circulated it, or to whom it had been circulated. Nonetheless, the media has been all over the story today.

Asked if the campaign had any role, Wolfson said, "No, not to my knowledge...I've never seen that picture before. I'm not aware that anyone else here has. I'm not aware that anyone here has circulated this e-mail."

Wolfson did say, however, that the campaign agreed with part of the message in the email -- that if the same photo had appeared of Hillary, it would have been a big story: "It is a common view among this campaign and our supporters that there is a difference in how the media covers our campaign and how it covers Senator Obama."

link

Damage control.




edited error in title

[ProSense]

51. CNN did a poll asking if Obama was patriotic enough because of a lapel pin. Kerry

is a decorated war hero (still is) that they spent 2004 labeling weak and a traitor.

"What is a person of average intelligence"? Are you really surprised?

[goodgd_yall]

53. Operative word "circulate"

Circulate to whom---another Clinton staffer? Isn't that what the "circulation" claim is all about. A Clinton staffer was making a point about the perceived media bias against Clinton. The photo was to make that point. "This would be all over the front pages if it was HRC" or words to that effect accompanied the photo. Even the Drudge report makes this clear.

I would have to agree that the "playing dirty" charge is on the Obama camp side this time. Everybody just needs to own up that distortion of fact is the game of politics and Obama is as ready to use it as Clinton.

[BenDavid]

54. I believe it is to place in the minds of folks the following

picture found on America's Most Wanted web site: scroll till you see Bin Laden at terrorist camp...

To attack HRC for this picture is a wrong......it was by drudge as I know, and we know drudge has no love for either clinton and would be easy to say it came from the clinton camp....nor do I think obama is some kind of closet Muslim or Islamic sympathizer is absurd.

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/video_photos.cfm?id=24550