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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:17 PM
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If Clinton were responsible, I'd stop supporting her. I haven't seen evidence to suggest she is.
Have you?

Or are you throwing mud just to throw mud?

Who said she's responsible? Right wingers?

Great. Reliable sources.

:eyes:
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:18 PM
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1. Help me here - what is wrong with the photo? n/t
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:19 PM
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3. Nothing. But the photo was posted to play into the fears of stupid Americans.
And their clear phobia of muslims.

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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:21 PM
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It sure played into the fears of some stupid Americans at DU. They're inconsolable.
Poor babies. There, there.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:21 PM
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13. Is that Muslim attire? eom
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:24 PM
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19. You think six pack joes know the difference?
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:28 PM
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25. Shouldn't they learn and isn't this an opportunity for same? eom
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:33 PM
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30. Shouldn't they learn? Yes. Will they learn? No.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:34 PM
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31. Why hold back information or a learning experience? eom
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 01:37 PM by DURHAM D
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:18 PM
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2. Maggie Williams, from the Clinton camp, just attacked Obama over this.
Implying him of being Islamophobic.

What more evidence do you want?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:19 PM
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4. Did she say her campaign was responsible? n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:21 PM
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8. Did she confess? No.
But she's milking it for all it's worth, and using it as a slur again, so...
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:21 PM
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14. No, she never answered that question
That's what's troubling for me.
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:21 PM
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9. I'm also
starting to wonder if the immense anger displayed over the Karl Rove's dirty tricks during the Bush years was really anger or jealousy.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:22 PM
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15. Liar. n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:24 PM
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18. Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:28 PM
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24. Your link is not supportive of your lie. eom
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:28 PM
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26. Sure it is.
Williams is implying that Obama is an Islamophobe. Why else should he be "ashamed" of himself?
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:31 PM
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28. "Still off your meds and out of therapy" ?
to quote Richard Armitage.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:32 PM
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29. Like I said.
denial is not just a river in Egypt.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:36 PM
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32. A twenty year old joke is so damn clever.
Get help before you implode.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:19 PM
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5. After the attempted 'radical' smear last week, it's not hard to see them doing this, too
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wheresthemind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:20 PM
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6. The lack of a denial and the attribution from Drudge and other sources
If it wasn't them don't you think they would have said so fairly quickly?
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:20 PM
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7. DUPE thread. Are we up to 20 yet?
I stopped counting prior to 12:00 today. Here are at least 12 of the same threads, meant
to distract from Clinton's huge losing streak, campaign finances, and meltdowns.

Absolutely NO PROOF anyone from Clinton camp connected in anyway to 'the photo' Mon Feb-25-08 11:02 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4758267&mesg_id=4758267

There's NO proof the Clinton campaign approved of the Drudge pic. So, he's a legitimate source now?? Mon Feb-25-08 11:18 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758517

*WHY* is it a "smear photo"? Mon Feb-25-08 11:30 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4758733&mesg_id=4758733

To address the recent Drudge photo...Mon Feb-25-08 11:49 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4759060

Hillary doesn't mind pictures of her in traditional clothing being published. Why is Obama so upset? Mon Feb-25-08 11:26 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758646

RETHUGS sent the Photo! Mon Feb-25-08 11:57 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4759207&mesg_id=4759207

rebuttal

Politico: Obama slams smear photo Mon Feb-25-08 10:11 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4757652&mesg_id=4757652

The Clinton goes ON RECORD re: PHOTO SMEAR and DOES NOT DENY, just change subject Mon Feb-25-08 11:18 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4758523&mesg_id=4758523

in addition to being a low political move, distributing that photo would be an offense to muslims Mon Feb-25-08 11:37 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758867

Hillary's use of Islamophobia against Obama, will hurt our Democratic candidate for Congress Mon Feb-25-08 11:21 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758564

As long as Clinton supporters can blame Drudge the HRC camp will never be called on race baiting Mon Feb-25-08 10:10 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4757636&mesg_id=4757636

Why is there so much spectulation as to where the photo came from? Mon Feb-25-08 11:41 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758939

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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:21 PM
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10. I agree! Why should we be put into meltdown mode over something reported by Matt Dudge?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:21 PM
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11. "the Clinton camp's statement speaks for itself"
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/179989.php

We spent the better part of the morning trying to get some comment from the Clinton campaign. For the first hour or more we couldn't get anything. Then we got this statement in which the Clinton camp says Obama should be "ashamed" at saying the picture is "divisive," without addressing one way or another what they're accused of doing.

Here's the text ...


Enough.

If Barack Obama's campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed. Hillary Clinton has worn the traditional clothing of countries she has visited and had those photos published widely.

This is nothing more than an obvious and transparent attempt to distract from the serious issues confronting our country today and to attempt to create the very divisions they claim to decry.

We will not be distracted.


Put it all together and the Clinton camp would appear to be unwilling to make even the most perfunctory denial that they are or were circulating this photo around.

We held up on this because we never want to take Drudge as a fact witness for anything. But I think the Clinton camp's statement speaks for itself.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:21 PM
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12. Since when did the flock need evidence?
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:22 PM
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16. Drudge says he got it from her campaign.
She should either deny it or vow to fire anyone who was responsible. The defensive non-denial/attack on Obama by Maggie Williams is very telling to me.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:23 PM
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17. "Drudge says"....Enough said.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:25 PM
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22. Why is that hard to believe? Here is something else Drudge got from her campaign:
Hillary Clinton woos man who nearly ruined her husband

Earlier this month, Ms Clinton's staff leaked campaign fundraising data to the website just as her rival for the nomination, Barack Obama, was to deliver a policy speech on Iraq - and a crucial 20 minutes before the official release of the information. The story on Ms Clinton's fundraising prowess dominated the news cycle.


Mark Penn is in bed with Drudge.

Obama's campaign would not connect Hillary to the story without validation.

It has happened before and Axelrod denounced the attempts to link Hillary's campaign to an attack:

The article further reported that Obama strategist David Axelrod said he did not "believe ... for a second" the allegation that Clinton's camp was behind the story.


This latest incident is different in that it comes on the heels of Hillary's campaign and her surrogates promoting Obama's ties to "former members of a radical domestic terrorist group."


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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:27 PM
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23. They should sue him for libel then. nt
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:25 PM
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20. It was in the National Enquirer (3 million readers) weeks ago. Why blame Clinton??
It doesn't make any sense.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:25 PM
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21. She's not responsbile....
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:30 PM
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27. I don't think she is either. I'm merely trying to get DUers to provide evidence. Put up or shut up.
Wheres the beef in these attacks on Hillary?

I've seen no evidence she's responsible.
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