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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:00 PM
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Forget the photo: Newsweek says Clinton should quit the race
Hillary Should Get Out Now

Clinton has only one shot—for Obama to trip up so badly that he disqualifies himself.

Mar 3, 2008 Issue

If Hillary Clinton wanted a graceful exit, she'd drop out now—before the March 4 Texas and Ohio primaries—and endorse Barack Obama. This would be terrible for people like me who have been dreaming of a brokered convention for decades. For selfish reasons, I want the story to stay compelling for as long as possible, which means I'm hoping for a battle into June for every last delegate and a bloody floor fight in late August in Denver. But to withdraw this week would be the best thing imaginable for Hillary's political career. She won't, of course, and for reasons that help explain why she's in so much trouble in the first place.

Withdrawing would be stupid if Hillary had a reasonable chance to win the nomination, but she doesn't. To win, she would have to do more than reverse the tide in Texas and Ohio, where polls show Obama already even or closing fast. She would have to hold off his surge, then establish her own powerful momentum within three or four days. Without a victory of 20 points or more in both states, the delegate math is forbidding. In Pennsylvania, which votes on April 22, the Clinton campaign did not even file full delegate slates. That's how sure they were of putting Obama away on Super Tuesday.

The much-ballyhooed race for superdelegates is now nearly irrelevant. Some will be needed in Denver to put Obama over the top, just as Walter Mondale had to round up a couple dozen in 1984. But these party leaders won't determine the result. At the Austin, Texas, debate last week, Hillary agreed that the process would "sort itself out" so that the will of the people would not be reversed by superdelegates. Obama has a commanding 159 lead in pledged delegates and a lead of 925,000 in the popular vote (excluding Michigan and Florida, where neither campaigned). Closing that gap would require Hillary to win all the remaining contests by crushing margins. Any takers on her chances of doing so in, say, Mississippi and North Carolina, where African-Americans play a big role?

The pundit class hasn't been quicker to point all this out because of what happened in New Hampshire. A lot of us looked foolish by all but writing Hillary off when she lost the Iowa caucuses. As we should have known, stuff happens in politics. But that was early. The stuff that would have to happen now would be on a different order of magnitude. It's time to stop overlearning the lesson of New Hampshire.

Hillary has only one shot—for Obama to trip up so badly that he disqualifies himself. Nothing in the last 14 months suggests he will. He has made plenty of small mistakes, but we're past the point where a "likable enough" comment will turn the tide. When Obama bragged in the Austin debate about how "good" his speeches were, the boast barely registered. He has brought up his game so sharply that even a head cold and losing the health-care portion of the debate on points did nothing to derail him. Hillary's Hail Mary pass—that Obama is a plagiarist—was incomplete.

So if the Clintonites were assessing with a cold eye, they would know that the odds of Hillary's looking bad on March 4 are high. Even Bill Clinton said last week that Texas and Ohio are must-win states. If she wants to stay in anyway, one way to go is to play through to June so as to give as many people as possible a chance to express their support. While this would be contrary to the long-stated wish of many Democrats (including the Clintons) to avoid a long, divisive primary season, it's perfectly defensible.


More here-
http://www.newsweek.com/id/114725
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:02 PM
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1. correction
Newspeak
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:17 PM
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6. that's a funny switch up on the name. Very clever. So what do you think of the article?
Do you agree that the math makes a Hill win all but impossible?

Do you agree that the only thing that would pull this out for Clinton is a major massive flub by Obama?

Do you agree that barring a miracle, Hill's staying in the race will humiliate her and make her less than viable in the future?


As a supporter, what would you recommend Hillary do?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:17 PM
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7. New speak
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:29 PM
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14. That's redundant. I'm now hoping Hill stays in to the end. It will get rid of her once and forever.
i've changed my mind.

I used to look at the math and think she should drop out fot the good of the party.

Now I think she should stay in for the good of the party.

We won't have to consider Hill for any future national races after this, and she won't be seen as fit for President of the Senate or for the Supreme Court

It will be a slow motion Greek tragedy, the complete fall, humiliation and repudiation of Hill, the DNC and of the consultant class top down school of campaigning.

It will be much better for the party in the long run.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:02 PM
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2. *cough* Graceful *cough* *cough* Exit *cough* now
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:08 PM
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3. way too late for a graceful exit.
I want to see rotten tomatoes thrown at her as she leaves the stage.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:18 PM
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8. Hell yeah.
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:08 PM
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4. Yeah, Clinton should do what the media tells her! n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:10 PM
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5. Hillary only listens to Mark Penn, a former college Republican
and whose firm has handled Blackwater and has ties to the McCain campaign, but then, Hillary was a Goldwater girl.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:18 PM
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9. "a former college Republican" Birds of a feather flock together.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:19 PM
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10. Do you suggest Hill stay in and further humiliate herself to the point of future non-viability?
As a supporter, what do you think she should do?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:20 PM
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11. Her "graceful exit" ship has already sailed.
She has chosen instead to risk becoming a pariah to the party.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:21 PM
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12. I'm for Obama. But only one person gets to decide when Clinton *should* drop out
I'm not surprised by yet another Hillary hit peice by Alter. It's getting tiresome and taking all the fun out of my candidate's victory.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:27 PM
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13. Has the Mainstream U.S. press EVER been right about ANYTHING?
The answer is no. The press always has an opinion and always puts it forward, and ignores the fact that they are usually proven dead wrong in all their presumprions and assumptions.

Dewey Defeats Truman.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:33 PM
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15. and we care what this msm mag says why?
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:44 PM
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16. K & R
:thumbsup:
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:46 PM
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17. Oh, well if Newsweek says it then I guess it's practically LAW. n/t
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:04 PM
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18. Newsweek
He spends the whole article saying she should drop out, then concludes by saying that a decision to stay in unti June is "perfectly defensible." Huh?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:13 PM
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19. And her campaign didn't prepare to contest the caucuses here in Texas.
But the Obama campaign has been actively organizing to dance the Texas Two-Step.

It's not a matter of maintaining momentum until the convention. It needs to be maintained into November.

And it needs to be maintained past January, to put grassroots pressure on ALL of the Washington pols.
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