Here's what really offended me about Hillary's rants this weekend

[Hugabear]

Not so much the "Shame on you Obama" over the NAFTA stuff. That's politics, blah blah blah.

It was her outright mocking of Obama's speeches that really irritated me to no end. How DARE a candidate come along offering a vision of hope and change? The way she came across, it just sounded childish and condescending as hell.

[LisaM]

1. Really? I thought it was funny.

But I am not sure that Obama supporters have much of a sense of humor about their candidate.

The SNL skit on Saturday was the first I've seen of any doing an Obama impression, and it was quite funny, I thought.

[PITBOS]

28. I thought SNL skits were good and Fey's

take on HRC is a B and B's get things done was great.

However, I do like Barack and try and stay neutral on HRC. But after her performance this w/e – her and Bill have proven over and over they will try and win at all costs up to and including attempting to stoke racial tensions and divide the country by race. I now abhor her.

[paulk]

52. "stoke racial tensions"

I'm getting really tired of the Obama camp playing the generic race card. That may work for you in the primary - it won't work in the GE.

ps - if you're really in the Obama camp, that is. It's getting hard to tell anymore with this huge influx of new posters whose only purpose seems to be trashing Hillary Clinton. Perhaps you could explain how exactly you see the Clintons "dividing the country by race"? And what do you mean by "win at all costs"? What does that mean in a political context? Did she say something to that hurt Obama's chances to win the nomination? Isn't that sort of the point to running for President?

[durrrty libby]

2. The Obama cult was also mocked on SNL.

Did that "offend" you?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. SNL employs professional comedians.

I agree that it's fun to laugh at Hillary Clinton, but that's not really the same.

[TheDonkey]

10. So you think it is ok if Hillary's campaign has devolved into Mad TV?

it's looking like that

[CreekDog]

25. Yes

Except not funny. :eyes:

[Hugabear]

33. I expect this from comedians

Hillary ain't no comedian.

[grantcart]

3. Not only that but it is mocking a certain style of

christian preaching that is common with pentacostals and some evangelicals.

When I saw that I imagined there were a lot of those folks in Texas that were thinking why is she making fun of us in Rhode Island and thought just decided to screw it they were going to go in and vote on Monday.

I also wondered if there weren't some enlightened Texans who were sitting there thinking here I am in Texas supporting progressive candidates and here she is making those of us in Texas look like a bunch of dumb pentacostals.

Now I have no idea on who it offends more I just hope that they keep re running it over and over again in Texas right up to the election.

[LisaM]

15. Perhaps some of us don't feel that a certain style of Christian preaching

has a place in a political campaign. You can include me among those who are offended by that style. I absolutely loathe it.

[grantcart]

18. I agree. Mocking voters is however not going to go well with them however.

[LisaM]

20. But it was okay when Obama mocked baby boomers?

Just askin'.......(for the record, he told them to "get over themselves" - even though he IS one!)

[Recursion]

39. Ah, right, so anything remotely critical is mocking

She was full-out mocking and belittling both his speaking style and honestly people who go to pentacostal churches.

Yeah, that's exactly like what Obama did :eyes:

[Recursion]

38. Any particular reason?

Or is it just a 'taste' thing?

[chimpymustgo]

4. Ah, the daily "faux outrage". How can you guys keep food down?

[goldcanyonaz]

5. OMG!!!

:rofl:

[durrrty libby]

11. They don't eat. They get sustenance from the fumes of "Hope"

[TheDonkey]

12. Bitter much?

I know it is hard to be so far behind but have a little dignity.

[jgraz]

16. The only one running on fumes is that pathetic excuse for a Democrat you're supporting

8 more days of this shit...

[CreekDog]

26. fumes are better than vapors

just sayin' :crazy:

[Hugabear]

31. But it was good enough for Hillary's husband, no?

When politicians like JFK and Bill Clinton run with a vision, they're hailed for it.

When an uppity politician like Obama does it, it's vacuous.

Nope, no double standard here!

[11 Bravo]

13. Maalox?

[Cha]

30. Ah the daily snark from chimpymustgo...

and it's really none of your business.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. It's an attempt to disenfranchise voters.

That's the pathetic thing about ti.

[TheDonkey]

8. It was incredibly insulting, incredibly childish, and most importantly UNpresidential

That the sort of dopey stuff I'd expect Bush to slur about.

[kimmerspixelated]

9. Frankly, it was just plain weird!!!!

She seemed to look for something to fight about. It just wasn't a natural evolvement of events.

[yellowcanine]

14. I was more disappointed that Hillary took this road than offended.

In a word, it was cynical. The opposite of hope. And it is why she is losing.

[Hieronymus]

17. Bill Clinton had absolutely NO foreign policy experience when .....

he and Hillary moved into the White House.

[washingdem]

19. Yeah, childish is the word

She looked like a sore loser, only she hasn't lost yet - but she knows what's coming in Texas.

[riverwalker]

21. message of despair

life sucks and then you die- Nice bumper sticker, Hillary.
If hope and change are worthy of ridicule, then she does not believe change is possible. If change is not possible, then what exactly is she offering us as a candidate?
Her mocking of hope and change was more than a subliminal confession that not much would change if she were elected, she made it pretty darn clear.

[Raine]

27. Good summary

I kinda had those thoughts but couldn't put it into words. :thumbsup:

[workinclasszero]

42. Vote for Hillary! She will suck all the joy of life out of you!

Hmm...her message doesn't seem to be resonating with the voters. Wonder why?:shrug:

[Scurrilous]

22. Yes...

...it was childish.

[jmg257]

23. She's SO irate - "Hope? Change? The audacity! How DARE you want anything but me?"

Soon she'll be irrelevant.

[Raine]

24. All that mockery is not going to get her anything

except less support than she already has. x(

[PITBOS]

29. Agreed. she might be trying to motivate her base*

*

[Eurobabe]

32. Her schtick about the "celestial heavens opening" put me over the top

It's official, she is a bitch. PC police say what you will.

[Tennessee Gal]

34. I thought it was representing the very thoughts I have had.

I am not buying the soaring rhetoric as substance.

[Hugabear]

35. "soaring rhetoric"?

So when Martin Luther King Jr. gave his speech about "having a dream", was that just a bunch of bullshit rhetoric? What about JFK and Bill Clinton, were they just full of "soaring rhetoric"?

Do you think that maybe - just maybe - it's possible to translate that "soaring rhetoric" into action once he's in office?

[Tennessee Gal]

37. MLK, JFK and Bill Clinton - your examples - had far more experience.

[Recursion]

41. Er... JFK had about the same experience

(well, not if you count his service in WWII, which you probably should).

MLK had no "experience" whatsoever in politics; he had a PhD in systematic theology and an ordination.

Bill Clinton had significant executive experience, something no candidate in this race (except Mike Huckabee and Bill Richardson) has.

[Hugabear]

44. But Clinton has absolutely no foreign policy experience

n/t

[Recursion]

45. You're right; Obama has significantly more foreign policy experience...

...than Bill Clinton did, and he has a bit more than Hillary Clinton does (I don't personally count FLOTUS goodwill tours; maybe some do).

[angie_love]

36. Honestly, I really cringed when I saw that. I felt embarressed for her.

Its not presidential and it makes her look cranky.

[workinclasszero]

40. Hillary is the Anti-Hope

Official campaign slogan of the Hillary for President campaign:

[niceypoo]

48. Obama is the king of empty rhetoric

and he hasnt given one single iota of evidence to back his 'hope' promises because they are phoney slogans.

[Vinca]

43. Her weekend performance brought every stereotype about a woman

candidate to the surface. She wasn't forceful, she wasn't presidential, she wasn't powerful. She was every man's ex-wife, every kids ranting teacher, every teenage girl's nagging mother. I've gone from being really pissed off to feeling embarrassed for her and for women in general.

[niceypoo]

46. How dare she mock his phoney hollow promises?

Hope and change are two things he or anyother politician cannot deliver and he gives no specifics on doing either. I agree with her 100% on this one because Obama hasnt given one iota of details on either thus he has 'offered' nothing but slogans.

[C_U_L8R]

47. Fortunately we won't have to suffer this much longer

The Clinton campaign has so destroyed itself by succumbing to all their worst instincts.
Totally offensive slime ball innuendo and triangulating bullcrap.
I'd be surprised if they even make it until Tuesday.

[Marrah_G]

49. I have to say- she made me giggle- I rarely giggle at the news

I was poking fun at my own self when I was giggling. I was the one waiting for the skies to open!

I felt just like she was describing when Gov Patrick was running. Miracles would happen, the state would become a utopia, anything was possible ....TOGETHER WE CAN!! WOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!

The after the landslide election (I bawled my eyes out when he won) reality set in....there were no angels singing...there were no miracles... there were really very few changes at all. The reality is that in MA the Gov doesn't have much power to implement those changes we had all envisioned.

It was a devastating thing to realize.

Pretty words about hope and change and yes we can..... I no longer fall for those words. I realize now they have little meaning without the ability to make them a reality. I don't think Obama can and I won't be fooled again.

[paulk]

50. I thought she totally nailed his campaign

Candidates come along offering "hope and change" every four years.

She would like this campaign to have some substance - some real discussion about issues instead of buzz words like, well - "hope and change" - which mean different things to different people. "Change" to a Republican - what does that mean, exactly? Even fewer taxes on the wealthy? War in four countries instead of two? What does a Republican "hope" for? And we're all supposed to be excited that so many Republicans are voting for Obama...

Generalities don't work for me. I want to know what Obama plans. I want a real debate on issues. And I don't blame Hillary in the least for trying to steer things in that direction.

[polichick]

51. It made her look insecure and desperate...

Mockers always look that way ~ except to others who are insecure and desperate to take someone down who threatens them. Think junior high.

[Muzza]

53. I thought it was very effective. And resonated with those who don't buy the fantasy mantra!

[Hugabear]

55. I'm sorry if you feel that it's just pure "fantasy mantra"

n/t

[Hepburn]

54. At this point....

...I am totally disgusted with her. She is NOT presidential material and is merely at this point in time a very desperate and nasty person.

What I am seeing in her frightens me. What if there was an international crisis and she started with some BS like finger pointing and some personal attack on some nutcake foreign dictator???

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