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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 07:57 AM
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Tubbs-Jones,: "I have no problem with Barack Obama putting on the clothes of his native country."
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 07:59 AM by Skidmore
Just now on Morning Joe. Ms. Tubbs-Jones, Obama's native country is the United States of America, not Somalia. So much for clearing that issue up.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 07:58 AM
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1. Sssshhhhh.
You'll mess up the Clinton and subsequent Republican strategy.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 07:58 AM
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2. I think she was trying to be supportive, but she mangled her words a bit
She's not a baddie.
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seagulldem Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:02 AM
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7. Why didn't they call her on that?
I couldn't believe I heard that. Why didn't they call her on that and correct her?
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:05 AM
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12. MSM never corrects assinine comments
It doesn't matter who the comments are coming from. They just sit back and wait for surrogates from other camps to correct the record. Then it looks like fighting/tit-for-tat type stuff that they eat up in the next day's news cycle, or later that day if they're short on cheap meat cuts to chew on.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:02 AM
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8. thanks.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:04 AM
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10. No she is clearly a baddie
She was awful.She proved it with her own mouth,
Her sly inferences and feeble attempts to position Obama
as something he's not made me totally write her off.
That's not what I consider a good person.

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:09 AM
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16. She's a forceful advocate for Hillary
but she also said, in so many words, which no one else is talking about here, that she hopes the country will be fair to Barack about his background if he's the nominee.

I liked that.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:14 AM
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19. Well from reading this thread, it doesn't sound like *she* was fair to him.
If she hopes the country will be fair to him, she could have started with herself, no?
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:16 AM
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20. I hear ya but i still don't like their message
Imagine I said we should all be nice to Hilary because she's a woman.
See the subtle diminutive (and totally sexist) inferences it conveys?
That's the game Clinton's playing and it's more insidious than their triangulation bullshit.
It's thinly veiled racism. And it's wrong.


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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 AM
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38. I think she knew exactly what she was doing. She smiled and smiled
when a person could not name Obama's MANY accomplishments. To take delight in something that is obviously false, really says something about an individual.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:00 AM
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3. If that were his native country, he couldn't run for president.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:50 AM
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35. Excellent point n/t
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 AM
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40. Yeah, it is in the Constitution. But then the Clinton supporters always
say Clinton didn't vote for war when in the Constitution clearly states that only Congress has the power to authorize war.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:00 AM
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4. I just heard that and I'm appalled! She said "his country" twice. NT
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:00 AM
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5. I saw that
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 08:51 AM by Patsy Stone
and I tried to correct her by screaming at the TV, but she didn't hear me.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:01 AM
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6. his father's homeland would be appropo, And most know that.
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 08:05 AM by rodeodance
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:06 AM
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13. so you support spreading false information or are you truly that
ignorant? Obama was born in Hawaii, dear. The U.S. is his native country. Perhaps you're one of those people who scorns anyone whose family didn't come over on the Mayflower. I hate to break this to you, but Obama is every bit as much of an American as Hillary Clinton or YOU.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:19 AM
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22. I have that one on ignore.
I'm sure what ever they said, was filled with hateful slime. Better to just alert them and ignore them. :(
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:21 AM
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24. I do not need a lecture from you I know that sweetie. Tubbs-Jones mangled
her words at best.

INtellegent people know that.

Email or Call the station.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:38 AM
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28. YOU are the one that endorsed her error
dear heart. And I don't think Tubbs-Jones did it on purpose. She simply fucked up. You have a habit of endorsing anything that bashes Obama. Anything.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:42 AM
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31. "his father's homeland would be appropo, And most know that" CAN you
read.

I did not 'endorse" what she said.




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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:03 AM
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9. insert "ancestral"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:04 AM
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11. Somalia isn't Kenya, anyway.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:18 AM
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21. It WAS Kenya, not Somalia.
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 08:19 AM by TexasObserver
Are you saying the same thing I'm saying - that the Somalia theme is part of the problem here? He was in Kenya, not Somalia.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:08 AM
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14. I heard that. I thought his native country was the US
Maybe running around in suits is not normal for Obama? Oh well I guess people will say and do any thing to get into the WH. Poor man I feel for him really. He is going to get it from all sides now. I like him and hate to see this happen. So far he has kept his cool and has had such class.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:08 AM
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15. I saw that too and I was a bit taken aback as well.
Ms. Tubbs-Jones is an excellent communicator- she's bright, well spoken and I've been a fan for a while now so the fact that she said it not only once, but twice, seems odd. Is this a tactic- showing America that he's not really an American or hinting that he's less American then Hillary is? Hopefully not- I'd really hate to think that things had gotten so desperate they need to add another distraction. Tonight is going to be quite a debate, that's all I can say.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:12 AM
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17. She has really outdone herself this season with her "support" of Clinton. It hasn't been
pretty and she's been vicious and petty. Remember seeing her laughing at Obama in the debate when HRC was yelling at him with the "slumlord" smear? I never imagined that would go over well with the African American community.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:14 AM
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18. Yeah she looked pretty stupid
Oy vey.
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:21 AM
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23. It was a classic passive/aggressive backhand “compliment”.
...borne of a desperate need to attack on ...“something...ANYTHING!”


Slip of the tongue?

1.) Obama's native country is THE UNITED STATES, not Somalia...

2.) His family actually hails from KENYA, not Somalia. But, the meme is to accent his “foreign-ness”, so hey—Africa's just one big, “datk” continent with no boundaries...

It was such a multi-leveled gaffe that it smacks of someone's cramming a size 12 talking point into a size 7 query.

Tubbs-Jones is a loyal surrogate doing her “job” in floating the meme out there. Smarmy? Yeah. But it pays the bills.

Par for the course in this, “the Silly Season”.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:22 AM
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25. I wonder how much she sold her soul for?
The comments she has been making of late, really are beneath her standing. I'm pretty ashamed watching her on TV, and often flip the channel or leave the room in disgust. What a vile woman the Clintons are making of her :(
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:24 AM
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26. And I suppose Ms. Tubbs-Jones hasn't made the connection between
Obama and the Muslim terrorist slurs, either.
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jaybeat Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:33 AM
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27. That's nothing. Just wait till the fall.
The Kenyan Swift Boat Veterans Full of Shit will pull out all the stops, and poor Barack will be like a deer in the headlights, I fear.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:41 AM
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30. He hasn't been a deer in the headlights so far.
He has kept his cool and remained on message.
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jaybeat Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:18 AM
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37. Kerry "kept cool and remained on message"
How'd that work out for him?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:33 AM
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41. Obama answers.
He just doesn't give the attacks credence. I don't think the particular directions of these types of attacks will gain voters for the person making them anymore.
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jaybeat Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 10:05 AM
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43. He doesn't have to
They'll keep coming and coming and coming.

He'll say "It's a lie." It won't matter.

He'll say "It's a distortion." It won't matter.

They'll still have him "looking like Osama bin Laden" (to most Americans, certainly to the Republicans he's supposedly "reaching out to") in every supermarket in the country.

Oh, yeah. They already do.

And what has he said about it?

"Hillary did it!"

:cry:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:39 AM
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29. C'mon.. give her a break
She'sJustTryingToRattleOffAllTheTalkingPointsAllInOneSentence, so she gets them all in .. If someone interrupts her, she'll forget her place..and have to start all over..

remember how toddlers sing their ABC's??

My guess is that she's been promised a humdinger of a job down the line..:rofl:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:44 AM
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32. I imagine she will have to issue a correction
This is not a statement that won't be criticized. She should do it quick.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:44 AM
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33. Guess who Congresswoman Tubbs-Jones is supporting?
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:45 AM
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34. Shouldn't that be a Hawaian shirt?
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Sara Bradi Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:03 AM
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36. his father's native country is Kenya nt
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 AM
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39. I was even going to suggest to Barackobama.com Tubb-jones for vp. *scratches out name*
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 09:30 AM by cooolandrew
They are going to really milk this, well Barack is popular guy we need to ignore this nonsense and just keep giving Barack the big sell, he has a lot to shout about. Get the podcast from itunes of Monday's democracy now audio. He has another outstanding advisor he is going to do great.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:34 AM
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42. I heard her say that and was a bit puzzled - does she think Obama was born in Somalia?
Or was it just another attempt by the Clinton camp to confuse the electorate about Obama's origins? Surely a woman a skilled as Tubb-Jones knows better than to 'inadvertently' make a statement such as that. Surely as an elected official she knows the requirements for running for president.
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