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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:31 AM
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I don't think anyone WANTS McCain as President; People want REAL change
And, there is a very deep concern among many people that Obama will put a happy face on the same old policies because he REFUSES to
get to the heart of the true issues...I don't blame Obama. I blame the American PEOPLE for castrating and destroying every politician that dares speaks the unpleasant truth about the harsh consequences of our government's actions for the past fifty years.

If we don't address that fact that FOR PROFIT health insurance companies can't allow all Americans to have access to decent affordable care, we WON'T solve the health care crisis...

If we don't address the fact that corporations are creating a global slave labor work force, and they need to be FOUGHT and their power DISMANTLED, you don't solve the economic crisis....

If we don't get to the root of these problems, we will only crop the surface and every ugly consequence will surface again and again and again and again and again...

And, unfortunately, it seems to take a crisis situation for people to be ready to create real and lasting change. The kind of change that needs to happen can't occur with superficial policy changes and trying to work the broken system.

So, there is a logical reason for people believing that perhaps another four years of Republican hell will be necessary for Americans to wake the fuck up. There is a very real danger that Obama will be the scapegoat for Bush's destructive policies (economic, foreign, domestic). The shit has yet to hit the fan and boy, oh, boy, will it soon. The American people have a memory of about 20 seconds, and it could easily happen that Obama will be scapegoated for things that he has no control over.

There is every reason to be deeply concerned that the progress we have made will be thwarted by a sense of FALSE hope & YES, WE CAN. America needs a period of deep contemplation and open discussion. We do not need a rock star. It may be what we WANT. It is the LAST THING we need. This candidacy seems to be more a symptom of Americans wanting easy answers and false platitudes instead of real sacrifice and active engagement in the political system. And, that scares the hell out of those who have a understanding of political history and the laws of reality.

Do we want John McCain as President? HELL NO.

May we NEED the current political situation to escalate to full out crisis before we embrace true change? Most likely. I hope I am wrong. I hope Obama will be what you expect him to be. I hope I am proved cynical and jaded, and all of you are right. There is no joy in making these observations, it would be much more pleasant to simply go along & believe. But, I just don't.

And, it is unfortunate, sad, and devastating.

This country needs to be mature enough to confront the truth & accept individual & collective responsibility for what America has become. And, it has become a very ugly thing.

I am one of you, so flame away, if you will. I really don't care. I think these points are valid, and need to be added to the discussion. I am sorry to anyone who doesn't like it. Neither do I.

(To the person who has the front page recommendation of a vulgar rant with violent overtones, I am really stunned DU allows that kind of post to even stay up - and it boggles the mind that it became a most recommended)...
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predfan Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:54 AM
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1. we don't have the luxury of giving McCain 4 years to REALLY screw up,
so we can then take back our government, because of two words....the Supreme Court. There are posts daily about Clarence Thomas, Scalia, et al., and the Repubs are one spot away from taking control. There's the reuniting thread that all Democrats HAVE to hold onto.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 10:19 PM
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4. I understand your concern, I share it


At this point, I really don't know what is best.

We are so short on time, so short on resources, and it seems so ludicrous that we don't demand candidates of substance, experience, and integrity. I wish Gore ran, but he didn't.

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TooBigaTent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:06 PM
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2. This post articulates exactly what I have been thinking for a long time.
Great job.

I too, am very afraid that a brief, minor respite from the repug (aided-by-Dems) disaster will remove the desire of the American people for "change."

BO will be unable to do too much, especially with having to get the OK of the GOP, and those toxic chickens from George's pig farm will roost squarely on the party. I wish I was wrong, but history has taught us that real change requires extreme circumstances to motivate a population to action. Electing BO and then going back to our own little worlds will not make it.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 10:21 PM
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5. It was largely ignored

I came back this evening, and this post dropped like a rock.

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ArfDogMNO Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 04:55 PM
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3. The GOP has committed self-euthanasia by
nominating such a completely uncharismatic, angry person as McCain. I am baffled by it still - he is the least likable of ALL the GOP candidates, and a terrible speaker.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 10:24 PM
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6. You mean this? It's a rant.
"OK, that's it. That's JUST ABOUT FUCKING ENOUGH, thank you."
star 188 recs · by WilliamPitt
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 10:33 PM
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7. What should keep you up at night is President McCain's VP has excellent chance of being President...
Given McCain's age and health, his chosen VP has an excellent chance of becoming President at some point.

Think about that for a minute ... we could get someone beyond bad stepping into the Oval Office, that has remained totally below the radar --IF McCAIN WINS.

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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 10:34 PM
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8. You'd be surprised how many will vote McCain, incl my Dem mother in law
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