What was the WEAKEST point of the debate for each candidate tonight?

[RoadRage]

In your opinion - what point (or points) were weakest for each candidate. My post, so my rules.. if you choose to reply - you have to post a negative for EACH candidate.. not just the one you don't support!

Also, at the end simply state who you support, and who you genuinely thought won the debate

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I'll go First:

Obama: Weakest - His answer about Campaign finance vs. McCain.. he fumbled, didn't commit.. looked a bit flip-flopish. I understand his reasoning, he doesn't want to box himself into a corner.. but to an undecided voter, that probably didn't look great.

Clinton: Weakest - Her unwillingness to release her tax records. The fact that one of her biggest Ohio backers used this against his opponent was telling - and Hillary's answer that "she'll get around to it, but she's busy" sounded very hollow and political.

I support Obama

I think Obama won the debate over all

YOUR TURN!

[Bicoastal]

1. Obama--Farrakhan (sp?) question, Hillary--Pillow comment.

The problem, I realize, is that if Obama is in the running against, say, John McCain--EVERY SINGLE White supremacist group in the country will say "Vote for McCain--He's WHITE!" But McCain would never get asked to denounce said groups on the stump. Who did people THINK Farrakhan would support, anyway?

Still, he could have answered it better. A lot of black people in this country still take Louis seriously, unfortunately, so it's definitely a balancing act.

But Hillary--man, would somebody PLEASE tell her that she has no ear for comedy? At all? It was all (mostly) downhill for HRC from there, in my opinion.

[woolldog]

5. Look.

Blacks aren't going to start voting for Hillary or stay home because Obama denounces Farakahn. Ok? Just stop it. A lot of blacks don't take Farakahn seriously. Not sure where you got that? I don't and no one I know does.

[Raejeanowl]

19. Jewish People Are More Concerned About Farrakhan

And with good reason. Clinton was asking him to repudiate Farrakhan, his pastor (who supports Farrakhan), and anyone who comes to support him as the result of a Farrakhan endorsement. Obama declined to do that, at least not as sweepingly as Clinton demanded. Since the entire point of this discussion was anti-Semitism, I'm not sure which debate you watched.

[casus belli]

22. What in the hell are you talking about?

He conceded her point. He said he didn't see a difference between denouncing or rejecting because in this case, there wasn't any component for him to "reject". But, he conceded, if she feels that reject is a stronger word, then I both denounce and reject.

What the hell is it exactly that you want him to do? Burn a picture of Farrakhan on stage and eat something kosher as a sign of solidarity?

[fishwax]

14. the pillow comment was definitely awkward

and she was complaining about always getting the first question--iirc from previous debates, they usually say that order is decided by a coin flip, right? Is she saying that the coins are an example of media bias? It all sounded very forced.

I'm watching the debate for the first time now on the replay, so I haven't gotten to Obama's Farrakhan moment yet ...

[TheDonkey]

2. Obama= Health Care Clinton= Everything else, especially her "zings" like the pillow jab

[Ravy]

3. Clinton - First question, pillows for Obama, Obama - Farrakhan and his pastor. nt

[JeanGrey]

4. I'll agree about Obama's weakest - but Hillary has so

many weak points to chose from

[Barack_America]

6. I'll agree with you on Obama. For Clinton, it was the begging for money.

I was watching this with over 25 people, but I couldn't keep myself from groaning after that. It came off as very desperate.

[RoadRage]

16. I forgot about the money begging part...

Especially since she was saying it as she dodged the real question for the first 5 minutes.. yup, great point - that was sad to watch too.

[gateley]

7. Hillary: Tax statements. Obama: Putin's successor. nt

[all.of.me]

10. I agree. nt

[RoadRage]

13. I didn't think the Putin comment was as bad for Obama as it was for Clinton..

He may not have added a lot, but her fumbling the new leaders name (and admitedly, I didn't know what it was either) softened the blow for that question.

[Raejeanowl]

20. Really?

Fluffing a difficult-to-pronounce name was as bad as Obama deferring to Clinton on that and I think two other major policy questions, because he had nothing unique to add to what she said?

[IsItJustMe]

8. I thought they both got their points across.

I could find no real weak points on either side.
I lean towards Obama. I already voted for Edwards amd believe that the debate had no definitive winner.

[TexasObserver]

9. Hillary using SNL for her attack.

[woolldog]

11. nt

[woolldog]

12. Weak...

I think he was slightly weak on the Russian question.

For Hillary, weak bringing up SNL and how she's always asked questions first; she also looked weak trying to press the Farakahn issue and he ended up making a fool of her. On these two issues the crowd was laughing at her a little bit. She was also hit pretty hard on the economy and her flip-flopping on NAFTA.

[ExtraGriz]

15. just some of obama's weak spot..

that obama heads a committee on foreign countries which includes NATO but has not held one single meeting ...he shouldnt of wasted so much time on Farrakhan, should of kept it short and to the point...and honestly, i dont think either of them knew the name to the new leader in russia, Medevde.

i thought the pillow comment was funny only because i just saw the snl skit.....but i dont think it helped her with the viewers.

[Seabiscuit]

17. I thought overall the debate was a draw but I saw some weak points ...

Hillary - The statement about Barack bombing Pakistan ...


Obama - When answered, "what Hillary said" and then proceeded to agree with her ... this actually happened a couple of times


Otherwise, I thought it was a draw.

[RoadRage]

21. Obama - When answered, "what Hillary said"

I guess my question on this is what DO you say when you & your opponent do agree on an issue? With them both having nearly identicle records.. contrary to Hillary complaining about going first, it's really an advantage sometimes to come out and make your point.

Just not sure what else they're suppose to say.. aside from re-hash the same comments for another 10 minutes?

:)

[Raejeanowl]

18. I Agree Completely With Your Two Weakest Points

I support Clinton.

And both made a number of mistakes.

On the up side, Obama is gaining ground in his presentation skills but continues to need work on his poker face; he twitches, grimaces and squirms. And Hillary managed not to dissolve in to tears or fisticuffs, contrary to all gleeful predictions.

Overall, I will give her the slight edge, chiefly because of Obama's lack of policy comprehension (both foreign and domestic) and OTHER flip-flopping mistakes outbalancing the SNL remarks, weak (Muslim garb) photo repudiation, the highly inappropriate extemporaneous fundraising commercial, and other missteps in sheer seriousness speaking to the final question, which...if anyone noticed...neither candidate really answered directly.

[Carrieyazel]

23. Obama letting Hillary roll him on the reject Farrakhan debate

He conceded it to her and fell flatter than a pancake.

[RoadRage]

24. I disagree with that..

I think Hillary would have been better off not saying anything on that point. When she tried to point out that there was a huge difference between reject & denounce, I thought she came across as petty and silly. Just my opinion though!