Anyone but me notice this PECULIAR moment in the debate?

[FlyingSquirrel]

All of a sudden, out of the blue, Obama gets asked a completely off-the-wall question by Russert (and the question is not also asked of Clinton). Will he accept public financing if he wins the nomination? Or is he.....

A LIAR????!!!!!

That fucking Russert. I could just choke him with his fucking necktie till his bloated face explodes.

So you see where he's going. He wants a nice bloody knockdown drag out fight between Obama and McCain, played on McCain's terms. He's pretty much assuming Obama will win the nomination and wants to set the rules right fucking now. Let's make it nice and even so poor innocent lamb John McCain has some kind of chance (I'm sure he accepted public financing due to his pure snow-white campaign finance reform-loving soul and not because he didn't have a fucking CHOICE.)

Well I say FUCK HIM and FUCK ANYBODY that wants to hold Obama to this. Kerry had to go by spending limits in 2004 and look where that got us - the Repigs got to slime him all summer and he couldn't respond 'cause he was saving his money for the homestretch.

SO FUCK THAT SHIT.

Sorry, I don't usually use the F word here.

:rant:

[murielm99]

1. What was Obama's answer to this stupid question? n/t

[FlyingSquirrel]

He fudged and said he'd "work it out" with McCain

And made sure to point out that he had not yet won the nomination.

[angie_love]

8. Well Obama wants to include provisions that shut out 527's and other independent groups

that McCain would never agree to. I dont' think.

[FlyingSquirrel]

11. Ha! No "Swift Boat Veterans" for McCain... I'm sure he's counting on

their support. So you're right, he won't agree to that.

[casus belli]

12. Exactly.

He'd be a fool to agree to McCain's invitation to accept public financing without assurances that he won't find "alternative means" to fund his campaign indirectly. I think Obama is making a very smart move not bowing to pressure to commit to public financing before he knows the rules of the game McCain is playing.

[Ravy]

15. It is a ridiculous proposition..

The campaigns are not supposed to coordinate at all with 527s... when, where, or if they contribute is up to them.

Unless they want to get a law passed for *this* election, they cannot agree to control of the 527s.

[grantcart]

2. Well it actually had been raised by both Clinton and McCain

and they had nailed Hillary with her tax, library papers and so many other things they had to try and get him with something


The hilarious part was after the debate when somebody asked Russert about the question and Russert said something to the effect that<" yeah I expected him to simply give his nuanced answer as he has already done." Everybody including the candidates know that its just a big show. 3-4 debates would be find but now its just a big dance.

Should be fun with McCain.

[FlyingSquirrel]

5. Back to the "nuance" thing with the Repigs

Of which I am assuming Russert is one. Watch as McCain tries to "Straight talk" his way to the WH the same way GWB rolled over Kerry.

[Johnny__Motown]

3. McCain has been attacking him on this for a week. It is out there and needs to be addressed, BUT...

If you go on to read the paragraph that follows the check mark it clearly describes his intention to pursue an agreement with the repug candidate.

He promised to pursue an agreement. You need to limit the discussion to that check mark to have a problem with his actions to date. That could change after the nomination.

[anigbrowl]

6. I'm OK with him taking public financing

both because he's made a commitment to it, and because the DNC can spend on general 'Vote Democrat' campaigning.

But more important, I think he was right to deflect the question. If he had started talking about General election commitments when McCain brought it up last week, the Clinton campaign would have crucified him for 'pretending he had already won the nomination' or suchlike.

[FlyingSquirrel]

10. I say, "Go ahead. Call me a liar."

"I'm gonna use every means at my disposal to rid this country of the scum who have killed millions in the last seven years, destroyed our economic and moral standing in the world, and are trying to destroy the very foundation of our country. If that means you get to call me a liar, that's a small price to pay for Democrats being able to outspend the Republican Party for the first time in recent memory."

[Johnny__Motown]

16. No reason to, McCain is all screwed up with his financing. Obama may have an easy out

[angie_love]

4. I would like to know Obamas answer too, as I didn't watch that part.

Obama is NOT going to use public financing if he is as smart as I think he is. Why would any rational person do that? Fuck McCain, I want to trounce that war monger this election and money is the one thing we can count on to help us win. The MSM will be drooling over McCain so we need that money.

[Major Hogwash]

7. The "F word" is a good word to use. Go ahead and use it liberally.

Conservatives are the only ones that get upset with anyone using it.

Until they get their utility bill - and then it's "that f'ing electric company! Well, this is too f'ing high! F 'em! I mean it, I'm tired of f'ing around with them!"

[MercutioATC]

9. Fuck, fuckitty fuck-fuck

No need to apologize for the "F-word" here.

It's considered a seasoning...

[casus belli]

13. Shit, however, is not. Don't use that as seasoning. n/t

[Why Syzygy]

14. He doesn't need to make any *agreements* with McCain.

Enough dealing. Hit it out of the park. We deserve it!

[LibertyorDeath]

17. I"m right there with ya

"FUCK THAT SHIT."

It's take no prisoners time!!

[FlyingSquirrel]

18. Amen.

I don't even know why Obama needs to be saying he'll work it out with McCain. That's just absurd to me.