"Barack Hussein Obama" Are you kidding me?

[The Anti-Bush]

I cannot believe I am reading people on here pretend that there is no ulterior motive to using Barack's middle name.

You cannot be that thick or ignorant.

Tell me something. What is Hillary's middle name? How about John Edwards? John Kerry? Dennis Kucinich? Mike Gravel? Chris Dodd? Bill Richardson? Al Gore?

When have you EVER heard any of their middle names on TV?

Please, stop pretending it's just saying his full name. You know better, I know better, we ALL know better.

This is nothing more than an attempt to link him to Saddam. Stop faining ignorance. We're supposed to be better than that. We're Democrats.

This, by the way, also applies to the photo of him in his Kenya garb. And the fact that Tubbs would go on TV and say that stuff about it being his native clothing, give me a break. Obama is an American. He was born here; plain and simple. They are using cheap-shot republican tactics and as a Democrat, I consider it a personal insult that they would result to such a low level of ethics.

[RockyTorres]

1. The Republicans are the ones using those tactics...Did you see the

McCain rally in Cincy, Ohio...He was the one throwing the Hussein name out there...and even Obama said he knows Hillary's camp did not release that photo...You're right, we are all Dems and we know better than that!!!

[Cha]

41. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight...and you

have your eyes covered, ect, ect..

[wndycty]

77. Oh so Bob Kerrey, Clinton surrogate, never used it?

:kick:

[jackson_dem]

102. Yeah, he used it long before he endorsed Clinton

He used it to make the very point Obama himself made a few weeks ago, but obamites didn't let these facts get in the way of the swiftboating of the Clintons on race.

[elixir]

115. Nicejob, JD.

[Sensitivity]

2. Dems don't understand the permanent effects of intra-party denigrations

The Dean camps promotion of the flip-flop meme to denigrate his candidacy allowed the Repugs to use that characterization for cut him down throught the GE

[DeadManInc]

3. The pukes are going to use

his middle name over and over.

[Kittycat]

And why does that Justify the HillCamp to use it in the same veiled manner?

[VotesForWomen]

97. there's not a shred of proof that hillary was behind it. nt

[The Anti-Bush]

98. NO, there isn't.

And I doubt that they were behind it.

My only problem with her camp on this is their "prove it" statements to the press.

I mean, wouldn't a simple "it wasn't us" been satisfactory? Why the need to antagonize the press about it? If you think they are treating you unfair, that is no way to get them to stop.

[The Anti-Bush]

8. And I expect that from them.

but not from us. I thought this was a democratic website. if I wanted that kind of bs, I would have stayed on dcjunkies.

[washingdem]

Yes, they are - What's your point? It's wrong, whether it is done by R's or D's.

[alcibiades_mystery]

21. Bullying is good because it toughens kids up!

That's the logic of the Hillary backers who pull out the "GOP will use it" card.

It's despicable.

[Cha]

44. That's one of the things they "say"..

They're so disingenous they're becoming caricatures of themselves.

[Rockholm]

101. They are already using it over and over.

[babylonsister]

4. Welcome to DU, and I concur! Tubb Jones went down in my

estimation sadly. She's smart enough to know exactly what was going on. If she didn't, that shows how messed up that campaign really is.

[RockyTorres]

20. Are you from Ohio? Just wondering?

[babylonsister]

27. No. I gained respect for her when she stood up with Barbara Boxer

in January 05 regarding the stolen elections. Her 'performance' this week disappointed me.

[The Anti-Bush]

33. Thanks, it's... interesting. n/t

[EFerrari]

36. That was very disappointing. n/t

[cooolandrew]

5. No,our best counter attack is take pride in his name BarackHussain Obama tratitor 2 america & prez.

[The Anti-Bush]

12. huh?

I hope I'm just not understanding that.

[cooolandrew]

16. We need to be sarcastic about it make fun of their nonsnse. Somalian evil doer for prez. Why take it

Whey take it serious....????

[The Anti-Bush]

34. OH, okay.

wasn't sure what side you were one... LOL.

[Cant trust em]

6. people add Rodham to Hillary Clinton all the time actually

but I do agree with the central theme of your point. It's pretty dispicable. What's worse than that is when they try to spin it as Obama being ashamed of his muslim heritage.

[Kittycat]

9. Rodham is part of her last name, one she once used regularly

[The Anti-Bush]

13. Isn't that her maiden name?

I didn't think that was her middle name.

[Cant trust em]

23. It is her maiden name, but

calling her something other than her first (and current) last name isn't out of the ordinary.

[bicentennial_baby]

17. Her middle name is Diane

Rodham is her maiden name.

[The Anti-Bush]

26. Exactly. When have you ever heard her called Hillary Diane Clinton?

Never. So what is the point of Barack Hussein Obama other than to draw a link to "the qaedas"

[Occam Bandage]

38. Her middle name is Diane, not Rodham. Rodham is her maiden name.

[Cant trust em]

43. No one ever calls Dianne Feinstein, Dianne Goldman Feinstein

or Barbara Silvershein Boxer.

[Occam Bandage]

48. Or Nancy D'Alesandro Pelosi.

[Cant trust em]

54. We know why people are using Hussein for Obama

but then why is the Rodham used for Clinton? We've established that it's her maiden name at this point, not her middle name, but for the sake of this question she's the only one with something other than her first and last name. Does that make sense?

Anyway, back to the main point. I think it's so that she could distinguish herself from her husband in some way. What do you think?

[The Anti-Bush]

59. Very possible. But the use of Rodham is for positive purposes.

Hussein is not for postives reasons.

And as far as people saying he should embrace it... I dont' get that. I mean, I don't introduce myself with my middle name.

[intheflow]

118. My understanding is that she only assumed the name Clinton

during Bill's second run for Arkansas Governor to appeal to Arkansas' more "traditional" voters. She didn't change her name when she married him, she kept her maiden name to keep her private and professional lives separated. So she herself has been using Rodham professionally since she entered the workforce, either singularly or, later, in conjunction with the name Clinton.

[LSK]

85. Let me be the brazilianth person to tell you that is her maiden name

:eyes:

[AZBlue]

114. Um, yeah...mostly Hillary. It's her maiden name and

she uses it in combination with Clinton.

Not applicable.

[washingdem]

7. Can't agree more

It is disgusting to call him Barack Hussein Obama, and to say "What? That's his middle name!" is transparent and infantile. It'd be funny if it wasn't so repugnant.

I really hope this country is adult enough to see those tactics for what they are.

[baldguy]

10. The Fifth Commandment is "Honor thy father and thy mother."

Barack Hussein Obama, Jr was named after Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. What decent Christian would ask or expect a man to dishonor his father by ignoring his family history, or changing his given name? Why should Obama care about the opinion of bigots who won't vote for a back man anyway?

[rexy]

66. Because there are people who would vote for a black man but

not a muslim. In a perfect world, I agree, it shouldn't matter. But let's face reality here. There are still people dumb enough to link his middle name with terrorists. He needs every vote he can get.

If he were trying to disown it, he would have legally changed his name. He's not. He just doesn't want his name to be tarnished by bigots tying it to terrorism.

[FlyingSquirrel]

11. Personally I hope it keeps getting used

The more it's used, the more it will be discussed and analyzed and out there for the public to hear it and get used to it. His middle name is not going to go away, so it's better to have everyone know about it now than to try and hide it like some dirty little secret, only for the Repukes to pull it out in October and spread mass hysteria among the small-minded.

[knixphan]

29. absolutely!

Racism (and sexism, and xenophobia) are all best handled by dragging the subject out of the shadowws, into the light!

Have these discussions out in the open with your xenophopic water-cooler buddies, and debunk the idea that somehow Barack is magically connected to the late Iraqi dictator...

Instead, flash a picture of one of the Bushes strolling hand-in-hand with a Saudi prince!

[The Anti-Bush]

31. I don't have a problem with that at all.

I just have a problem when I come to "democratic underground" and I read posts where people act like I'm insane for thinking that there is no ulterior motive for using his middle name.

[knixphan]

no, I agree - it's totally underhanded

And plays to the worst parts of American stereotype-happy culture...

[AtomicKitten]

14. Jon Stewart repeated it at the Oscars before millions.

It is what it is. Some people use it to attack. We'll see how that works out for them.

[The Anti-Bush]

19. He was doing it to make the same point I am though. n/t

[tishaLA]

Edwards fullname is

Johnny Reid Edwards (not John). I only know this because I sent Jake Tapper a nasty series of emails about 6 months ago for referring to Sen Obama as "Barack Hussein Obama" in one of his stupid stories. He insisted he'd also used Johnny Reid before, too.

Tapper, of course, pretended he didn't understand what might be different about "Hussein." Cuz he's a RW asshat.

[The Anti-Bush]

22. Exactly... You NEVER hear him called by his whole name on TV

[Cant trust em]

15. So the GOP will use the middle name ad nauseum in the GE

We all know that the point is to highlight the muslim heritage that Obama has. What strategy should we use to minimize the impact of the xenophobia that this is intended to generate?

[The Anti-Bush]

52. What I am saying is we can't pretend that there is nothing to it.

And some on here, I can't name names of course, are pretending like I am out of my mind because I call them out for it.

[Cant trust em]

56. I totally agree

My question is if you were running the Obama campaign what strategy would you use to difuse the impact of it. They're going to use the H-Bomb. How do you spin it in your favor?

[The Anti-Bush]

62. I think you jump out in front of it right now.

And you address the point I am making right here. You call them for trying to use the politics of fear, and you do it NOW. Don't wait.

People are forming their opinions right now. My father, who lives in a small rural northern MI town, called him Osama two days ago.

I had to set him straight.

But you address it right away.

[Cant trust em]

67. The whole drudge picture affair could have had everyone smelling like a rose

They could have denounced Drudge as a bastion of RW lies. Say that this is race/muslim fear baiting. Then say that Obama respects his muslim heritage. This is why he would be able to gain the respect for America again.

[MoonRiver]

18. This is being used by Rethugs, as we all knew it would be.

Things will get much rougher for Obama should he get the nomination. Rethugs have been holding back until they think he has it in the bag. It's obvious they can barely restrain themselves.

[Dhalgren]

24. When he becomes President, his middle name will become very

widely known - as most Presidents' middle names are. Barack Hussein Obama is his name. Only the ignorant and or the stupid have any problem with it. People who have serious concerns with his middle name will not vote for him anyway. It is not good for him to run from or appear ashamed of his name. He needs to get in front of it and so do all of us. As long as we say that using his name - HIS NAME - is inherently racist, it is going to hurt him. Do you think that no one is ever going to find out his middle name is Hussein? Hussein, Hussein, Hussein, Hussein ! Big deal - get over it!

[ShaneGR]

25. WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON......

What I can't believe is that no one expected his name to become an issue once we got to the general election. That's just a reality of presidential politics.

[The Anti-Bush]

30. And pretending that it isn't being made an issue is ignorance...

Hence the point of the thread.

[washingdem]

32. Doesn't make it right. It's a despicable tactic, and there is no grey area on this

[ShaneGR]

42. Regardless of the tactic..... if it's an "attack" to use someones middle name....

Then WJC, or George W Bush, or George Herbert Walker Bush, etc etc etc. were being defamed. You can't run away from your own name. I'm sure Obama will do fine with it in the long run, just can't let himself be "swiftnamed" I guess.

[washingdem]

50. Wow... you really can't see the difference?

[The Anti-Bush]

51. You disgust me.

You know damned well the only reason they use Obama's middle name is to try to link him to Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden... and every muslim extremist out there.

Don't be ignorant.

[Bake]

73. Just like Ronald Wilson Reagan. Richard Milhous Nixon.

Lyndon Baines Johnson.

It's used all the fucking time, people. You'd better get used to it.

Bake

[washingdem]

92. I don't hear anyone saying John Sidney McCain, or Hillary Diane Clinton

[reggie the dog]

94. middle name

George Walker Bush????

George Herbert Walker Bush


Richie Millhouse Nixon????

[marshall]

28. It does have to be dealt with

If it's just ignored then it will loom larger than it really is. It is his middle name, so what? If everyone starts using it now than by the election time it won't make a damn bit of difference.

[JaneQPublic]

40. Deal with it this way:

Point out that "Hussein" is a very common name in the Arab/Muslim World. I understand it's like their equivalent of the name "Smith" here.

In fact, it's because the name is so common that Saddam Hussein was widely identified as "Saddam" rather than "Hussein" -- to distinguish him from all the other Husseins.

Also, we need to remind people of the former ruler of Jordan, King Hussein.

[cooolandrew]

35. Sorry unless Barack take pride in his name he wont get past this. He has to shame them...

His name is is his name and unless we dilute the stigma it will come back on him. We gotta use his middle name and he must use it too.

[EFerrari]

39. He has been handling it very well for months. This is not new.

All he has to do is show up and people like him. How many politicians have we seen that can do that?

[Occam Bandage]

37. Diane, Reid, Forbes, John, dunno, dunno, dunno. Biden's is Robinette.

[Jed Dilligan]

45. Are you series111???

Joe Biden has a girl's name111!!!!111 This is hugh1!!!111111!!!

[Drunken Irishman]

49. I know you're being sarcastic, but Biden's middle name is a family surname.

Robinette was the last name of his grandmother.

[SoxFan]

46. Which explains why you rarely hear Bidens!

[Cant trust em]

47. Robinette

I bet he got the shit kicked out of him in elementary school for that one. Maybe Shel Silverstein can write a song for him. "A Boy Named Robinette".

[CyberPieHole]

53. It's his name. He needs to embrace it...not run away from it.

If he doesn't like it, he can have it legally changed. I can't imagine why he wouldn't like the name his mother and father gave him.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

55. Who gives a fuck?

[The Anti-Bush]

57. I do. A lot of us do. Thanks for the intelligent thoughtful response.

That must have taken you all of 2 seconds.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

60. It won't matter at all.

Is that thoughtful enough?

[The Anti-Bush]

64. Yes, it does matter.

I have had to correct two people on this in the last week alone. Don't tell me it doesn't matter.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

68. Consider me corrected.

[MNDemNY]

75. Too bad.

:nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity:

[The Anti-Bush]

82. Wow, that was intelligent. You give the rest of us a bad name.

[quinnox]

58. Get used to it

Although McCain will pretend he doesn't condone it, there will be tons of republican friendly political groups who will repeat it endlessly in attack ads.


"Barack Hussein Obama"

It will be shortened to "Hussein Obama" by republican talking pundits on tv, mark it.

As Nov. 2008 arrives, everyone in America will know the name Barack Hussein Obama.

[The Anti-Bush]

65. I fully expect it too, which is why I don't appreciate supposed Democrats

saying it is okay.

[closeupready]

61. There is nothing wrong with the name "Hussein". Further, it's a common name in

parts of the world, as is Osama, believe it or not, and I don't mean 9/11 babies in the Palestinian Territories. I've actually known people with that name, so these kinds of tactics just don't trigger any negative vibes in me, which is what I presume they are supposed to do.

[The Anti-Bush]

63. Yes I am well aware of all that.

And it is wonderful that they don't trigger those feelings in you, but you cannot ignore the fact that they do in some people.

[closeupready]

71. Yes, but it's useless to kvetch about it, because that is his name.

?? I mean, how do you think Obama should respond?

[The Anti-Bush]

72. He should call them on it.

Call them on using the politics of fear. And do it now; don't wait. It is an underhanded tactic, and if he gets out in front of it, they will look like the snakes they are come election time.

[AlinPA]

70. OK, but think about the ignorant 'murcans who watch Fox "News" and will see

it with their turban pictures and innuendo.

[closeupready]

76. If there are ignorant people who will let that stop them from voting for someone, then

they are lost to us, anyway, aren't they? Shouldn't we just write them off?

Is it that your concern is that this (using "hussein obama") constitutes "playing dirty"?

[The Anti-Bush]

80. No, we shouldn't just write them off.

Why would you do that? Haven't you EVER gotten anyone to change their minds? I have changed the minds of at least a dozen people. That's 12 more votes for us, and 12 less for them.

[closeupready]

84. True. There has to be a good way of countering this.

I'm just not sure how, or how big of a deal it really is.

Bottom line, he's an excellent candidate, with great ideas and a lot of optimism, he's Christian (we should probably find ways to remind people of that) and he's a proud American! :patriot:

[AlinPA]

91. That's probably true (ignorant people wouldn't vote for him for that reason),

and he can't change his name. The emphasis on his middle name by republicans and the broadcast media is aimed at the predjudiced and ignorant who are a large part of the U.S. population and changing that will be hard, maybe impossible. Not sure its "dirty" per se, but they are using it to play on the stupidity of many 'murcans.

[AlinPA]

69. Agree. The reason it matters is that 'murcans are mostly stupid, ignorant

and prejudiced. (A lot of them voted for Bush**, remember?) It's going to be hard to change this, especially with Fox "News" pounding it into 'murcans' heads.

[MNDemNY]

74. Consider yourself insulted. Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

If this has your panties in such a bunch, you better hide somewhere for the duration of the GE, 'cause you ain't seen nuthin' yet!

[The Anti-Bush]

81. You don't have to be rude about this, unless of course you

think that it is perfectly fine to use dirty underhanded tactics like that. Is that what you are saying? Seriously, that it's just fine to pull that kind of shit?

[mzmolly]

78. R/W-ers are calling him Barack OSama as well. This will be used "against" him, so we have to be

prepared. He'll be a crack head terrorist by the time the RW is through, but he has the money to combat this. I hope he'll opt out of public financing, for this reason if none other.

[stillcool]

79. I'm glad they are using his middle name...

it is his name, and the sooner they attack and ridicule his parents for the name they gave him, the sooner we get it over with. Like everything else so far, the more they attack him the more it will come back and bite them in the ass. If his name was Adolf they would be equating him with Hitler. The only people that use his name against him, are people that wouldn't vote for him regardless of his name.

[stevenleser]

83. It is sexist of you to say so...

... just pre-empting the 'cry sexism at every statement' crowd...

[DemGa]

86. Of course that's what they're doing

Who says otherwise? But the point is moot -- IT'S HIS NAME.

What can you say -- Don't you dare say his name in that tone of voice?

[Catherine Vincent]

87. Obama fans are afraid of Barack's middle name.

There is nothing wrong with using his name from time to time.

[The Anti-Bush]

89. I'm not afraid of his name.

But don't pretend there aren't other motives behind it.

[Catherine Vincent]

100. When it's used, you either think of Saddam or King Hussein

Take your pick.

[The Anti-Bush]

106. Yes, but you know darned well that when the repugs

and some of the faux dems on here use it, you know they are referring to saddam.

[Catherine Vincent]

108. Of course.

I use it every now and then because I like to see Obama supporter's heads explode.

[Scurrilous]

88. I like when they bold it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4791931&mesg_id=4793369

:thumbsup:

[The Anti-Bush]

90. Sniff Sniff.... I smell something.... stinky

What could that be?

[Horse with no Name]

93. William Jefferson Clinton. John Quincy Adams. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Nothing wrong with using the middle name...or maiden name in the case of Hillary.
What IS wrong is the connotation that it is being used for. To defame and detract.

It would be no different than someone having a name like

Mittens Manson Romney.

Although MittMan "fits" pretty well.


This pic really creeps me out.

[The Anti-Bush]

99. That is my point.

And to hear fellow dems saying that it is no big deal, I have a problem with that.

When the primaries are over, we are supposed to come together. Why not get a head start?

[casus belli]

95. And the circulation of emails claiming Obama is muslim are just a coincidence. Riiiight...

This is an easy attack. Someone can use his name in an unflattering way, knowing full well how the name is perceived by many people and with all intentions of drudging up anti-Arab or anti-muslim sentiment, but when called on it can simply say, "But, that's his real name...I'm just using it". I don't have a problem using it. It's just interesting that the only ones who seem to be using it aren't supporters of his, which begs the question...why?

[VotesForWomen]

96. the fact is that he has an Arabic name and his father was muslim and not even an american; if you do

don't think a whole lot of people in america are going to care about that you are living in fantasy land. on the other hand, nobody cares whether hill's middle name is alice or mary or sue, or whatever. duh.

[The Anti-Bush]

104. And that is one of the most ignorant comments I have read.

Did you read the post? Maybe you should go back and re-read it.

[Leopolds Ghost]

120. His father was muslim and NOT EVEN American? Get out! Seriously?

So he wouldn't just be the first black president, but the first child of immigrants president?

[NastyRiffraff]

103. It's a difficult thing to overcome, and depends on the context

Like it or not, the wingnuts WILL use his middle name. If we protest that it's a slur, and tell them they'd better not use it, they'll "innocently" counter that it's his NAME, and how is that bad?

I agree it's a slur, in most cases. But we need to look for context before immediately jumping on it. Yes, that means that some assholes will simply refer to him by his complete name, hoping to make a subtle "point," but that's reality.

[The Anti-Bush]

105. Yes, and I expect the repugs to use it.

What astonishes me is reading thread that pretend that there is nothing there when it comes to this.

And then you get other people saying so what, deal with it. I am sorry, (and this is not directed to you NRR) but if you are not going to be part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.

[Leopolds Ghost]

121. His middle name is not a slur. It's a common name in EAST AFRICA where his dad comes from

You know, our allies, Kenya and Tanzania, who got bombed by Al Qaeda
before we did. Who have been quietly starving for decades while
being a net exporter of fish to Europe. Who sent troops into neighboring
countries like Uganda and Rwanda to put a stop to terrible genocides
while the US sat on its hands... who have a history of being colonized
by the British, the Germans, Bantu Africans, Hamitic tribes, Masai warriors
AND the Arab Sultanate of Oman leading to a rich linguistic history.

Who invented Swahili (the language of African slave traders in the
wealthy sultanate of Zanzibar, where many of those Arab loan words came from)

Let's not forget that those Arab slave traders (and their wealthy black
allies from the prosperous coastal trading cities) were in there toe to
toe with the Brits and the Germans and the French, trying to convert
the rulers of newly "discovered" African kingdoms to Islam or
Catholicism or Anglicanism all the while trying to get them
to sign trade deals or tribute or impress a few of their citizens into
forced labor for the sake of the invaders.

Nobody blames Rwandans or Ugandans for having mostly Christian surnames
like Michael or Paul.

What would be interesting in the context of modern Kenyan civil disaster
is to know whather Obama's father was Luo or Kikuyu.

[knixphan]

107. I have a friend named Osama...

...with the accent on the 'MA'.

He owns it. It's his name, and he's a great person. He encounters occasional ignorance, but he handles it...

more importantly... WE, his friends, handle it right beside him.

As supporters, be prepared to help Barack by calling out YOUR ignorant friends, or bigoted family members 9if they exist, and you're on speaking terms, that is)

That's what being 'supporters' is all about.

As long as we do not let ignorance flourish, Barack will be ok.

So in a sense, Anti-bush is beginning the right kind of behavior, calling it out in public.

[Berry Cool]

109. For the record, he wasn't wearing "Kenya garb,"

he was wearing Somali garb.

Which makes the idea that his garb had anything to do with some sort of loyalty to his heritage even more ridiculous.

[October]

110. Here they are

John Forbes Kerry - He likes his JFK initials
Johnny (John) Reid Edwards
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton
Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.
Dennis John Kucinich
Christopher John Dodd
Maurice Robert "Mike" Gravel
William Blaine "Bill" Richardson III

Let's not forget William Jefferson Clinton

Maybe it's a good omen that people are mentioning Obama's middle name. We seem to do that (as a nation) with our presidents.

I also think if we get used to hearing it, it's less shocking.

[Generator]

111. I believe Hillary's middle name is

I married a president, he humilated and cheated on me, so now I deserve to be president too-but maybe that was Chris Dodd.

[slackmaster]

112. OK, you asked for it

[Alexander]

113. Diane, Reid, Forbes, John, Robert, John, Blaine and Arnold.

In answer to:

"Tell me something. What is Hillary's middle name? How about John Edwards? John Kerry? Dennis Kucinich? Mike Gravel? Chris Dodd? Bill Richardson? Al Gore?"

And yes, anyone who keeps saying "Barack Hussein Obama" over and over is obviously trying to remind people of Saddam Hussein.

They probably figure saying "Obama" didn't remind people of Osama bin Laden, so they're trying Plan B.

[Leopolds Ghost]

122. To be fair, nothing seems to remind your average Republican, or American, of Osama Bin Forgotten.

[demo dutch]

116. Come on don't tell me you're surprised! It was bound to happen and this is only the tip of the

iceberg!

[Beausoir]

117. In the real world, no one cares. And here on DU, the only times I ever hear Hussein are from Obama

supporters who, for some really weird reason, keep trying to make it an issue.

It's a non-issue. Who the hell cares about his middle name?

I care more about the fact that he's a DINO.

[BenDavid]

119. Barack Hussein Obama. Hell, it sounds better then Barry.