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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:07 PM
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Have you ever given up?
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 06:10 PM by BooScout
For the past 7 1/2 years have you just given up, laid down....just said screw it all and basically not give a damn what happens to America anymore? .........No?

Well great then.....but please don't ask, nor expect me to give up now when I am still fighting for what I believe with all my heart is what America needs most. America needs to heal. There's a jagged scar running right across America and I am not prepared to cede the battle for America's soul just yet tyvm.

We have all had so much shit thrown at us during the dark Bush years that I now am pretty sure my clothes are made of teflon and I KNOW my hip boots are steel toed with spurs attached.........so don't ask me to give up the fight now and roll over and just die. And don't ask it of Hillary Clinton either..............because whatever any of us have done for our country to try and get it back during these dark days..........she's done a thousand times more than any of us.

For 16 years she has fought for Universal Health Care. She's fought the Insurance Lobby, she's fought the Republicans, and she's fought the Democrats, her own party. She's till fighting the fight. She has never given it up.

She has been fighting for children since she left school. For better health care for them, better education, for after school programs, for help with parenting issues.

She knows what needs to be done to begin repairing America's reputation globally. She's been to over 80 countries during her lifetime, met many of the world's leaders, she's represented America proudly and competently and she is well regarded around the world.

She has long fought for women's issues.....Roe vs Wade, for equality, and for respect. ....and judging from some of the 'respect' leveled at her and other women here on DU and women in general lately.........that battle is sadly far from over.

So don't expect me to give up fighting any time soon......for some reason I still believe in America and I believe that Hillary Clinton is best suited to lead it out of the darkness.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

BooScout
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:09 PM
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1. Never....
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:10 PM
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2. Kick and REC! No way in hell am I quitting.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:10 PM
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3. Fighting for a cause is not the same as fighting for a person
Tell me, when WOULD you give up? What would have to happen for you to throw your support to Obama?


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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:11 PM
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4. k and r!!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:11 PM
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5. While I don't share the same candidate, this was nice. And don't
ever give up!
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:12 PM
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6. "For 16 years she has fought for universal health care"
Tell me then... does she support HR676? And if not... why the fuck not? Wait, I know... No insurance companies. Obama is guilty of it too. I've just HAD IT with the both of them chatting up their insurance plans... NEITHER of which is universal health care.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:18 PM
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7. I thought/think Edwards was/is the best suited to lead us out of the darkness.
:shrug: But he was run off and now I just don't really care all that much, except I don't like Obama and don't trust him. I don't know why his supporters or him for that matter want it all too be over RIGHT FUCKING NOW!111!! If he has it in the 'bag', why rush it?
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:20 PM
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8. Don't give up....
Fight for what Edwards was fighting for......the poor, the disenfranchised, the middle class. Never give up.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:52 AM
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13. Because we need to unite our party and focus on McCain.
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:28 PM
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9. No, but I have surrendered ....
Not in politics, though.

If we never stop fighting, we cannot lose.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:51 PM
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10. I have to nominate that for a DUzy
"she's done a thousand times more than any of us. "


Puh-leaze. As a private citizen, I fought like hell to stop the Iraq war. As a Senator, she fought, if anything, to make it happen. She fought for SCHIP? Not according to my research. She back Bill when he put a balanced budget and a tax cut aimed at the wealthy ahead of SCHIP.


Also, I was not especially aware of her involvement in SCHIP. So I did some googling and found this

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/10/06/c... /

Kudos to her then, except for a couple troubling details.

"The effort nearly went off the rails when Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, a Republican, said it violated the balanced budget agreement. President Clinton, eager to preserve the agreement, actually phoned lawmakers to kill the legislation when it came to the Senate floor.

Hillary Clinton defended her husband's action at the time. "He had to safeguard the overall budget proposal," she told one audience. But she insisted he would find other ways to provide health coverage for kids."

So Bill Clinton, anyway, put a balanced budget ahead of the needs of sick kids, and Hillary defended him.

Then I remembered something even more ironic. At the same time Bill Clinton was saying that we could not afford SCHIP at a cost of $24 billion over ten years, he was proposing a tax cut which favored the wealthy and would cost over $100 billion over ten years.

http://www.cbpp.org/clinttax.htm

"Analyses by the Treasury Department indicate that when fully in effect, the Clinton plan would give the 20 percent of Americans with the highest incomes about the same amount in tax cuts as the bottom 60 percent combined. This is an unusual characteristic for a tax plan proposed by a Democratic President."

So, according to Bill Clinton, we could not afford health care for children, but we could afford a much larger tax cut favoring the wealthy. Amazing what gets sacrificed when fiscal responsibility is made a priority.

Granted, this episode makes Bill look much worse than Hillary, but she also enabled and defended his bad decision. It's hardly an episode that proves that she puts the needs of ordinary people first and further illustrates that I do not want a President who has Bill Clinton as one of her closest advisors.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:43 AM
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11. tempted, but no . . . I take my cue from Pete Seeger, who when asked . . .
"Are you optimistic about the future?" usually answers . . .

"No . . . but I'm hopeful." . . .
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:50 AM
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12. When a fight ends you move on to the next one. This isn't giving up it is being realistic
Hillary's chances at the nomination are so slim that many have moved on already.


After this next round of voting we will see if her chances improve or decline. If they decline then more people will move on.


I respect your devotion to your candidate but there are still people on this board who go out and vote for Edwards and say they are "still fighting" and "not giving up" because they believe he is the one best suited to lead us out of the darkness.


I'm sorry if this upsets you but you may want to consider the damage this division is doing to our party.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:52 AM
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14. i too believe hrc is the best equipped.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:54 AM
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15. NGU k&r n/t
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