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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:40 PM
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Underestimation of John McCain is one of the worst things we as democrats can do
Underestimation of John McCain is one of the worst things we as democrats can do. I have seen 100’s of posts saying he has no shot. If anyone here thinks Obama or Hillary is going to coast into the Presidency is smoking a very fat bag of crack.

This is no Bob Dole we are up against, nor is McCain some grumpy old man everyone here seems to make him out to be - to look at him as such will be at your own peril. The republicans are facing a trifecta. They will not regain control of the house or senate - and may see a democrat as President. Do you REALLY think they are going to just stand aside and let this happen? Everything short of death threats are on the table and we need to be ready for this.

Right now there is a M$M is having a love affair with the democrats. They love the drama of Hillary vs. Obama and they will keep talking about it 24/7 until it finally comes to an end. Most of the issues between both democrat candidates are pretty much the same, Obama seems to be the better candidate of the two because of charisma, GOTV, etc. The M$M is going to lull us all into complacency and then stick it to us hard - and without lube.

Remember, POLLS MEAN CRAP this early out for the general. Dukakis was 17 points ahead of Ronald Regan before he got a serious beat down in November. You think what we have been seeing between Hillary and Obama is drama? Are you kidding? Just you wait till its one on one.. Between McCain and our Nominee. Its going to be a drunken blood fest of smears and lies.

All the attention has been on our side for a very long time. McCain has been given little to no attention (except for that sex story - which I will get into in a bit). This means he can raise money, get the ground game going, dig up dirt, and basically cross all “t’s” and dot all “I’s”.

The one true test of any candidate is how they can handle scandal and smear. McCain was hit with what looked to be a bombshell of a story - his campaign within a day took that story - turned it around and made it help him rather then hurt him. Twenty-four hours later it was dead, buried. Even fake scandals take longer then 24 hours to go away. That scared the shit out of me to be honest.

Assuming Obama is our nominee (which I want) - If he slips up in anyway - makes any serious gaffs or such.. Get ready for a media shit storm.

The youth vote is very very good for Obama however, like anything “new” it will eventually find its way into a closet - never to be used again. To the youth he is the latest music video, the T-shirt moment for some. Not to diminish him in anyway but we know how the youth is. Eventually Obama will no long be something new, the love affair will be over, and he will just be another candidate - and we have yet to see Obama without the hype - to be honest.

Underestimation will kill us in the general.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:44 PM
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1. I do not believe the candidates are, only some of the people on DU /nt
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:48 PM
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2. I totally agree...I am still pondering Obama's response to McCain
today regarding AlQaeda in Iraq...or anywhere..."We'll strike them whereever" sounds mighty like exactly the doctrine that we are living by and that McCain advocates..
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:50 PM
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3. We always have to run like we're 10 points behind. They have WAY too much at stake, like
I don't think staging a terrorist event to gain political points is beyond this Repug party. And remember they will LIE, LIE, LIE, LIE, LIE.

Dukakis ran against GHWB.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:00 PM
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4. I Am Worried As Heck
I am very worried about McCain. I know arch-Conservatives aren't crazy about him, but they'll fall in line, they always do.

What worries me is that half the nation sees McCain as "moderate." What a joke. His rating from the American Conservative Union is higher than Ted Stevens. He votes with his party like 88% of the time. This man is no moderate, yet his perception as such will lead millions of Americans to vote for him without realizing they're giving Bush a third term.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:07 PM
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5. Underestimation of anyone
is at their peril ..just ask hilaryland.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:12 PM
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6. No, we can't underestimate him and have to always be on our toes, but, it
certainly helps when he keeps lobbing presents onto our side of the field:

McCain: ‘It Doesn’t Matter’ If Indicted Congressman Renzi Is Still Part Of My Campaign

McCain has been staunchly loyal to his fellow Arizonian. After the FBI investigation into Renzi was first reported in October 2006, McCain vouched for Renzi’s “integrity”...

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/mccain-renzi-doesnt-matter/
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:21 PM
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7. Rec: I agree: Obama should imply from the begining that he is a longshot.
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 08:22 PM by Flabbergasted
It will keep his fans on their toes, fighting tooth and nail, and donating cash.

That said. I think Obama has a slightly better than even chance at this point. He looks, feels, and acts like a president. Frankly looks, feels and acts like he is ready for retirment. Just my opinion.
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