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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:35 PM Original message |
CTV News: Obama staffer gave warning of NAFTA rhetoric |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. NAFTA "criticisms would only be campaign rhetoric" |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Yes, Obama is another politician |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. It disgusts me that they would give a heads up as to what they would say |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. Do we know if this anonymous staffer worked for Obama... |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. My money's on the former too. |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. "Obama staffer gave warning of NAFTA rhetoric" |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. but......since, |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. from the article |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. That makes no sense! Obama has been speaking out publicly against NAFTA for years. n/t |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. What was the question last night about the farmers in IL |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. The story is bogus with questionable sources. Obama has been speaking out against NAFTA for years |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Did you read the comments on the article from the Canadians? |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Which is interesting because I've seen a few different polls out of Canada showing that Canadians |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
36. No kidding. This "it's only campaign rhetoric" attack is the second one I've seen here |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. BREAKING: Who gives a flying fuck? This "story" will be forgotten by tomorrow, if it even |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. It's really inspirational to get away with deceiving voters as long as |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Whatever the HELL that's supposed to mean. I'm sorry, I don't have my |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. You as good as said it doesn't matter what Obama's intentions are |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
32. You're right. Dems, even Hillary dems, are happy to let Obama decieve them on an issue like CFR |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Nice to see that Ralph Nader is posting here at DU. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. So only Ralph Nader supports Campaign Finance Reform and opposes NAFTA? |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. So now Lawrence O'Donnell and Rachel Maddow are Hillary's media flacks? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #43 |
65. They aren't doing a good job of hiding their desire to see both candidates move |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. In other words, they are NOT Hillary's flacks, in fact employed by GE. |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #8 |
111. No, it won't die. Just wait until Sept. Oct and Nov. nt |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
9. What a BS story. There isn't even any credible angle to it, and it features a quote from the AEI |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
10. Breaking... Bumper sticker political tactics do not go into details on their opponent"s positions |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
11. Another lie from Hilary and Obama. I predicted this: |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. HA, there it is, her stance on NAFTA from her "person on the hill" at the time |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #16 |
44. Let's give Lawrence O'Donnell and David Gergen lie detector tests. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #44 |
55. O'Donnel supports Obama. Gergen is neutral |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #55 |
60. And Carl Bernstein wrote a largely negative book about Hillary, but supports her on this question |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #55 |
63. A rabid Obamite who is rabidly free trade, used to work as Hill's Hill whip on NAFTA and |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:48 AM Response to Reply #44 |
97. Works for me, lie detector tests all around.Since we have so many other quotes from Hillary praising |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #11 |
120. I saw him last night claim to be 'working with' Hillary Clinton on health care |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
12. It's like a magic show... being fooled is half the fun! |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. I'm a realist. I won't vote for any candidate who supports NAFTA. |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #21 |
71. So now you're working against health care. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #71 |
79. No, I'm just against mandating the current system and renaming it single-payer |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:09 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. I understand now, you're extremely rich and worried about taxes. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:22 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Uh... no. See my posts about um, NAFTA |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:41 AM Response to Reply #86 |
91. I don't agree she's backed into a corner, but we'll see. |
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Cogito ergo doleo (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
14. Consider the source? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
45. Yep, which is whu Obama's wise old men (former Clinton heads) must suck up to him. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
15. Yeah. No shit that both of them are playing up their anti-NAFTA "cred" for Ohio. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #15 |
40. NAFTA did not exist before Clinton, so your rhetoric is absolute bullshit. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
19. The people behind BOTH the Obama and Clinton camps are the SAME on this issue. |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Well, why not just ask ourselves WHO is being destroyed in the media. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Larry O'Donnell says both candidates are playing Ohio voters for fools on NAFTA |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #26 |
42. And can this allegation be proven or disproven? |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #26 |
48. O'Donnell can eat sh*t. It's his word against Gergen's. |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
24. The Obama staffer gave the heads up and this thread has turned it |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Obama has decieved the American people. He is a tool of corporate interests |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #30 |
46. Lawrence O'Donnell is not working for Hillary, he is working for the |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. I don't support Obama, I question Hillary on any issue involving Clinton's legacy BUT |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Excuse me, you keep saying that O'Donnell is around Hillary, like um, |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:30 AM Response to Reply #53 |
64. He's working for MSNBC and rabidly denouncing anyone who would attack NAFTA |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #64 |
72. For the last time, this is an attempt to make Obama look less the liar by |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:15 AM Response to Reply #72 |
84. Alright, let's focus on Obama since he seems to be the presumptive nominee here. |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:19 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Yeah right, Hillary is going to join forces and help pull his lying @ss |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:25 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. If he repudiates it by his lonesome I am more likely to believe the media will use it as an |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:34 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. The only way he can repudiate is if the sources in Canada back down. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:52 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. One thing I will say about Hillary is that she doesn't take orders from others. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
113. Matthews pointed this out. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #24 |
56. Fuckin' clown party up in here |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
25. Prediction: This will lead the news tomorrow in Ohio and be near the top nationally |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I hope O'Donnell's quote is included. |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #28 |
49. as well as Gergen's who is on record saying the opposite of O' f'ing Donnell. |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:50 AM Response to Reply #49 |
98. sure, lets hash it all out, It will look like he is just carrying water for Hillary. Plus all her |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:06 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. I guess you didn't watch the debate. She made her position crystal clear. |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:10 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. I watched it, the point is she is not being truthful. Sorry but that is obvious and can be proven |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:12 AM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Obama just got caught in a lie. Deal. |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:20 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. what lie is that? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:29 AM Response to Reply #100 |
105. To be fair, I don't see how this revelation helps Hillary. |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:32 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. 50,000 lost jobs due to NAFTA in Ohio alone, I think some people in Ohio know and care about NAFTA |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:35 AM Response to Reply #106 |
107. And yet Ohio is about to split their vote between two candidates who waited until recently |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:52 AM Response to Reply #107 |
108. If you say so., I was focused on Hillary's lies, Every quote I have seen or heard from Obama |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 06:48 AM Response to Reply #108 |
109. What Hillary thinks is irrelevant. She is unlikely to be the nominee |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #109 |
116. Yes, if you can verify that claim. It sounds like hear say right now. His advisers told the Canadian |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #116 |
118. I am a one issue voter - the issue is: TRUST |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Canada leads the way? |
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Mme. Defarge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. If all else fails, |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #33 |
52. Self defense is a good thing. You seem to want to encourage women |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #25 |
51. Obama needs to pitch a fit. There is no proof Hillary's staffers have |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:37 AM Response to Reply #51 |
68. If Obama does NOT pitch a fit, we will know he has decieved the American voters |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #68 |
74. She has essentially said that, except that she is the supreme diplomat, unlike |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
37. Why on earth would Obama worry about the opinion of the Canadian ambassador? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. The same reason "transformational populist" Lula Da Silva did in Brazil |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. That sort of makes sense but why now? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #47 |
59. People make mistakes. The media talks about NAFTA all the time like we aren't in the room. |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #47 |
76. It was a high level campaign staffer that called |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Dear God, please let this blow his lying @ss out of the H20. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:13 AM Response to Reply #76 |
83. There is no chance in hell this is a true reflection of Obama's position. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:29 AM Response to Reply #83 |
88. It could be that there are liberals in BOTH camps who sincerely want to reform or end NAFTA |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:39 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Nice try. Obama has a history of pro globalization. A worker bee |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:59 AM Response to Reply #90 |
94. Thanks for the link |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:11 AM Response to Reply #94 |
101. We can send him back to the senate. That's what can be done about it. |
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BrightKnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
54. Free trade with Canada is not a problem . |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
57. This is what we deserve for booting fair trader Edwards for two "free" traders |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #57 |
62. They won't cry, "He fooled us!" |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:58 AM Response to Reply #62 |
75. or go crazy trying |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #57 |
66. "If he wins I can't wait to see the cries "He fooled us!"." |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #66 |
73. I will have no comfort in it. |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #73 |
77. She does not have to go against her husband's legacy. She's going to fix it. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:42 AM Response to Reply #77 |
92. Well, I do realize Hillary is considered more liberal than Bill on many issues. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
58. Did the RNC get a similar warning? |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
61. Obama has spoken on record in favor of the recent trade accord with Peru |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:16 AM Response to Reply #61 |
103. What happened to the last populist in the Senate? I recall small planes had something to do w/ it. |
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thoughtcrime1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
69. This shit is tired, bring on March 5th! |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:05 AM Response to Reply #69 |
95. Tired? I guess you're tired of hearing about the evils of NAFTA...Were you alive when it was passed? |
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thoughtcrime1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #95 |
121. Yes, I was alive when NAFTA was passed. |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
70. Barack now has so many new voters on his case he will have to deliver that's the great thing. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:13 AM Response to Reply #70 |
96. As I argued vs. Clinton, it's pretty much done deal that Obama's the one who must be pressured |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #70 |
115. ... |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
80. Almost forgot, REC! |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
81. Riiiight. n/t |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
110. kick |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
112. Edwards wouldn't have done this. |
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Freida5 (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
114. So who is Obama misleading now-Canada or America |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #114 |
117. The American voters - tell them what they want to hear |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
119. Sorry to disappoint, the Obama campaign confirms that the story is BS! |
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