Seriously, do you actually think you can guilt people into supporting Hillary?

[whatchamacallit]

You've tried shaming us with the "cultist" and "ignorant children" labels, lately it's been "you're not really democrats" or "you're helping to deny health care to 15 million people"... How long before Hill supporters threaten to commit suicide if we don't switch?

[Dogmudgeon]

1. Who is this "you"?

I support Hillary, and I don't argue these things at all.

--p!

[mrreowwr_kittty]

2. Don't forget the "traitor to your gender" charge if you are female.

Apparently, you should vote for HRC because there will never be another qualified woman running for POTUS in our lifetimes. :crazy:

Doesn't say much for their opinion of the female gender in general, does it?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

4. or the "sexist" label if you are male.

more than a few of her supporters here claim that our fact-based criticisms of her constitute nothing less than sexism.

My ass, speaking as a democrat, is my response.

[Pamela Troy]

29. Can you point out who here on DU has said this?

[Dinger]

3. Well, Do You Honestly Think There Is NO Validity To These Claims?

I agree that if there are things we do not like about a candidate, we should discuss them in an adult manner. Some people (sometimes the case with me) forget this occasionally.

[Political Heretic]

5. Uh yeah.... I think there is NO validity to these claims.

"cultist" - nope

"ignorant children" - nope

"you're not really democrats" - nope

"you're helping to deny health care to 15 million people" - nope

[Dinger]

17. I Agree With You To An Extent

My main "thing" now, as it relates to Obama , is more with some of his supporters than it is with him. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I support Hillary because she has more experience in a wide range of areas. Also, even though it doesn't relate to the issues, I admit one part of the many reasons I support her is because I don't feel she is being treated fairly by the media. Yes, Obama gets some scrutiny, but not like Hillary. I am a proud, die-hard Hillary supporter, period.

[whatchamacallit]

6. How about you, do you feel there's validity in those claims?

[Dinger]

21. Answer:

"cultist" - No,not really cultist (no on validity in my opinion)
"ignorant children" - no, not ignorant
"you're not really democrats" - no on validity
"you're helping to deny health care to 15 million people" - I'm not as informed as I could be on this, but I don't think Obama is "trying to deny" health care.

[DemGa]

7. Did you actually think that using right-wing smears e.g., Hillary is "polarizing"

would drive anyone to the fraud Obama?

Come now, you are in a short-term relationship - an infatuation - a fad.

[whatchamacallit]

9. I honestly don't care who you vote for. I believe everyone should choose their own path.

[DemGa]

11. Nevertheless, you support these methods.....nt

[whatchamacallit]

14. Why do you say that? As I stated, I'm not interested in making change your mind.

I don't spend much time bashing Hillary. Most of my posts are reactions to outlandish claims made by her supporters.

[DemGa]

16. Point taken....nt

[dionysus]

10. she is polarizing, even among dems... isn't it obvious?

it's not a RW smear, it's the reality you're too stubborn to accept.

[DemGa]

13. ........

The right-wing smears ARE the SOURCE of these perceptions among Republicans certainly -- and this has been a central theme from St. Obama.

Now YOU separate a fact from its origin. That would make my head hurt.

[dionysus]

15. using the *dem* primaries as an example, she is very polarizing.

sorry you've got blinders on.
DU is another example, although you seem to think anyone who doesn't support her here isn't a real democrat.

[Arugula Latte]

18. Your condescension is not very becoming on you.

"you are in a short-term relationship - an infatuation - a fad"

Get off your high horse. We're able to make up our own minds.

[northernsoul]

8. IF YOU DON'T VOTE FOR HILLARY, I WILL CLUB THIS BABY SEAL!!!

:sarcasm:

[mtnester]

12. No, in the same way you cannot bully someone into supporting Obama n/t

[whatchamacallit]

20. I admit my reluctance to proselytize may have something to do with the fact that we're winning, but

I'm sure I wouldn't be interested in shaming you into changing your mind even if we weren't.

[mtnester]

23. Wrong person...I am still in the non committed camp..my primary is next Tuesday

my first choice was Edward's and I have not yet made my mind up between the two left standing.

I was simply pointing out the other side of the coin. My whole point is you cannot bully or shame anyone into voting for a candidate...not in a free will society.

Thanks for your help.

[OHdem10]

19. No just as WHITE GUILT to get support for Obama only goes

so far and people recoil---guilt does not work for either candidate.

[NorthernSpy]

22. Obama doesn't make WHITE GUILT -based appeals. People actually ~like~ him.

That's the difference.

[emilyg]

24. I don't.

[anigbrowl]

28. OK. 'Lots of people' like him, not including emilyg.

[anigbrowl]

27. Am I reading stromfront.org?

Maybe it's because I was born in Europe (specifically a country that never had any colonies), but 'white guilt' has never entered my mind re. Obama.

[Jamastiene]

25. Seriously, do you actually think you can bully people into supporting Obama?

Think again.

[whatchamacallit]

26. No, of course not.

This is where we have an advantage, we don't have to. He's doing fine without Hillary supporters.

[Bluebear]

30. 'He's doing fine without Hillary supporters.' - will that work in the GE?

[Marrah_G]

31. Flamebait

[whatchamacallit]

32. This post was in response to one about how we used to democrats before Obama

Talk about flamebait! If anyone should be ashamed, it's people who call you names for not supporting their candidate.

[Marrah_G]

33. I must have that poster on ignore... I haven't seen that thread