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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:48 PM
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IF Hillary wins TX and OH with at least 65% in both states, she IS back in the game.
Let me know when ANY poll shows anything NEAR those numbers. Thanks! :hi:
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mckara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:49 PM
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1. Good Luck!
n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:50 PM
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3. You mean with seeing any polls reflecting those numbers?
:)
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:49 PM
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2. at this point the only poll that matters comes on Tuesday. nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:51 PM
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5. True. And I don't see it happening that way. n/t
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:53 PM
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8. I can't wait for Tuesday to be over
So much anxiety I have will have lifted after that day. On the other hand, that's how I felt before Super Tuesday.

Also there's a big soccer game that day for my favorite team. It's going to be another tension filled day at the office.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:54 PM
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12. Same here...
minus the soccer game. :)
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:50 PM
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Nice to know you set the expectations for the country
:hi:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:52 PM
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I didn't make up those expectations. I got them from nearly every person who studies these things
on tv. :hi:
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Baconfoot Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:50 PM
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4. Yes but even as an Edwards turned Hillary supporter (world's only), I doubt that will happen. NT
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:58 PM
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15. As a Clark turned Obama supporter, I agree. n/t`
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:52 PM
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6. Moving the goalposts?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:53 PM
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9. Yes, Hillary is moving the goalposts. But the numbers say she has to win with at least 65% in both
states.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:54 PM
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11. Or what? Obama cannot get a majority by the convention.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:56 PM
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13. Doesn't matter. The superdelegates will follow the will of the people. n/t
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:57 PM
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14. So they will vote for the candidate who hasn't won a majority?
:shrug:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:58 PM
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16. He WILL have won a majority of delegates and the popular vote!
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 07:59 PM by jenmito
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:55 PM
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37. So what? Hillary can't even catch up to obama's popular vote or pledged delegates!
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NYdemocrat089 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:52 PM
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7. That's a big IF.
I'm a Hillary supporter, but I have my doubts over Hillary achieving 65% of the vote in both states.

I do wish her good luck though!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:00 PM
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17. I know...
that's why I put it in caps. :D
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:53 PM
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10. It is in the courts' hands again.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:03 PM
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18. Nah. I wouldn't worry about that. n/t
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:10 PM
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19. I love DU your Headline made me laugh outloud
:hi:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:12 PM
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21. Thanks, bigbrother...
I aim to please. :hi:
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:12 PM
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20. the numbers ive show she needs to win by only 57% in both places to remain viable
eom
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:15 PM
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23. Where'd you see those numbers?
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:43 PM
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28. 58% if you want to get techinical...
and that is the percentage IF she wins EVERY single state from here on out. There are some states like Vermont, Mississippi, Wyoming, Oregon, and so on that Obama will probably win. So she needs around a 65% in both Texas and Ohio... and not just in the vote.... 65% of the delegates... which makes it really, really difficult.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:47 PM
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31. Thanks for that. So if things go as expected, she DOES need at LEAST 65% in OH & TX.
:hi: Thanks for the explanation.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:44 PM
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29. IF I recall correctly, the 56-7 percent figure was what she would require in every remaining state
including the states where Obama has a commanding lead.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:48 PM
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32. Yup. Mckeown explained that in his/her post above. n/t
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 08:50 PM by jenmito
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:15 PM
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22. Maybe they'll find a photo of Obama on Gary Hart's lap
that'[s the only thing she can hope for at this point
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:17 PM
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24. I'm not sure THAT would even work at this point!
But ya never know. :D
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:34 AM
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55. Don't forget he'd have to be wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt. n/t
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:18 PM
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25. I think you are right because she needs to win 15% of the remaining delegates
and in some places like North Carolina and Mississippi coming up, Obama will win.

Obama is favored in about half the contests remaining AND Hillary needs to WIN most, if not all by decent margins.

Oh, and as we all know there is no way in hell that Hillary will win by double digits in both Texas and Ohio, and especially not by 30%.

Best case scenario for Hillary on Tuesday:

Ohio +8, Texas +4. Even if this happens though, I still think Obama will nearly break even with the delegates b/c of the rules in Texas.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:21 PM
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26. Exactly...
Good analysis. :hi:
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:39 PM
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27. thanks :)
things are looking great for Obama
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:45 PM
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30. You're welcome...
I agree. And welcome to the DU! :hi:
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:50 PM
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33. 65% of the available delegates, not 65% of the vote,., she has no chance
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:53 PM
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34. True, which makes it more like 70%.
Not gonna happen. :D
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 11:06 PM
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40. It was over feb 4th, super tuesday.
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:45 AM
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57. agree
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:20 PM
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35. She'll stay in the race even after she loses 13 primaries/caucuses in a row.
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 09:21 PM by Major Hogwash
She may drop out of the race after she loses Wyoming however.
They didn't even bother opening an office in Wyoming.

Obama has 5 offices covering the state.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:34 PM
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36. I think she'll win OH. When is Wyoming's primary or caucus?
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:07 AM
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41. Saturday, the 8th.
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 01:08 AM by Major Hogwash
The cowboys are ready!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:59 PM
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38. Well she's at about 45% now in Texas, so a surge must be forthcoming ....
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:26 AM
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59. I agree 100%...
:hi: :D
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 11:05 PM
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39. I loled!
Yeah like thats gonna happen!:rofl:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:21 AM
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58. Good...
that's what I was going for. I doubt it's gonna happen, too. :D
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Hillary_Hillary Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:54 AM
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42. Not true. She's back in the game if she wins by 0.5%. A win is a win.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:32 AM
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45. no - it's not "winner take all" re delegates. A tie maintains Obama's delegate lead.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:42 AM
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46. That's Hillary_Shillary you're talking to
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Hillary_Hillary Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:42 AM
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47. I know this. He can't without superdelegates.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:58 AM
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48. So the superdelegates should over-rule the vote of the people? Is that what HIllary wants?
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:02 AM
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49. Does Hillary have any superdelegates left? They're all switching to Obama, so I hear.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:02 AM
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50. Back in the game after losing 11 in a row. If Obama lost 11 in a row...
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:11 AM
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43. Haha, not gonna happen.
Thanks for the laugh Jen!

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:27 AM
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61. I agree...
You're welcome! :hi: :D
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:31 AM
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44. Hillary does not deserve to be the nominee.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:30 AM
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62. I agree. She has already proven she plays dirty, makes gaffes during debates, can't run
a campaign, has inconsistent behavior, and at this point is helping the Repubs., giving them talking points to attack Obama.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:09 AM
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51. Rhode Island is the new firewall.
Didn't you get the memo?

:rofl:

-Laelth
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:31 AM
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63. Oh. I thought it was Puerto Rico.
:rofl:
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:36 AM
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52. IF Hillary had ham, she COULD have ham and eggs, IF she had eggs.
Turn out the lights -- the breakfast bar is closed.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:32 AM
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64. Happily,
I agree with you. :hi:
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:27 AM
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53. Makes me laugh everytime I see the Headline
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:33 AM
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65. I'm glad I could make you laugh!
:hi:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:32 AM
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54. Question: If she wins 100% of the vote, will she be able to secure the nomination.
Anything is possible
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:34 AM
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66. Yes. Anything IS possible. But VERY improbable. n/t
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:44 AM
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56. I concede the point. If she wins Texas and Ohio by 30 points each, she is back in the game.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:35 AM
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67. Thank you.
:D
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:27 AM
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60. If I was 7 feet tall I'd be in the NBA
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:35 AM
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68. Not necessarily!
:D
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