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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:24 AM
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The oft-touted "salt of the earth" base spin deployed against Obama -- and its fallaciousness (TNR)

A few introductory comments. I know at this late date -- when a Hillary loss March 4 in EITHER Texas and/OR Ohio, which seems likely, will put to rest the notion that she has any serious chance at the nomination, and begin a whole new phase of 'wrapping up' her campaign -- it does seem gratuitous to focus on this critique of a spin Hillary Clinton and her campaign (and MANY supporters on DU) have tried to put forward. However, I want to critique it and how it has been embraced, including by DEMOCRATS, against Obama, as it is almost sure to pop up again in the general if Obama (or HRC) is the nominee, with McCain palmed off as the 'candidate of the common people against the Merlot-sipping ivory tower, ivy league establishment blah blah blah elite. We need to start addressing this canard NOW!!!!!

I would also say, as we go into Ohio and Texas, that the deployment of this canard is still a major factor in these major primaries, and needs to be challenged -- BUT MAINLY WITH THE GE IN MIND.....

Excellent article (like his belated debunking of the flipflop spin in Oct 04) by Jonathan Chait in The New Republic:

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=6420bc21-0341-488f-89c8-088db4dc3f5f&p=1

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The warm glow of moral self-satisfaction that white Barack Obama voters like me have been enjoying for months has slightly ebbed in recent weeks, as the press has informed us that we are not real Democrats at all, but a bunch of pampered elites.

The trend has been proclaimed for nearly a year--specifically, since last March, when Ron Brownstein of the Los Angeles Times wrote a highly influential column depicting Hillary Clinton as the "beer track" candidate and Obama as the "wine track" candidate. As the voting has proceeded, and Clinton has held the loyalties of the working class, this analysis has spread and taken on an accusatory tone. "If you have a social need, you're with Hillary," sneered one Clinton adviser. "If you want Obama to be your imaginary hip black friend and you're young and you have no social needs, then he's cool." A union president introducing Clinton at a recent speech asked the audience if it wanted an "editor of the Harvard Law Review or a fighter for working families." Thus the strange alchemy of the campaign has transformed Hillary Clinton into Jim Traficant.

Before the Clintonites get too smug about their working-class heroism, though, it's worth pointing out that their proletarian tilt seems to have come as a total accident. Indeed, the well-heeled liberals they now deride are exactly the voting base they coveted during the Clinton presidency.

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When Hillary Clinton began her presidential campaign, with Penn as her chief strategist, she displayed no particular animus toward the Starbucks set. Her favorite economic mantra was "fiscal responsibility." She even defended her ties with K Street by declaring that lobbyists "represent real Americans." As the campaign has proceeded, and Clinton's support has increasingly been concentrated among the white working class, she has taken an increasingly populist tone.

But there's no particular reason to think her working-class support has anything to do with policy. Clinton's economic positions are no more populist than Obama's. Her downscale support long preceded her populist rhetorical turn and seems to be an artifact of downscale voters spending less time consuming political news, and therefore gravitating toward the more familiar candidate. Obama has done better with working-class voters in states where he has had time to campaign extensively. His worst loss (aside from Arkansas) came in Florida, where no campaigning took place. In Iowa, where the candidates achieved total saturation, he defeated Clinton among low-income voters.

Clinton's embrace of working-class chic has been a way of making virtue out of necessity. Being the blue-collar candidate has enabled Clinton to portray herself as grittier and more real than Obama, and to suggest that her base is more authentically American than his. During the Bush era, conservatives endlessly gloated that their party consisted of salt-of-the-earth, beer- swilling, NASCAR-loving Real Americans while Democrats represented Starbucks- drinking cosmopolitan snobs. Clinton's campaign has inherited this cultural mythology.

When Hillary Clinton began her presidential campaign, with Penn as her chief strategist, she displayed no particular animus toward the Starbucks set. Her favorite economic mantra was "fiscal responsibility." She even defended her ties with K Street by declaring that lobbyists "represent real Americans." As the campaign has proceeded, and Clinton's support has increasingly been concentrated among the white working class, she has taken an increasingly populist tone.

But there's no particular reason to think her working-class support has anything to do with policy. Clinton's economic positions are no more populist than Obama's. Her downscale support...preceded her populist rhetorical turn and seems to be an artifact of downscale voters spending less time consuming political news, and therefore gravitating toward the more familiar candidate. Obama has done better with working-class voters in states where he has had time to campaign extensively. His worst loss (aside from Arkansas) came in Florida, where no campaigning took place. In Iowa, where the candidates achieved total saturation, he defeated Clinton among low-income voters.

Clinton's embrace of working-class chic has been a way of making virtue out of necessity. Being the blue-collar candidate has enabled Clinton to portray herself as grittier and more real than Obama, and to suggest that her base is more authentically American than his. During the Bush era, conservatives endlessly gloated that their party consisted of salt-of-the-earth, beer- swilling, NASCAR-loving Real Americans while Democrats represented Starbucks- drinking cosmopolitan snobs. Clinton's campaign has inherited this cultural mythology. {emphasis added -- Cloudy}

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:07 AM
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1. TNR has lied about Hillary in the past -and now "his" feelings are hurt on hearing some truth about
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 11:08 AM by papau
the Obama supporters.

He does love to assert crap as if it were truth.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:37 PM
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6. This is a column by TNR editor Jonathan Chait -- concerned with accurate analysis of voting patterns
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:38 PM
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7. This is a column by TNR editor Jonathan Chait -- concerned with accurate analysis of voting patterns
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:09 AM
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2. I've often considered that a lot the "blue colllar" support comes from people who just don't
pay that close of attention to politics so they go with what's familiar.

Heuristics, basically.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:13 AM
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3. Think about what you just posted...
...seriously...think about it.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:38 AM
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4. The situation is more complex than that, but the article does evidence that Obama does better ...
the longer he has to focus his attention on a particular state.

It IS true that not all people are equally focused on politics, and different people react differently or have different foci. For example, people under 30 are MUCH more likely to be computer savvy and to get info and ideas through the web than those over 60. The latter might indeed get a LOT of political info (aside from social class) from MSM TV shows like Meet the Press and such that run on Sunday. Note that AGE is a HUGE factor in this campaign, with a consistent pattern of younger voters going for Obama and much older voters going for Hillary (though there have been various ups and downs among the intermediate voters).

A second thing to keep in mind, eg on the issue of "ethnic politics" and the supposed preference for Hispanic voters for HRC over Obama, for various spun reasons: (1) that Obama is black and there is much resistance to him as such; (2) that for some reason the Clintons are especially popular among latino voters; (3) that the 'political class' within the latino community favors HRC and brings the majority of the latino community along with them, etc etc.

However, several points are worth noting. First, HRC led STRONGLY among BLACK voters, eg in South Carolina, for many many months, including up at least through Sept. The OBVIOUSLY ACCURATELY OBSERVED deliberate race baiting from HRC and her surrogates only BEGAN after then, when various factors including Oprah and Kris Rock spurred a dramatic and ongoing shift of black voters to Obama; only THEN did HRC and campaign basically write off the 'black vote' and then whine to the heavens about how they were being framed for the 'provokatsiia' in which they were indeed engaged. In other words, until Obama gained a lead among black voters, the patterns for black and chicano voters were quite similar. And again, the more exposure Obama gets, the stronger his support.

No one to my recollection EVER raised the supposition that Chicano or other latino voters wouldn't support a black candidate during the 80s when Jesse Jackson was running, and (late in the 80s and then early 90s) when I was on the board of the 9th CD Rainbow chapter in CA. Odd how all of the sudden these "traditions" of politics are conveniently discovered as Rx for spin doctory.

The overall issue of the DEGREE of political attention (as well as nature and spheres of "attention") differing by social class and education, as well as by age and other variables is a LEGITIMATE area for analysis. When you try to sentimentally ASSUME that such a pattern MUST be false because it is "elitist" or otherwise politically incorrect, perhaps YOU should think about what YOU are doing. (This isn't to say that the picture of political interest -- only SOME of whose complexities I have tried to outline -- was accurately or especially FULLY explored either by Jonathan Chait or Bread and Circus. But the point made IS a valid starting point, an 'heuristic' as it were -- to measure reality against. Dismissing these kinds of observations out of hand for ideological reasons is a slippery slope similar to the way LaMarckian evolution was pushed by Communists as more 'proletarian' in outlook.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:42 PM
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8. you're using the wrong brush many of my 50/60+ friends are computer savvy and get our news here too
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:51 PM
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