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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:31 AM
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Signs from Texas: Hillary campaign wasn't ready on day one

Texas: End of the Road For Hillary Clinton

February 29th, 2008 by SHAUN MULLEN

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Clinton is likely to lose Texas because there is no potentially controversial photograph of Barack Obama at this late date that could check the extraordinary momentum that he has kept building and building. Seriously folks, she has simply run out of effective talking points because she had too few to begin with in a campaign smugly predicated on the aura of experience and inevitability, while Obama will be able to outspend her for TV commercials and other advertising by a 2-1 margin.

In fact, Clinton may lose the delegate race by a wider margin than the popular vote because of what wags refer to as the “Texas Two-Step.”

This is a system that her campaign had to acknowledge it didn’t even understand until last week, much too late for it to try to change another set of rules that it found to be inconvenient. Some 126 delegates will be designated by primary vote results and 67 decided in caucus elections attended by people who enrolled for them when they voted. The remaining 35 are superdelegates.

Clinton’s campaign never gave a prairie dog’s ass about building grassroots organizations state by state as Obama has done to great effect in all 50 and this will hurt her in Texas.

The substantially larger Obama ground operations have repeatedly tripped her up as Obama has amassed 10 of his 11 straight victories by margins greater than 20 percent and by a mere 17 percent in Wisconsin, yet another state that had seemed tailor made for a candidate who was fitting herself for a tiara before the first primary vote was counted.

The Texas system will be especially cruel to Clinton because Obama is likely to pick up the lion’s share of the 67 caucus delegates. With the exception of Nevada way back on January 19, Obama’s hyper-committed supporters have killed Clinton at caucuses.

Wait! It gets worse for Clinton.

The delegate apportionment of the primary popular vote will be based on turnout in the 2004 and 2006 Democratic primaries. Turnout was highest in African-American areas of Dallas and Houston and in Austin and environs, home to the rich liberals who have turned out in droves for Obama in other states. Clinton is likely to pick up comparatively few delegates in areas heavy with the Latino voters who were going to be her firewall.

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How did this happen, start here:

Senator Clinton Campaign Worried by Texas Primary System

by: Phillip Martin
Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 08:30 AM CST

This is very strange:

According to a report in today's Washington Post (thanks to our Kossack friends for the tip), Senator Clinton's campaign is worried about the Texas primary system, and apparently some are only now learning how it works. From the Washington Post article titled, "System Worries Clinton Backers":

Several top Clinton strategists and fundraisers became alarmed after learning of the state's unusual provisions during a closed-door strategy meeting this month, according to one person who attended.

What Clinton aides discovered is that in certain targeted districts, such as Democratic state Sen. Juan Hinojosa's heavily Hispanic Senate district in the Rio Grande Valley, Clinton could win an overwhelming majority of votes but gain only a small edge in delegates. At the same time, a win in the more urban districts where Sen. Barack Obama expects to receive significant support -- could yield three or four times as many delegates.

They're only learning about this this month??? They must not be regular readers of BOR.

The night of Super Tuesday, I spent several hours reading up about the TX primary system. The next day, I looked at the incredibly useful Lone Star Project report about the numbers, and asked a lot of questions about how it worked. On Thursday, I wrote these two long posts explaining the Texas primary and delegate system, and on Friday February 8 (ten days ago) these two posts were published on BOR:

* Explaining the Delegate Process, Part 1
* Explaining the Delegate Process, Part 2

That was two weeks ago. Last week, both KT and I wrote about how Senator Obama will do well in TX:

* How Barack Obama Can Win Texas
* Clinton Up 49-41 in Texas Poll; Obama May Win More Delegates

I'm a 23-year old grad student who is not even living in Texas right now. KT is younger than I am, and just moved back to Texas a few months ago. How is it that Senator Clinton's campaign was not prepared for Texas?

The truth is, Senator Clinton's campaign never planned on having to run after Super Tuesday. They chose a handful of key states to focus on, and thought that would put them over the top. Meanwhile, Senator Obama worked in every state, picked up lots of little states to blunt Senator Clinton's California momentum, and has been racking up wins ever since.

Many state elected officials are complaining that the Texas primary process isn't fair -- that the formulas unfairly hurt the Hispanic districts (a process that they voted to ratify at the 2006 state convention). Well, the truth is, the formula rewards the Democrats that have been showing up to the polls consistently over the past couple of years in the general election to support our presidential and statewide candidates. As TDP Chair Boyd Richie explained in the Post article:

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Good lord, let’s see if I have this right. The Clinton campaign decides to cede every post-Super Tuesday state to Obama under the theory that Texas and Ohio will be strong firewalls. After –after – implementing this Rudy-esque strategy, they “discovered” that the archaic Texas rules will almost certainly result in a split delegate count (at best).

While they were busy “discovering” the rules, however, the Obama campaign had people on the ground in Texas explaining the system, organizing precincts, and making Powerpoints. I know because I went to one of these meetings a week ago. I should have invited Mark Penn I suppose. (ed. Maybe foresight is an obsolete macrotrend.)

In this respect, Texas is simply a microcosm of the larger campaign dynamics. In fact, if the Clinton campaign were a corporation, the shareholders would have pretty good grounds for a derivative suit for Texas alone.

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Then there is the nonexistence of Hillary's ground game, including Bill Clinton passing on incorrect information.

Texas: "Win or Lose State" or "Win and Lose State"?

by: Karl-Thomas Musselman
Mon Feb 25, 2008 at 03:04 PM CST

Not that this comes as a shock or a surprise, but Texas is on the verge of not mattering in the presidential primary March 4th... at least according to Bill Clinton in his interview with ABC News.

"If you vote early or you vote on March the 4th in the popular election, 65 percent of the delegates will be selected to the national convention. But 35 percent of the delegates for the national convention will be selected Tuesday night, March 4, at 8000 Percent Convention all across this state," Clinton told the crowd in Killeen this morning.

"The doors open at 7 and they close at 7:15. It would be tragic if Hillary were to win this election in the daytime and somebody were to come in at night and take it away."

Yes, believe it or not, Texas could simultaneously matter... and not matter. Aren't we special!

Of course, the Clintons are well on the way to not mattering in the Texas caucuses if Bill Clinton keeps informing people that "the door open at 7:00 and close at 7:15". This is mainly because the doors actually open at 7:15 and have no specific set time to close.

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Maybe there was too much reliance on Bill's popularity and Hillary's history in Texas, which was touted in a February 25 Reuters' article that was picked up by every news organiztion from the Boston Globe to the Washington Post:

In Texas, Clinton has history and Obama has buzz

By Claudia Parsons

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Clinton's history in Texas dates from 1972, when she worked on Democrat George McGovern's presidential campaign registering voters. Her team also points to the popularity of former President Clinton among Hispanic voters, a quarter of the Texas electorate.

Obama's state director for Texas, Adrian Saenz, said the campaign understood the bar was high because of the Clintons' history and popularity. He said Obama, an Illinois senator who would be the first black U.S. president if elected, had spread his resources throughout the state to counter Clinton's strength, especially among Hispanics.

"The notion was that Senator Clinton was really strong in south Texas and that was Clinton country down there," he said. "She was down there this week and drew a crowd. We were down there a couple days later and drew a crowd that was almost twice as big."

Saenz said Obama's campaign had some 125,000 volunteers statewide and a few hundred volunteers had recently come in from other states.

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Today, the WSJ featured one Obama's volunteers:

Ian Davis, BOR Member/Obama Activist, on Front Page of WSJ

Freaking Awesome. Go read it now.

(Obama's) organization in the Lone Star State, which holds its potentially decisive presidential primary on Tuesday, has been "more like a baling wire and duct tape thing," says Mitch Stewart, who is running the campaign here. Mr. Stewart and the first dozen paid Obama staffers touched down in this capital city less than three weeks ago.

The uncharacteristic late start has left the Illinois senator relying to an unusual degree on the groundwork of volunteers such as Ian Davis. The 29-year-old Austin community organizer has been laboring for months with no guidance at all from Obama headquarters. When Sen. Obama's team finally arrived, Mr. Davis handed over laundry baskets stuffed with 20,000 handwritten names of potential volunteers, which Mr. Davis had gathered on his own.

"At the end of the day," Mr. Stewart says, it will be people like Ian Davis "who win this thing."

Congrats Ian. Our hats are off to you.


That's a sign of commitment on the part of the Obama campaign and his supporters.

On the other hand, Hillary's campaign has been poorly mananged and woefully unprepared.

Since they didn’t build an effective ground campaign or take the time to become familiar with the rules, again, are they going to file a lawsuit, again?

Then there is the bizarre recurring message --- nothing says losing like running a national campaign on the premise that some of the primaries and caucuses don’t count.



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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:43 AM
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1. Pay no attention to the incompetence of The Experienced Leader
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:22 PM
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3. Everyone
ignores the inconvenient truth.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:34 PM
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7. Wow, still only
one other comment besides mine!



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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:27 PM
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15. Your post are so full of info, It takes abit to digest.
I have enjoyed your condensed posts very much, you really pack it in in your allotted 3 posts a day.

Cheers! K&R
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:41 PM
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18. Thanks!
Things move so quickly around here, I'm sure a lot of threads go unnoticed.

Thanks to all for responding!

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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:29 PM
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49. If this was really about experience, then Richardson would have the nominatio wrapped up on Super T.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:35 PM
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2. Clinton campaign downplays lawsuit suggestion

Clinton campaign downplays lawsuit suggestion

Spokesman Mo Elleithee emails:

The Clinton campaign has not made any threat 'direct or veiled' to engage in litigation and no legal action is being taken. The campaigns have been discussing primary night procedures and we asked for those procedures to be put in writing before we agree to them. It is standard operating procedure for our campaign — and we presume any campaign — to see what we are agreeing to in writing before we agree to it.


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:30 PM
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4. DUMB SPIN
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 03:31 PM by ProSense

I'm Confused

29 Feb 2008 12:15 pm

I don't understand at all. Key excerpt:

The Obama campaign and its allies are outspending us two to one in paid media and have sent more staff into the March 4 states. In fact, when all is totaled, Senator Obama and his allies have outspent Senator Clinton by a margin of $18.4 million to $9.2 million on advertising in the four states that are voting next Tuesday.

Senator Obama has campaigned hard in these states. He has spent time meeting editorial boards, courting endorsers, holding rallies, and - of course - making speeches.

If he cannot win all of these states with all this effort, there's a problem.

So if the candidate who's leading in delegates, national polls, fundraising, and states won can't sweep the March 4 primaries, then Clinton is the real winner? Maybe they should just go back to arguing that Texas doesn't count.


DUMB SPIN.

Sometimes, I really wonder how dumb the Clinton campaign thinks we are.

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So if Obama doesn't outright win the states Clinton is favored in -- if he merely closes the gap -- Democrats are "having second thoughts about him."

Who is this aimed at? Political reporters know it's dumb. Political junkies know it's dumb. Superdelegates aren't going to be taken in by it. What's the target audience? And why aren't they making better arguments? If I were the Clinton campaign, I'd be making serious hay out of the fact that, one way or the other, Clinton won Florida and Michigan, will probably win Ohio, and remains favored in Pennsylvania. In other words, Obama may do well in South Carolina and Wisconsin, but Clinton is preferred in the relevant swing states, the states Democrats will actually need to win the election, particularly now that Arizona's John McCain has shot the Interior West strategy to shit. But instead we get these silly press blasts abut how a loss in Ohio is an unexpected blow for Obama.

Why is she paying these people?


Sticking a Finger Into My Brain

I have a pretty broad tolerance for messaging that comes out of campaigns. I appreciate that political speech includes hyperbole, spin, exaggeration, theater, etc. Just don't talk to the world as if it's as stupid as George Bush.



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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:09 PM
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5. DUMB AD
Today Hillary's campaign played the fear card in a new ad.

It would help if her $10 million chief campaign strategist did some research. Here's the irony (sticking Bill's foot in his mouth without permission):

Bill Clinton says you should vote for Obama over Hillary

Hillary should have fired Mark Penn for consistently being wrong

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:24 PM
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6. Mark "Blackwater" Penn, wrong again.
Mark Penn, Mrs. Clinton’s pollster and top strategist, said the ad did not say that Mr. Obama was unqualified but rather that it gave voters a choice. “People have seen both candidates, they’ve heard their experience,” he said, adding that “voters have made judgments on this.”

Mr. Penn suggested that Mr. Obama’s speech against the Iraq war “at an anti-war rally” hardly qualified him to be commander-in-chief.

“The question really is, who’s going to have the wisdom, strength, going forward to make the decisions that have to be made?” he said.

Polls continue to suggest that while voters prefer Mr. Obama as president, they still believe that Mrs. Clinton is a stronger leader.

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Wrong again.


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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:08 PM
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22. I would say ...
Given that she hired this man: “The question really is, who’s going to have the wisdom, strength, going forward to make the decisions that have to be made?” he said. ... it rather is a slam against her judgment and not for it.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:46 PM
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9. "The Texas system will be especially cruel to Clinton"

Thanks for the Smile :)

Rec!
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:35 PM
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8. Texas
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:30 PM
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24. Pat Oliphant's not too understanding
of hilary's debate behavior in Ohio..

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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:37 PM
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31. Actually I think he's QUITE understanding of it
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #31
37. Touche dude..
& Welcome to DU.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:55 PM
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10. K & R !!!
:bounce::kick::bounce:
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:01 PM
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11. kick for later reading
do appreciate all your work
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:08 PM
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12. Your posts are always of extremely superior quality than just about
anything I see here on DU, for those who actually want information.

You are an outstanding DUer......

Thank you for your service! :patriot:
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:12 PM
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13. Agreed.
Hear, Hear! :toast:

:kick:
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:50 PM
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19. Kick for ProSense!
She's the coolest.

:bounce:
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:12 PM
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20. Agree 100%
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 09:13 PM by fedupinBushcountry
ProSense, :yourock:

K&R

:kick:
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:14 PM
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14. If you were a candidate, would you ever publicly admit to not understanding the process?
How does that work in your favor?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:25 PM
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48. I'd guess it works about as well in one's favor as saying
"F*** Alaska... and Idaho... and Utah... and North Dakota... and Kansas... and Nebraska..." :P
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:29 PM
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16. Best. Post. Ever
WONDERFUL summary of what has been happening over the last few weeks down here in TX.
Obama took Texas away from HRC months before she and her people even thought about the state. She lost it long before she even crossed the stateline...put her in a position of having to play catch-up from day one.


Hey, HRC, you know that Texan slogan "Don't mess with Texas"???? Doesn't just have to do with our highways...it also applies to OUR VOTES. Try to remember that as you make plans to file a lawsuit Tuesday night, OK??
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:39 PM
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17. Calling for Change
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:54 PM
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21. K & R.
:thumbsup:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:21 PM
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23. Old school..pre Dean..
"Then there is the bizarre recurring message --- nothing says losing like running a national campaign on the premise that some of the primaries and caucuses don’t count."

Shoulda paid attention to Dean and what he was all about in the 2006 election instead of trying to oust 'im..ala james carville and harold ford jr.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:20 AM
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26. It's Hillary's
five states strategy.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 03:24 PM
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33. They couldn't see what so many
saw in Obama..that man had potential!
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:15 AM
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25. K & R
:thumbsup:
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:23 AM
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27. ..........
:kick:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:32 AM
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28. New campaign tune for Hillary: "End of the Line" by the Traveling Wilburys
Edited on Sat Mar-01-08 10:33 AM by TexasObserver
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:24 PM
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29. Bill's new whine: Obama is more experienced at running a campaign and being an elected official
Rounding out a long day of campaigning across Northern Ohio on Friday, the former president told audiences in small college gyms that he's still adjusting to life as a candidate's surrogate rather than as the candidate. "I always have a little trepidation at these events, but I love doing this because Hillary campaigned for me from 1974 until I left the White House," he told an audience in Wooster. "She never ran for public office until 2000, so as you can see I'm still a few years behind I'm trying to make up."

At his fifth and final event in New Philadelphia, Clinton broke away from the podium and was a bit more candid on the subject. "She never held any elected office, until she was elected to the senate in New York in 2000," he said. "She was a public servant all her life, but has a very unusual life and I think one of the most interesting misconceptions that is put out there is that somehow she is typical politician and her opponent, who's been in a lot more elections, is different. She is a lifetime public servant, but a recent elected official, and a darn good one."

Obama has run in six elections in the past 12 years, including his state senate days and a run for congress against Bobby Rush. This is Clinton's third race, including her two senate wins.

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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 03:25 PM
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35. Excuses make baby jeebus cry
really. how sad.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:33 PM
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30. The Clintons are desperate.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 02:25 PM
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32. Clinton supporter rips Texas caucus system
March 1, 2008

Clinton supporter rips Texas caucus system

Posted: 12:55 PM ET

SAN ANTONIO, Texas (CNN) – Former HUD secretary and Hillary Clinton supporter Henry Cisneros excoriated Texas’ arcane electoral process as “a great burden on voters” and said that losing the delegate count on Tuesday because of the state caucuses would be “exceedingly unfair.”

Cisneros was speaking to a group of Clinton volunteers who had gathered on Saturday morning at Fox Tech High School to train for Tuesday evening’s state caucuses, which follow a day of primary voting. One-third of the state’s pledged delegates are allocated through the caucuses, while the rest are determined by the day's primary vote.

Clinton herself rallied the troops after Cisneros, formerly a mayor of San Antonio, spoke.

“This is not the ideal way,” he told an audience made up of Clinton volunteers from 20 or so area counties. “Ideally it would just be a straight out vote, and that would determine who gets the delegates, but they created this intricate system in Texas, which frankly is a great burden on voters.”

Cisneros said a scenario in which Clinton wins the primary vote, but loses the evening caucuses, would be “exceedingly unfair” and warned against being “outpowered” by Barack Obama precinct teams, who have overwhelmed their Clinton counterparts in earlier caucus-based contests, outcomes he described as “tragic.”

As volunteers leafed through instructions on recruiting 25-member precinct teams, Cisneros told them, “we cannot throw away our hard work and our win by not being there at the caucuses.”


Let's play Calvinball!

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 03:28 PM
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38. For the next election, Democrats in every state should...
...let people vote from at least 7AM-8PM instead of the caucus-system where everyone is told to show up at once.

Telling everyone to show up at once means traffic jams and that there may not be enough room inside the building.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 03:36 PM
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41. How about letting the PEOPLE decide how they want to hold their elections?
What works in one state might not work in another.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 03:25 PM
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34. She's clearly UNPREPARED ON DAY #1.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 03:26 PM
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36. Can't win an election = can't lead the country in my book.
that's the way it is.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 03:29 PM
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39. So Bush is leading the country better than John Kerry would have? NT
NT
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 03:35 PM
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40. Bush didn't win in 2000 and didn't win in 2004 either.
Stealing elections is a whole other matter.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:02 PM
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42. Michael Dukakis would have been a better leader than George H. W. Bush. NT
NT
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:17 PM
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43. and she wants to be President?
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:46 PM
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44. Our only feedback doing Barack personal phone calls
Is that people are sick and tired of Hillary robocalls.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:16 AM
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45. The latest poll averages Ohio and Texas


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:09 PM
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46. Kathleen Sebelius in Ohio
Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius, a native of Cincinnati, held a town hall meeting with a group of local women at the Gateway Heath and Wellness Center in Columbus this morning. She spoke about Barack's commitment to standing up for working families, and working across party lines to get things done. She said:


There's never been a time when we needed an inspirational President more than now. Barack Obama has arrived on the scene at the right time. As an Illinois State Senator, he fought for issues involving working families, including healthcare and the Family and Medical Leave Act. When he talks about working across party lines, that's exactly what he did. He helped to pass the toughest election reform bill in Washington by working across the aisle.

...He has not only dreams and goals and plans, he follows them up with action. We need someone who can get results, and Barack Obama can get results as President of the United States.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/caitlinharvey/gGgVsW">link


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47. A sign in NY


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50. In Ohio, Hillary jumps on a Bush tactic: fake news.

Latest Clinton tactic: Fake news reports

The Clinton campaign's latest tactic in Ohio is, apparently, a radio ad that tries to make listeners think it's a news report until the very end.

Stuff like this, if it succeeds in fooling voters, fairly seriously pollutes the information environment by trying to steal the credibility of the news media and use it to present a biased, exagerrated set of facts. Why can't we rely on people who want to be president to not engage in the kind of creepy behavior that you teach your kids not to do?

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Script of Clinton Radio Ad Provided by Obama Campaign

This is an election news update with a major news story reported by the AP. While Senator Obama has crisscrossed Ohio giving speeches attacking NAFTA, his top economic advisor was telling the Canadians that was all just political maneuvering. A newly released document from the Canadian government shows that Obama’s senior economic advisor met with the Canadian Consul General and made clear that Obama’s attack on NAFTA were just, quote, “political maneuvering,” not policy. Political maneuvering, not policy. In fact, the document shows that Obama’s advisor also assured the Canadians that these attacks against NAFTA would not continue. Obama would not want to be, quote, “fundamentally changing the agreement.” As Senator Obama was telling one story to Ohio, his campaign was telling a very different story to Canada. How will Ohioans decide whether they can believe Senator Obama’s words? We’ll find that out on election day. Paid for by Hillary Clinton for President.


Hillary has gone completely Rovian


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51. Kick
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