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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:44 PM
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Int'l Incident: Offended Kenyans want apology from Clinton or they may fine her
(Keep in mind that the Clinton campaign has denied circulating the photo of Obama in question.)

NAIROBI (Reuters) - Kenyan elders may impose a fine on U.S. presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton, payable in livestock, after a photo of her rival Barack Obama in robes dragged their people into the race for the White House.

The picture, which appeared on a U.S. Web site, showed the Illinois senator in a white headdress and traditional Somali attire during a 2006 visit to Wajir in Kenya's remote northeast.

-snip

Wajir elders resolved to file an official complaint with the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi, dropping earlier plans to hold a protest after Friday prayers.

They said they would also convene a traditional Somali court to investigate the matter. It can impose fines that are payable in cattle, goats or camels.

"We will go ahead with this case whether Senator Clinton or Democratic party leaders turn up or not," said Mohamed Ibrahim, a member of the clan that hosted Obama during his trip. "But this whole thing can be avoided if only an apology is made."

The late father of the Democratic frontrunner was from western Kenya.

Many in the east African country support Obama the way the Irish idolized President John F. Kennedy in the 1960s -- as one of their own who succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

"The clan he was with have every right to be offended," said Hussein Ali, a 32-year-old unemployed man outside the main Jamia Mosque in the capital Nairobi.

"Obama's enemies are trying to portray him as a terrorist, saying all Muslims, and especially Somalis, are dangerous men."


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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080229/pl_nm/usa_politics_kenya_dc_2
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:46 PM
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1. Foriegn policy, ladies and gentlemen.
:rofl:
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:46 PM
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2. That cattle futures thing may finally come in handy
Hopefully she keeps a few heads in Chappequa
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:48 PM
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3. Oh this will fly
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:48 PM
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4. Way to go, Hillary! Can anyone give the lady a goat?
I love this story..LOL!!
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:48 PM
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5. Just don't send any "mad" cows over there, Hillary.
Here's guessing that would only send the problem from "bad" to "really bad".
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:09 PM
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30. OMG SEXIST
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:27 PM
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46. Sexist?
I don't understand... <shrug>
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:38 PM
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54. I think Occam's kidding.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:43 PM
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56. I think so too
I just don't get the joke.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:45 PM
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62. He's parodying the knee-jerk cry of sexism from many Hillary supporters here.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:50 PM
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6. Give them Mark Penn and Howard Wolfson
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 03:50 PM by Bleachers7
A pig and a weasel.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:52 PM
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10. LOL
NGU.


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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:13 PM
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35. LOL!
:rofl:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:50 PM
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7. But if she pays this fine in goats, what will she use for Chelsea's dowry?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:58 PM
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:18 PM
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39. Have we totally lost our sense of humor??
Geeez.....
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:21 PM
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41. Help! I can't figure out if my post is sexist, racist, or xenophobic.
(all three)
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:26 PM
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44. I think you hit the trifecta actually
But on a lighter note....Bravo!! (and well done)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:27 PM
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:28 PM
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48. Its a JOKE for crying out loud
In Kenya they have dowry's. Paid for with animals. And they're treating Senator Clinton as if she lives in Kenya! So.....

(sigh) forget it.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:24 PM
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42. WE?
You've been here for two whole weeks. Give it another couple of days before you lecture "us" about our sense of humor.
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:26 PM
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43. Sorry, but I thought the original post was hysterical
I will cease the inappropriate laughter immediately.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:41 PM
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55. HA! Welcome to DU, BigDaddy!
Josh Marshall at TPM had an interesting commentary a couple of days ago about how every runner up campaign ends up causing it's supporters despair. It's the very nature of being runner up (particularly with as strong a candidate as Clinton) to look like it's being run by the Keystone Cops. He also noted that nearly every winning campaign inevitably looks like it was run by brilliant people who did "everything" right and always took the long view.

Because of this, it's not surprising that a few (or, in this case, three) Clinton supporters would mistake an inoccuous joke as mean-spirited teasing. Shit, you shoulda seen me grousing about DU right after Wes Clark dropped out in 2004 (or kicking cans after Biden snuffed it six weeks ago).

FWIW, Democrats almost never nominate their frontrunner. In 1976 it was supposed to be Muskie. In 1988 it was supposed to be Gary Hart. In 1992 it was supposed to be Mario Cuomo. The only reason Kerry got the nomination was that he lost his frontrunner status so early on, he could actually come back and take the 'inevitable' mantle away from Howard Dean.
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:43 PM
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58. Thank you!
And for whats it worth, I think you didn't get hit so much by the Keystone Cops as you did the PC cops. AND, as a Delaware native, Biden was my guy too.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:06 PM
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28. Oh, Bucky. Please don't go there
Please edit it out. So not necessary.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:10 PM
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32. I hate right-wing shit coming out of horses ass.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:49 PM
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63. *snort*
:rofl:

Very good. :thumbsup:
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:52 PM
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8. Is there ANY evidence this
came from Clinton?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:55 PM
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12. No -- and, it was an already published photo
Ridiculous.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:59 PM
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16. I havent seen any but I dont like her " Not that I know of " answer.
By the time the debate happened she should have had that thoroughly investigated to make sure it didn't come from her camp. Her and Bill are powerful people with connections and you would think that they would have contacted the people making the accusation to clear things up. I hope that most people really don't fall for any of that type of campaign garbage, stop all the games, give the public facts not partial facts and let us decide.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:11 PM
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33. If they aren't able to determine
who it came from, people should not be blaming Hillary. Do people really think it's beyond the pukes to try and cause even more infighting amongst democrats while smearing the likely candidate?
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 06:36 PM
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67. I'm not saying to blame her, with the dirty mudslinging that we all...
call politics, I would rather someone say we've looked into our camp and no one in our camp did it. It just doesn't look good when someone in politics says " not that I know of ". It reminds me of so many politicians speaking under oath and saying " I don't recall " to everything that means anything. I think when we are talking about the wealthy powerful people that control our childrens future, they should be certain instead of just "not that I know of". We deserve to know facts so we can decide who will be the best candidate to help our children and grandchildren when we have passed. For me, it doesn't give me confidence in them.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:37 PM
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53. Thank you.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:15 PM
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38. No, but there is no evidence that it didn't come from her camp.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:19 PM
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40. Did you mean that to
sound as stupid as it does?
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:34 PM
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51. I've got your stupid. I said exactly what I meant to say.
Unless your ass has been living under a rock this past week, you would know that the Clinton campaign could NOT emphatically deny it. You know, they have such a large staff, etc., etc., etc., etc.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:36 PM
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52. So NO evidence
gotcha
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:09 PM
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60. Gotcha???
:rofl:
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:52 PM
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9. Hillary, it's the ambassador to Kenya..yeah it's 3AM, but he needs some goats..it's urgent!! n/t
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 03:53 PM by tokenlib
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:56 PM
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13. Hey, with the declining value of our dollar
I'd take livestock rather than dollars any day.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:00 PM
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18. LOL
:thumbsup:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:55 PM
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11. the key is the last line posted
Anti-Muslim prejudice is systematically encouraged and the prejudice is being spread in the US. Mosques are being firebombed and individual Muslims have been terrorized and threatened.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:56 PM
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14. What will the Obama campaign come up with next.....
guess they will try anything.:rofl:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:00 PM
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17. Clinton campaign now accepting donations of goats, cattle
and camels. :evilgrin:

Feed too.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:01 PM
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19. Let's see. She's called Putin soulless and now this. Way to piss other countries off Hillary!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:03 PM
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23. Dammit. Sorry for Xeroxing you.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:06 PM
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27. YOU FUCKING PLAGIARIST PIECE OF DOGSHIT.
Oh yeah, you're sexist too! :P
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 06:56 PM
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68. Displaying her Foreign Relations experience.
She's not even President yet, and already she's making enemies. She makes Junior look good.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:02 PM
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20. Dear Wajiri leaders: just put some kind of tribal hex on her for Tuesday
that would work too. Thanks!

:rofl:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:03 PM
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21. Man. First you insult Putin, now Kenya. What sterling foreign-policy expertise.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:03 PM
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22. what a FARCE ............ ROFLMAO.
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 04:29 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:04 PM
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24. So, are those smilies laughing at
the Kenyans who are offended at Hillary's cultural insensitivity? Or are they laughing at the fact that you think that "farse" is a word?
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:07 PM
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29. !
:popcorn:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:29 PM
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49. yeah .....erm...... that too
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:50 PM
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64. I'm laughing too: It's more bad press for Hillary
This story is everywhere, and it cements what people already believe: that the Clinton campaign sent the pic out. And that's great!
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:05 PM
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25. Funniest Thread Of The Day
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:




K&R
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:06 PM
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26. "Ready from day 1..."
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:09 PM
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31. what's their beef?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:11 PM
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34. "US-Kenyan relationships further deteriorated after Senator Clinton
sent Special Ambassador Gary Hart to negotiate a payment."
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:15 PM
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37. Maybe Hillary Got Their Goat?
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:13 PM
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36. OMG, that will devastate her campaign! She can't afford a terrible mistake
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 04:14 PM by elixir
like this, do you know how much it will cost in legal fees to fight this PR nightmare?...why...oh..what's that..oh,..nevermind. It's just another Obama fairytale.

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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:28 PM
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47. This just in: Kenya doesn't matter
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:34 PM
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50. Shades of the Danish Mohammed cartoons. These guys aren't doing
Obama any favours.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:43 PM
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57. We don't have no goats ...
will they take Republicans?

:hi:
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:44 PM
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59. Hillary can pay in bullshit; she has a lot of it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:20 PM
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61. Law of Unintended Consequences..
That's the problem with trying trying to screw someone over to get what you want, hilary.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:51 PM
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65. OMG I thought this was satire until I saw the Yahoo news link
:wow:
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 06:04 PM
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66. Where did our tin-foil hats go?
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 06:16 PM by LiberalAndProud
Make believe you are Rove or Cheney or some other right wing thug and you want to get this image into the mainstream media because you want the whole country to swallow it in one big swig. If you are wiley and slimy, you realize that sending out a presser get the word out would be seen as tacky and ... underhanded and overtly racist. It would be bad form for the Republicans to actually LOOK racist.

Hmmm.... what to do, what to do?

Well golly gee whiz, let's torpedo both of them! It has been reported that Senator Clinton unwisely made friendly overtures to the very man who slimed her husband with the Monica muck. I wonder if that tool might actually LIE or something?

Please consider the source. If we're not a little cautious, we'll end up dancing on the grave of your White House aspirations in 2008.
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:02 PM
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69. Kick for the most imspirational post of the day! n/t
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