This picture of a Texas Obama rally is CRAZY with that many people

[bigdarryl]

it looks like a crowd at a sporting event DAMN!! it was estimated at 10,000 plus
2301425088_5cab2d9ac4_b.jpg (JPEG Image, 1024x418 pixels)

[Eric J in MN]

1. Has John McCain had any rallies this cycle with 10,000 or more people? NT

NT

[bigdarryl]

5. shit has Hillary had large crowds like this

[Bongo Prophet]

38. But it's PHOTOSHOPPED!!!! Heh, actually, it is. I made a composite from 2 pics to get panavision...

Did that this morning - I locked my arms and swiveled, since I had no tripod, then matched up the rows and cropped it clean - the 3rd shot didn't come out - I wanted a full pan, darn it. Too blurry.
Props to fellow DUer MagickMuffin, who let me use her cam.
Thanx Muffin! :hi:
Also met fellow DUer RufusEarl, who is relly cool guy - and his lovely partner. Great people!

Amazing night it was, BD.

Here is another that MM took.

[sloppyjoe25s]

61. nice job on the panavision

it gives a real perspective on the size of the thing...thanks for taking the time!

[workinclasszero]

50. No Hillary hates big crowds....

Because only Obama gets them.

Remember what she shrieked in Ohio? "Enough with the big rallies and speeches!".:eyes:

[yourguide]

77. enough with all the big rallies and the speeches...

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Exultant Democracy]

7. links? I find it hard to believe that McCain is pulling in that many more supporters then Clinton

to his rallies.

[Ichingcarpenter]

12. Sardonic humor

Conservatives lack that one.

[Ichingcarpenter]

10. Crowds, words and votes

don't count

Just give me a debate in OHIO.

upps....

[Tellurian]

15. Jimmy Swaggert and Rev Moon attract the same big crowds...

frequented by similarly profiled attendees. People with serious personality flaws looking to fill a void as here seen in epidemic proportions..

[tabasco]

24. Like the void between your ears.

[Tellurian]

26. The profundity of BO supporters is underwhelming..

zzzzzz!

[psychopomp]

34. You mean people like Naomi Wolfe?

Yeah, I think we are in good company.

[chknltl]

46. Didn't know that...thanks

Having Naomi Wolfe's endorsement...WOW!

[Tellurian]

55. OB supporters always in the throws of an identity crisis..

Naomi Wolf...:rofl: "Little Miss Pravda"...

A CBS analyst had this to say about Naomi Wolf:

"Wolf is a "lightweight" ("She was too lightweight even for the lightweight magazine George, for heaven's sakes!") and decreed that she's "a Seventeen magazine level of thinker."

Also that her parents should seek a refund from Yale University because she failed to learn the basics of a college education... like "Critical thinking" skills.

[chknltl]

68. Thanks for the unsolicited attack...real smart that!

So what do you call someone who performs an unsolicited attack on a fellow DUer. (note the "." instead of a "?") Suggesting that I have an identity crises and laughing about it is nothing less than an unproductive negative attack. This is supposed to help me support your candidate HOW???? Your candidate must love it when folks go out of their way to piss off potential supporters. I'll bet Senator mCcain approves of your antic.

Maybe some of my fellow DUers need 4 MORE YEARS in order to figure this out. ....not sure if the majority of this planet can wait that long though. I am out of patience with those folks who sit in our White House...the fact that you are a DUer suggests that we share in that...(although I am hard pressed to convince myself of that at this moment)

I'll try nicely: The world needs an end to the Republicans running the White House and being in control of the greatest arsenal this planet has ever seen. The Democrats have a chance to do something about it. Stop acting like a repuke and join us. Support your candidate and I'll support mine. Our candidates need US to be there for them right now! When the time comes we will need each other, you can count on me to be there for whichever Democrat gets the nomination. It would be nice if you could say the same. Taking pot shots at your fellow DUers only undermines your candidates chances. At the very least: Stop making the repukes happy please.

A fellow fighter for Democracy in America.
JOIN US

[greguganus]

76. Please tell me you will be going back in your hole when Hillary is through embarassing herself! n/t

[D23MIURG23]

85. Speaking of lightweights...

[Window]

48. SH.. supporters never cease to amaze me.

That is Senator Hillary.

[grantcart]

33. 100 hours + 7 days

[Bongo Prophet]

51. I was there, and took the original photo. Families, old, young, multicultural mix of HUMANS

The woman in front of us was a science teacher with her 3 kids and husband - working on her masters degree...
The woman behind was a retiree, and very nice.
The couple behind them drove up from Houston.

Very diverse crowd. Very friendly.
Nice people.

Smart, funny and polite.
Unlike some who want to be negative and insulting all the time.

And no, these were not a Swaggart crowd or a Rev Moon crowd.
Of course, you know that.
You are just being tiresome - but thanks for kicking the thread.

[totodeinhere]

57. They don't look like "People with serious personality flaws" to me.

Jealous Clinton supporters don't cease to amaze me.

[cali]

53. bwahahaha

you are good for a bit of comic relief. The crap you spew is so ignorant and desperate, it's like it's a spoof. I love it.

[backscatter712]

62. You know what the best thing is about the Hillary is 44 logo?

It makes it easy as pie to figure out who to put on ignore!

[anigbrowl]

69. By the way, am I the only person who thinks it looks like a bandaid?

Just wondering. I kept think that was what it was when I came to DU. It took me a whole to go...oh yeah, it's pink, she's female...OK.

But I still think it looks like a bandaid. Maybe it's just my monitor.

[PITBOS]

63. this is how HRC supporters roll. Why she needs to be stopped.

remember this when you support Obama.

[Zachstar]

64. Posting crap like that Tellurian, will not win voters over to Clinton just so you know.

And if Texans are reading such you may be directly aiding to a loss of a few votes for her.

[Forkboy]

72. People have been telling him that since last Spring.

He's been Obama's best friend here on DU.

[rucky]

65. maybe you could teach us some social skills. n/t

[apocalypsehow]

70. And, of course, you have both the academic credentials AND the provable data, as done in clinical

testing, to substantiate these extraordinary charges of yours, right? Right? Do go right ahead and share the results of these tests you have conducted that prove these claims - I'll be waiting right here while you post them.

[JI7]

22. McCain events can fit inside a restaurant

[Bongo Prophet]

39. But OHHH, the salad bars! The muzak!

:):):):):)

[roguevalley]

80. if you count them all to date and multiply by four, maybe. :)

[Tarheel_Dem]

2. k&r....

:wow:

[AgadorSparticus]

3. good lord!! That is AMAZING!!

[texas_indy]

4. Excellent picture! Texas is joining Obama on 3/4!! (nt)

[HCE SuiGeneris]

6. It scares me. It's a cult!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

Nice to see the electorate engaged.

K & R

[theboss]

8. My God...this is bigger than high school football

Ok...let's not get crazy.

But still....

[babylonsister]

9. It's a cult! Don't believe it! Walk away! Where was this and when?

I'm not impressed.


Ha! :D

[MagickMuffin]

18. Fort Worth aka Cowtown, I was there baby

Bongo Prophet took the picture.

According to an article 10,000 in the arena with an additional 10,000 in another part of the Convention Center.

[babylonsister]

21. Holy whatever is holy to whomever! Wow. His message

is powerful!

[FrenchieCat]

11. But what's more, I heard thousands in overflow!

Because the Fort Worth campaign committee didn't want to turn people away, Obama supporters had to be directed to an overflow section that fit about 10,000, said Leslie McClinton, a campaign volunteer.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/29/politics/uwire/main3894879.shtml

Good story on this rally here.... http://www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=717370

[Emit]

28. So they had 10K in and 10K in an overflow area?

All I can say is :wow:

[BenDavid]

13. well the sun will rise and the sun will set without any assistance

from mr obama.....

[HCE SuiGeneris]

17. and your repetitious drone will accompany it...

alas

[alphafemale]

19. And he'll win the election without any assistance from you...obviously.

Have a nice day,

[VolcanoJen]

29. And Bush will claim that he's kept us safe since 9/11.

The "sun" argument isn't especially effective.

[grantcart]

35. the sun doesn't rise or set, the earth turns. In 4 more rotations he will be

the party's nominee and then you will have 7 more turns to vent your hostility.

[JackORoses]

37. The Sun will Rise, and Hillary can do nothing to stop it

[oasis]

14. Wow, the Kool-Aid vendors must've made a fortune.

:wow:

[Ichingcarpenter]

42. Hillary has made a new video against this

showing when you have a lot of people showing up at a rally,
supporting a candidate.

that is something that should FRIGHTEN you.

Those wake up calls are FRIGHTENING.

[VolcanoJen]

16. Shame on you, Barack Obama! Enough about the big speeches, and the rallies.

}(

Goddamn that is a sweet photo. :-)

[Bongo Prophet]

41. PM me if you want the original - it was too big to upload. I can send you a URL.

Fullsize is 2716 x 1109 -- could be used as a dual monitor desktop pic...

[rucky]

66. We need a president who won't attract so many people. n/t

[writes3000]

20. Clearly, pictures like these scare the crap out of some people

Because they were curious/haunted enough to look and now they can't help but try to piss on it. ALL of these people have serious personality defects just because they're here. Really? What a lame accusation.

[kster]

31. I do not like Obama, but these pics definitely scare the crap

out of the people in charge of making our election's "appear close" to avoid starting a civil war, Obama even though he still remains silent on the secret vote count scam, will make it easy for those of us that are trying to expose the secret vote count scam machines.

Go Obanma!!! :)

[FrenchieCat]

36. WTF? Barack will do what's needed on election reform ASAP....He's already tried!

OBAMA'S US SENATE RECORD:

S.1975 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 11/8/2005) Cosponsors (4)
Committees: Senate Rules and Administration
Latest Major Action: 11/8/2005 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration.

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S.4102 : A bill to amend the Communications Act of 1934 to prohibit the use of telecommunications devices for the purposes of preventing or obstructing the broadcast or exchange of election-related information.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 12/7/2006) Cosponsors (None) Committees: Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation
Latest Major Action: 12/7/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation.
--------------------

S.4069 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 11/16/2006) Cosponsors (4)
Committees: Senate Rules and Administration
Latest Major Action: 11/16/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration.
--------------------

Obama's Rewards

13,000 a year, plus $2,000 for a car--a beat-up blue Honda Civic, which Obama drove for the next three years organizing more than twenty congregations to change their neighborhoods.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070416/moberg

Obama's organizing history may give few clues about what policies he would pursue as President, but Obama the presidential candidate still shows his roots--a faith in ordinary citizens, a quest for common ground and a pragmatic inclination toward defining issues in winnable ways.

Even when Obama was an organizer, Augustine-Herron told him he would be the nation's first black President. Now the Rev. Alvin Love, whom Obama recruited to DCP, looks at his candidacy and says, "Everything I see reflects that community organizing experience. I see the consensus-building, his connection to people and listening to their needs and trying to find common ground. I think at his heart Barack is a community organizer. I think what he's doing now is that. It's just a larger community to be organized."
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070416/moberg

What Obama has done in the past, not including what he has done thus far during the primaries; bringing new voters into the frey.


Vote of Confidence
A huge black turnout in November 1992 altered Chicago's electoral landscape—and raised a new political star: a 31-year-old lawyer named Barack Obama.

In the final, climactic buildup to November's general election, with George Bush gaining ground on Bill Clinton in Illinois and the once-unstoppable campaign of senatorial candidate Carol Moseley Braun embroiled in allegations about her mother's Medicare liability, one of the most important local stories managed to go virtually unreported: The number of new voter registrations before the election hit an all-time high. And the majority of those new voters were black. More than 150,000 new African-American voters were added to the city's rolls. In fact, for the first time in Chicago's history-including the heyday of Harold Washington-voter registrations in the 19 predominantly black wards outnumbered those in the city's 19 predominantly white ethnic wards, 676,000 to 526,000.

None of this, of course, was accidental. The most effective minority voter registration drive in memory was the result of careful handiwork by Project Vote!, the local chapter of a not-for-profit national organization.

"It was the most efficient campaign I have seen in my 20 years in politics," says Sam Burrell, alderman of the West Side's 29th Ward and a veteran of many registration drives.

At the head of this effort was a little-known 31-year-old African-American lawyer, community organizer, and writer: Barack Obama.

To understand the full implications of Obama's effort, you first need to understand how voter registration often has worked in Chicago. The Regular Democratic Party spearheaded most drives, doing so using one primary motivator: money. The party would offer bounties to registrars for every new voter they signed up (typically a dollar per registration).

The campaigns did produce new voters. "But bounty systems don't really promote participation," says David Orr, the Cook County clerk, whose office is responsible for voter registration efforts in the Cook County suburbs. "When the money dries up, the voters drop out." Nor did the Democratic Party always vigorously push registration among minorities, Orr says. "It's not that they discouraged it. They just never worked hard to ensure it would happen."
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/January-1993/Vote-of-Confidence

-----------------------
Project Vote is the voter-mobilization arm of ACORN. It is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization whose professed purpose is to carry out "non-partisan" voter registration drives; to counsel voters on their rights; and to litigate on behalf of voting rights -- focusing on the rights of the poor and the "disenfranchised."

Project Vote’s major program areas include the following:

Voter Participation Program: “, Project Vote has helped more than 4 million Americans in low-income and minority neighborhoods register to vote, including 1.1 million in 2003-04. In the same period, Project Vote reached more than 2.3 million low-income and minority voters to educate them about the importance of voting. Our methodology is based on face-to-face contact between voters and trusted community messengers, generally a representative of a local community organization.”

Election Administration Program: “ encompasses every aspect of election implementation, from voter registration application design to voting booth placement to vote counting and everything in between. Working in neighborhoods nationwide, Project Vote documents voting problems and works closely with elections officials, secretaries of state, and state legislators to enact proactive, pragmatic solutions. A central component of our work is the inclusion of low-income and minority voters through the involvement of our community partners.”

NVRA Implementation Project: “ partnership between Project Vote, ACORN and Demos aims to improve voter registration services at public assistance agencies. Section 7 of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 requires states to offer voter registration to public assistance clients upon application, recertification or renewal, and change of addresses. The Project ... offers technical assistance.” The National Voting Rights Institute and the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law have recently become co-administrators of this initiative.

The stated purpose of Project Vote is to work within the system, using conventional voter mobilization drives and litigation to secure the rights of minority and low-income voters under the U.S. Constitution. However, the organization's actions indicate that its true agenda is to overwhelm, paralyze, and discredit the voting system through fraud, protests, propaganda and vexatious litigation. In this respect, Project Vote is following the so-called "crisis strategy" or Cloward-Piven Strategy pioneered during the Sixties by Columbia University political scientists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6966

The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, is the nation's oldest and largest grassroots organization of low and moderate income people with over 200,000 members in over 90 cities. For 35 years, ACORN members have been organizing in their neighborhoods across the country around local issues such as affordable housing, safety, education, improved city services, and have taken the lead nationally on issues of affordable housing, tenant organizing, fighting banking and insurance discrimination, organizing workfare workers, and winning jobs and living wages.

Over the last decade, ACORN chapters have been involved in over fifteen living wage campaigns in our own cities, leading coalitions that have won living wage or minimum wage ordinances in St. Louis, St. Paul, Minneapolis, Boston, Oakland, Denver, Chicago, Cook County, New Orleans, Detroit, New York City, Long Island, Sacramento and San Francisco.

In addition, we have led coalitions to win statewide minimum wage increases in five states - including the huge 71% ballot victory in Florida in November 2004 - which delivered a raise to an estimated 850,000 workers. ACORN is following up that exciting victory by promoting a National Campaign to Raise the Minimum Wage through states and cities. This campaign includes cutting edge efforts to win citywide minimum wage increases - as well as ambitious statewide minimum wage ballot initiatives in the battleground states of OH, MO, AZ and CO for November 2006.

In 1998, ACORN established the Living Wage Resource Center to track the living wage movement and provide materials and strategies to living wage organizers all over the country.
http://www.livingwagecampaign.org /

THINGS WE THOUGHT NEVER COULD, CAN CHANGE!
....AND ELECTION REFORM IS ONLY ONE OF THEM!


WE CAN DO THIS IF WE WANT TO!

[kster]

44. Obama along with all the other candidates REMAIN SILENT

when it comes to the vote/count scam you know it and I know it. Give me all the links you want, but the fact remains that ALL THE ILLUSIONIST/PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES need to be arrested, for playing along with the fake election scam. PERIOD

[Hekate]

47. You're unhinged, right? All our Dem prez candidates need to be arrested?

"Give me all the links you want, but..." -- meaning don't confuse you with facts?

Obama is clearly on to the problem, and clearly has been working on it. I find that encouraging.

Hekate

[Kittycat]

23. Enough with the BIg Speeches & Rallies...

All events that qualify should be held in H.S. gymnasiums.

[JimGinPA]

25. He's Doing Two Or Three Of These A Day - Damn!

:applause:

[madrchsod]

27. well i guess someone wants to hear what he has to say.....

10,000+ someones is really impressive

[Bongo Prophet]

52. MagickMuffin looked it up - the place officially seats 11,200 NOT counting the floor

So we underestimated - if 11,200 seats when used for sports, then add the floor people AND the estimated 10k in the overflow.
It could be more like 20-21,000.

At any rate, a whole lotta people.

[TexasObserver]

30. One Picture is worth more than 1000 excuses.

Obama has supporters.

Hillary has excuses for losing.

[gateley]

32. Drat - missed it. But it reminds me of another gathering I WAS at:

(Can you see me?)

[Vinca]

56. Wow - that takes me back. I saw "the boys" in Chicago and Cleveland.

Those were the days . . .

[Scurrilous]

40. Great pic.

:kick:

[Peace Patriot]

43. That looks like way more than 10,000 people to me. I rough-count about 7,000

visible in the photo, and, unless all the seats we can't see are empty, the total rough count would be 14-15,000, and I would guess it's more. I counted an average of 500 per section (some sections are bigger than others, and some are wedge-shaped--500 is a rough average), and about a thousand visible on the floor. But it looks like we're only seeing half the floor crowd. Also, the picture looks distorted, like what we are seeing is less than half of the crowd in the stadium seats. Depends on how long the stadium is versus width. Am I wrong? Could be 20,000. Who did the estimate?

Edit: Just saw the comment upthread that said there were 10,000 MORE people somewhere else in the stadium. So we're talking MINIMUM 20,000, and probable 25,000 to 30,000--if my estimates are in the ballpark (so to speak).

To those who disparage such rallies--and compare them to Beatles concerts (and, really, there never was ever anything to match Beatles concerts for the utter madness of that moment in time)--this is not a concert; it is not a sports event; it is not recreation; it is a POLITICAL RALLY. This means that people who work two jobs for a living, and/or care for others all day, or all week, and have busy, stressed lives, took the trouble to get out of the house, arrange child care, forgo relaxation and rest, and spent $4 a gallon for gas, and accepted all the inconveniences of being in a big crowd, to hear a POLITICIAN. That means they're SERIOUS about their politics, about their civic duties, and voting, and participating, and they see Obama as connected to--as an expression of--their concern and their activism. That is no little thing. That is amazing, especially in the general context of repeated events like this, hugely successful voter registration, and the very big voter turnouts we are seeing. The enthusiasm is being translated into action--or is the result of action. People feel empowered. And whatever happens--whether Obama wins the nomination or Clinton does, and whether either of them wins in November--and I think we need to be very aware that rightwing voting machine corporations STILL have the EASY capability of stealing elections--this kind of turnout and activism IS the beginning of American Revolution II. It takes more than a president to reform a country. It takes the whole country. And that is what we are seeing the beginning of--the rousing of the whole country. It is a beautiful thing to behold. WHATEVER happens, THIS is what is needed, in the long term, to correct this country's course.

[FrenchieCat]

45. It is supposed to only hold 10,005....but I'm not sure if that counts

the floor space which was packed. I have to imagine that the fire marshalls were the ones counting.

And yes, every seat was taken, because it is said that there was a 10,000 flow over crowd in another area!

[MagickMuffin]

49. I was there, in fact Bongo Prophet took the pic and yes it has a large part not visible

BP took several shots and composited them together, his last shot didn't turn out, it was blurry and he decided not to use it.


The Fort Worth Convention Center (formerly known as the Tarrant County Convention Center), is a convention center and indoor arena in Fort Worth, Texas. It includes an 11,200-SEAT multi-purpose arena (( this does not include the floor ))

The line outside stretched for several blocks and into the Fort Worth Water Gardens.

To view floor plans you can see it at link.

http://www.fortworthgov.org/publicevents/info/default.aspx?id=5724&ekmensel=1774_submenu_4006_link_3


Also as a side note the Fort Worth Convention Center is located across the street from where JFK spent his last night on this earth.

"There are no faint hearts in Fort Worth'' - President John F. Kennedy, November 22, 1963.

8000 people gathered outside in the light rainfall to hear President Kennedy. Actor Bill Paxton was one of the kids who got to see JFK.

[Bongo Prophet]

54. Hey peacePatriot - the Arena site lists 11,200 seats, and yes, I only pointed at about 2/3 of it.

I tried to get a full pan, but the last was blurry, and I was 2 sections from the front on the right side of stage.
There were NO empty sections - they packed us in section by section.
And the 11,200 is for SEATS - so the floor/rink area would be an addition to that.

I would estimate about 2-300 behind me and to the right(above and below) in that top shot - look at pic on post 38 for a shot straight across to the other side.
So really, it is more than originally posted in the paper.
I used to guess crowd sizes as a kid at sports events - I think you are close or just a tiny bit over - but then I had to rethink it upwards, once I saw the official seat number.
Of course, I never even knew about the overflow when we were there.

It is the new lifeblood of democracy there- a wide cross section, from working class to college student to professionals - though not enough of the "North Side" hispanic community, or East FW asian community (our neighborhood, mostly thai/Laotian/viet) - but maybe we will get there yet. Might have been a different mix in the overflow, as they got off work later, or ate dinner beforehand.

Point taken about the voting problems - luckily early voting helps with avoiding major probs on election day, but whether they are counted, who knows.

The demographic changes re on our side - the old divisions are crumbling - and the trendlines are looking good. We just need to follow through to keep the new voters from getting jaded, and they'll be active for life. Follow through is EVERYTHING.

[Bongo Prophet]

59. Here's the seating chart - I estimated the area covered by the photo

Just happened to have it in a tab, so tossed it in PShop and made the photo area shaded pink. Section 307 to 317.
I was in 302, a little less than halfway up.

Not that important, but I thought since I had the thing - some may want to quibble on size, or just be curious about it. Kicks the thread for morning crowd too.
I saw George Harrison and ravi Shankar there back in 76 or so...bit of trivia there.
Probably still some resin on the roof that I contributed that night.
Funny, it doesn't seem round when you are in it. ;)

[Peace Patriot]

67. Thanks! So, in the photo, we're looking at 8-9,000. I undercounted them,

just based on capacity (11,000-plus), which I didn't know--but I think I overcounted, based on guess at the remaining seats (out of view), and I think I presumed the floor was longer. 11,000-plus in the seats, and about 1,500 on the floor seems about right, now that I look at the chart. So, 12,500 in the main stadium--plus all those folks who were given closed circuit TV view elsewhere. It's looking like about 22,000. And we don't know how many might've been turned away. Lordy--and in a Republican county! That is exciting!

[yellowdogintexas]

58. Ft Worth Convention Center! anyone who has attended state Demo Conv in FW

when it rotates here, that is the spot. Packed it. and used the overflow room for a closed circuit broadcast too.
I couldn't get there, but am thrilled to see this huge crowd in this heavily Repub county.


WOW

[doublethink]

60. .............

:kick:

[Wayjose]

78. Texas does not count anymore. It's Rhode Island, stupid!

[KLee]

71. OMG

I am impressed at all the "duped" people, I didn't realize the situation was that bad.

:sarcasm:

[Cha]

75. They have nothing to counteract so

they feign stupid..or are they?

[grantcart]

81. When you can no longer tell if it is parody or news

Onion or CNN

I dunno what to say


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4830347

[Forkboy]

73. I won't believe it until I've gotten a certain someone's traffic report.

:yoiks:

[Debi]

74. OMG

:rofl:

[sniffa]

79. ....

:rofl:

[casus belli]

82. Meanwhile somewhere else, Hillary begins to hear the Celestial Choir. n/t

[stillcool]

83. it's truly amazing..

to see that many people willing to go stand in line and wait, just to sit down and listen to a political speaking event. The times they are a changin..

Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'.
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'.
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'.--Bob Dylan

[bigbrother05]

84. Great Pics. thanks for posting