Reuters/CSpan/Zogby: Obama holds small lead in TX, ties Clinton in Ohio!

[usregimechange]

...Clinton leads by a scant one percent among Texas women, but the race is also close among Texas men, where Obama leads by just 5%, much less than in some earlier states in this epic Democratic Party battle. As has been the case elsewhere, Clinton leads among older voters, but Obama leads big among younger Texas Democrats. Clinton had a big day Friday in the Zogby call center, leading Obama by double-digits in the Texas survey. She retains a significant lead among Hispanic voters there, a key demographic in the Democratic primary...

In Ohio, the two Democrats have drawn dead-even to the tenth of a percent (44.8% each), as Clinton continued to show strength in northern Ohio outside Cleveland, but trailed Obama badly in northeast Ohio and in burgeoning central Ohio, where the capital city of Columbus is home to many state government workers. Clinton leads in the more sparsely-populated, less affluent southern Ohio region. She also retains a small lead among Catholics, an important voting bloc in this Rust Belt state.

http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1458

[Johnny__Motown]

1. LOL...... not gonna call this one. That way they can't be wrong. kinda sad

[bigdarryl]

2. I heard Zogby on C-SPAN this morning saying the increase in men support from Clinton is...

Latino men. So there aren't any white men or black men in TX i guess. It looks like Zogby is relying to heavely on the latino population when hes polling TX.I wonder if this polling includes the Caucus

[Thurston Howell III]

3. I think in Texas it will be Obama by 10 points.

Ohio Obama by 5 points. VT Obama 60+ Hllary 40-. R.I. Hillary by 5 points.

[tekisui]

5. I think you'll be close to right.

Watch RI, it's closing too.

[Thurston Howell III]

9. I'm being conservative on R.I. It could be closer or a slight Obama win.

Regardless, she's gone. The SDs are not going to save her.

[Lucinda]

4. Well its Zogby, so its pretty worthless, but I like the sound of this:

"Clinton had a big day Friday in the Zogby call center, leading Obama by double-digits in the Texas survey."

[Skip Intro]

7. I like the sound of that too. nt

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

6. I Still Find Myself Amazed That With His Huge Momentum/Media Advantage, That It's Still Competitive.

I think that says a lot about Hillary actually, and is a testament that she ain't so bad herself.

With the huge momentum he's been rolling on for quite some time now, the media support he's received, and the amount of money he's spent, I really expected that by the end of this week he would've been comfortably ahead. The fact he isn't, shows in my opinion that Hillary is quite the fighter herself.

[bigdarryl]

8. no i think its the fact that the LATINOS don't vote for black candidates and

in every state that has a large Latino population she does very well. if TX didn't have a large population that race wouldn't be close.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

13. Yawn.

[skipos]

14. I still find it impressive that a few short weeks ago she lead the polls almost everywhere by 10-30%

and has managed to blow it.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

15. That's The Way Momentum Works, Especially When The Media Is In Full Force.

In the primaries, things change and can change rapidly. Obamania took off like wildfire and the media helped perpetuate that. Once it started, the wagon jumpers came out in force. That's natural though, and usually the way it works with such momentum. But it's been quite some time now since that ball's been rolling, so it's way about time you let go of that whole 'weeks ago' thing. The whole landscape has changed since then, and the media has done everything they could to wipe her out completely since. Keep up with the times, will ya?

So after all that, after the snowball effect, huge momentum, media bias, bandwagon jumpers, and everything else that's happened over those weeks, she's still competitive in those states. That does surprise me, and I think absolutely is a testament to her staying power and ability. I'm proud of her for hanging in there as tight as she is. I expected him to have those states quite comfortably in his pocket by now.

[skipos]

19. The media told me she would be our nominee for months

Even Chris Matthews would ask his panel "who will the GOP run against Hillary?" He, and most of the media, acted like it was a done deal. They joined Clinton Inc, in claiming she was "inevitable."

Then people voted and the coronation didn't go like they hoped.

The good thing for Hillary and the media is... I have heard that if Obama doesn't sweep Tuesday, there is a "problem" with his camaign. Anything less than a 15 state winning streak is a loss for him. Hillary and the media still have a chance to pull this off.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

20. My God Are You Stuck In The Past. Learn To Change Gears For God's Sake.

I'm like, talking about the now and stuff. Try and keep up, ok? :hi:

[skipos]

24. Yes, we should ignore that the media was telling us Hillary was inevitable

just as we should ignore that pesky IWR vote, and how great she thought NAFTA was. It is all about what Hillary says now, not her past actions! It is amazing that she is polling even in Texas, she has always been the underdog there! It is amazing that she is 5% up in Ohio, she has always been the underdog there!
:woohoo:

Is that better?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

26. So Silly.

Keep up with the times. You're stuck in a gear. Things change, and change rapidly. Your response was all sorts of nonsensical and silly to me. I mean, here you are supporting the 'fresh' candidate, yet your outlook is so, like, ya know, stale. :hi:

[skipos]

28. I am trying my best to be a Hillary supporter

I am sorry it isn't good enough for you.

IF WE DON'T ELECT HILLARY, OUR CHILDREN WILL DIE AT 3AM!

Is that better? Come on, help me out here.

[bigbrother05]

64. Yeah, the now stuff... HRC clinging to a lead against a strong BHO finish

Start with a 20 point lead and try to run out the clock. Good luck with that.

[adoraz]

16. where you you been prior to last week?

you don't find it amazing that in Ohio and Texas Obama has eliminated 20 point plus leads?

wow. I don't care how much of a money advantage they had, that is amazing.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

17. I Find It A Bit Surprising That He Doesn't Have Them Comfortably In His Pocket Yet.

With obamania reaching the fevered pitches it has, the media 100% in his corner, and Hillary having all the odds stacked against her, I really did think that by the end of this week, he'd have both of them comfortably in his pocket. I'm really surprised he hasn't in fact. But there are a few days to go, and it very well may still be a comfortable margin he wins by in both come Tuesday. But if he doesn't, and she wins, I'll give her all the credit in the world for having hung in there.

[adoraz]

22. well if he did have it in his pocket that would really say something about Hillary supporters

that the majority of them could change sides so easily.

spin it however way you want, but all it is is denial.

The lead that Obama has cut down in such a short period is absolutely amazing, even if he had spent twice as much on advertising than he has.

Just because you advertise, that doesn't mean much.

Just ask Romney and McCain.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

25. Don't Ever Underestimate The Power Of The Bandwagon.

You seem to be making this huge mistake in your logic by assuming those polled would be firm supporters of either candidate, when in reality the more rabid supporters make up only a small percentage of the overall populace. The majority of voters are generally more independent minded, and can very easily be swayed to jump on a bandwagon. That's politics, and it's the way it's always been. So no, that wouldn't say anything about her supporters whatsoever.

And I did, truly, expect him to have a comfortable lead in both of those states by now. It really seemed to be where it was heading. But she's held her ground well, and I'm proud of her for it. It's a testament to her in my opinion.

[adoraz]

39. lmao, spin it however you want

I know I'm right.

You couldn't be anymore in denial by trying to make double digit loses (now a tie) into something positive, especially in absolutely must win situations for her.

[StrongBad]

67. I'm an Obama supporter and I'll admit that the media has been pretty kind to him since Iowa

But the fact is that he doesn't start to actually make inroads on Clinton's leading margins until he actually goes to the states and convinces them in person. This factor goes against your theory that people are just jumping onto a media bandwagon. Instead, I submit that once they actually see what his campaign is all about up close and personal they sincerely want to be a part of it.

[Milo_Bloom]

18. Ahh, the Clintons and their silly little media conspiracies.

I wonder if it is all orchestrated by Aliens?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

21. You've Got To Be Kidding.

If you don't think the media has all sorts of been biased towards Obama and amazingly critical of Hillary, well, then, you must not watch tv, listen to a radio, or read a newspaper. I mean, holy cow, are you really gonna stand here and say they've been neutral? :wow:

[Milo_Bloom]

23. I do all of the above.

And it has been 100% neutral.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

27. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Oh, Oh, That's Too Much!!!! That's The Funniest Reply I've Gotten EVER!!!!

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[Milo_Bloom]

29. Guess your tin foil hat is on too tight.

Good luck with the wacky conspiracy theory.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

30. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Oh, Oh, That's Too Much!!! That's One Of The Funniest Replies I've Gotten EVER!!!!

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[Milo_Bloom]

31. Poor little guy... has to rely on wacky conspiracy theories to justify his positions.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

32. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Oh, Oh, That's Too Much!!! That's One Of The Funniest Replies I've Gotten EVER!!!!

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[Milo_Bloom]

33. When you can't prove your case, just pound your fist on the table.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

34. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Oh, Oh, That's Too Much!!! That's One Of The Funniest Replies I've Gotten EVER!!!!

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[Milo_Bloom]

35. Still no proof? Just icons to cover up your wacky conspiracy theory?

Isn't it easy to expose a Shillbot?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

38. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Oh, Oh, That's Too Much!!! That's One Of The Funniest Replies I've Gotten EVER!!!!

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[Milo_Bloom]

41. Still no proof? Just icons to cover up your wacky conspiracy theory?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

43. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Oh, Oh, That's Too Much!!! That's One Of The Funniest Replies I've Gotten EVER!!!!

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[Milo_Bloom]

44. What are you afraid of? Why the cowardly response?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

48. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Oh, Oh, That's Too Much!!! That's One Of The Funniest Replies I've Gotten EVER!!!!

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[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

49. Ok Ok Enough Of This Silliness OMC. You've Mocked The Ridiculous Position Enough. We Get It Already.

[Milo_Bloom]

51. Hmmm...

Did someone forget to change handles before responding to himself?


Naaaahhhhhhhhhhhh

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

53. Wow, So Like, No Grip On Reality AND No Sense Of Humor?

How sad for you.

[Milo_Bloom]

54. I just call em as I see em.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

56. Hence The Whole No Grip On Reality Thing.

:hi:

[Milo_Bloom]

58. Still no proof?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

61. That You've Got No Grip On Reality? It's All Over This Thread.

Zinggggggggg!!!

See ya! :hi:

[Milo_Bloom]

62. Prove your wacky conspriacy theory.

That's all... If it is so obvious, it shouldn't be too hard.

[Milo_Bloom]

50. Gotta love the way they represent their candidate... please do continue...

Your counter argument is surely proving your point so well.

[AGirl]

36. LMAO, thanks for the laugh LMAO hahhaa.

[Milo_Bloom]

37. Do you have any proof?

Without proof, all you have a silly little conspiracy theory.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

40. Well, You Definitely Have High Proof.

I'm thinkinnnnnnn, ummmmm, probably around the area of 150 proof or so...

:rofl:

[Milo_Bloom]

42. Prove your wacky conspriacy theory.

If it is so obvious, there must be some obvious proof.

Why are you afraid of it?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

47. Let There Be No Doubt:

You stand reallllllly close to alone on this one. Standing up and declaring that there has been no media bias has to be one of the all time dumbest and unaware of reality positions I have ever, ever, seen on DU. Even the most loyal of Obama supporters wouldn't dare say something as completely irrational as there having been no media bias whatsoever, and that the media has been 100% neutral. Even as total partisans towards their candidate, they still know damn well that the media hasn't been 100% neutral. I can't think of a time I ever saw a more out of touch with reality statement than saying it's been neutral. For real. Holy cow. :wow:

[Milo_Bloom]

52. Only in your mind.

If it is SOOO obvious and SOOO accepted...


PROVE IT.


That's all. Some independent analysis, or are they ALL in on it?


There's gotta be some type of proof out there... if not... it is just a silly little conpsiracy theory.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

55. 99.9% Of All People Reading Your '100% Neutral!' Declaration Are Laughing.

For real.

I've wasted enough time with this silliness. I've laughed my ass off enough at that completely nonsensical position already, so I think I'm gonna go now. Have fun with that whole, ya know, neutral thing! :rofl:

[Milo_Bloom]

59. So if everyone believed in a spaghetti monster, that would make it real?

Bless his noodily appendages


When you have some proof, let me know.

[AGirl]

45. no really, thanks for the laugh. I love it.

[Milo_Bloom]

46. Come on, don't be a coward. Offer some proof.

Or is it like the rest of Clinton's campaign... all noise, no substance?

[AGirl]

63. That Bill Schneider guy on CNN just said

it is unusual for Hillary to release that 3 am ad against Obama because it is rare to see a democrat attacking another democrat useing a "fear" attack ad, he said he hasn't seen this since the 1984 "red scare* campaign in the dem primary....and he said it has not played well within the democratic crowds, and allow Obama to dismiss the ad as same old same old washington politics..



apparently, he forgot about this ad..


WASHINGTON - Television commercials criticizing Democratic presidential front-runner Howard Dean, including one featuring Osama bin Laden, will come off the air in three early voting states by the end of the week.

Americans for Jobs, Healthcare and Progressive Values, a group with ties to Dean rival Dick Gephardt, is ending the ad runs in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina to comply with a federal ban on such ads by outside groups in the month before a primary contest. Voting begins Jan. 19 with Iowa’s caucuses.
David Jones, the group’s treasurer, said in an interview that the decision to stop running the ads was made weeks before Dean and others condemned them and said they should be pulled.

[Milo_Bloom]

65. That is the proof?

A 527 vs an actual sanctioned campaign ad?

You do realize what Schneider said was 100% accurate and an entirely neutral statement.

[AGirl]

66. I didn't realize it. I don't think it's a fear attack ad, (thats a netural statement?)

and he has no way of knowing how it will work among the dem voters. (a netural statement)? But if you think they are "entirely neutral statement", than i would understand why you don't see anything bias against Hillary in the media. enuff sai

[Milo_Bloom]

68. Its just reality.

To suggest that the emergency in the middle of the night, while your children sleep isn't above invoking fear is about as much spin as I can imagine.

Yes, absolutely 100% neutral and fact based statement.

Period. End of list.

[DemGa]

10. Good, this should rally the Dem base for Hillary....nt

[mod mom]

11. Obama canvasser just stopped by (OH) and said out of 30 homes all were Obama except 1 Clinton!

I live in a wealthy precinct (has OH governor's mansion). In 2004, it was the only precinct in my 13 precinct town that went for bu$h (people blatantly admitted it was for tax reasons :eyes:). The Obama canvasser was a Senior partner in a prominent law firm. He said he couldn't believe the overwhelming and enthusiastic support for Obama!

[GalleryGod]

70. Thanks!

Great "on the ground" report! Good work!

[TexasObserver]

12. Obama will win Texas.

And he'll catch a lot higher % of Hispanics than any of the pollsters are seeing, because they weak polling younger latinos.

[Eurobabe]

57. And 2 days left to go, we'll see....

But I feel very positive. Karma's a beo-yatch!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

60. Texas and Ohio will be close

[acrosstheuniverse]

69. New Zogby shows Obama's lead up 2 points giving him 4 point lead in Texas!

http://www.zogby.com/NEWS/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1459

Texas O 47% C 43%
Ohio O 45% C 46%

Ohio has Clinton up 1 point. This shit is too damn close!