Clinton leading Obama by double-digits in the Friday Texas Zogby survey.

[Lucinda]

http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1458

It's Zogby :eyes: and its only one day of survey, but it's still good to hear! :)

"Clinton had a big day Friday in the Zogby call center, leading Obama by double-digits in the Texas survey. She retains a significant lead among Hispanic voters there, a key demographic in the Democratic primary."

[bigdarryl]

1. it doesn't mean she will have another big day in the up coming tracking polls

[CyberPieHole]

2. Thanks for posting this, wlucinda. I'll take good news where I can find it.

:kick: and rec

[Lucinda]

7. Me too!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

28. me three

[guidod]

3. What double digit lead

are you talking about?

[Lucinda]

8. The one I posted and is mentioned in the link.

[Bucky]

10. LOL!

There is one line in that article that reads "Clinton had a big day Friday in the Zogby call center, leading Obama by double-digits in the Texas survey."

That means that in a three day survey, Clinton led among the interviews done on one of the three days! But the chart shows the results for the whole survey--in which Obama is in the lead.

[Lucinda]

13. I mentioned it was one day. I'll still take it. :)

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

32. the rest of the days don't count, just like those other states n/t

[Lucinda]

43. Oh....Go pee in someone else's pool.

Honestly. :eyes:

[guidod]

19. What a joke.....

LOL.....why do you posts threads like this?

[Lucinda]

44. Why do you post in them?

Thanks for the kick! :)

[Sensitivity]

4. Congratulations to Clinton Supporters! Good job if you can hold Texas

[HereSince1628]

5. I looked and didn't see it...

Found it...in a paragraph that is generally about how even the race is...

"Clinton had a big day Friday in the Zogby call center, leading Obama by double-digits in the Texas survey. She retains a significant lead among Hispanic voters there, a key demographic in the Democratic primary."

[AtomicKitten]

6. Zogby was on Washington Journal this A.M. and said Obama is 2 points ahead in Texas and 1 in Ohio.

He also said that Obama's trend toward white men in Ohio is pretty breathtaking and he is now taking them 2.5:1 over Hillary, tending upward.

So, there's that.

Edited for link: http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1458

[Bucky]

9. Um. Uh... the link you provide shows Obama ahead by 2 points

Must be using that fuzzy math

[Lucinda]

14. What part of the direct quote are you having problems with?

Friday was a double digit lead.
It's only one day, which I also mentioned.

[Bucky]

16. It's called deliberate distortion of the facts

People want poll results. No one bets on which horse is ahead when they're still only halfway around the track.

[Lucinda]

17. No it isn't. I specifically said it was one days polling data.

[guidod]

20. You remind me of

Faux news.......very distorting.

[Lucinda]

22. What EXACTLY did I distort?

[guidod]

24. The result

of the overall poll. Only say'n :-)

[Lucinda]

30. I never addressed the whole poll. I specifically addressed the Friday results.

Looks like you just read the subject lines.
Only say'n :)

Editing to say you don't appear to read the subject lines for comprehension either. It's pretty damn plain. :)

[guidod]

33. Cherry picking information

won't work.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

35. It Does When The Poster BLATANTLY ACKNOWLEDGES That's What Was Being Shown.

You are harassing this poster quite ignorantly, and you look quite foolish doing so. The OP made it more than clear what was being discusses and that it was just a segment of the overall poll. You are acting like an ignorant child.

[guidod]

39. I look foolish?

Is there a mirror in the room that you are in right now? Perhaps you should take a peak.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

41. Holy Shit!!!! What Are You Doing Behind Me!!!! Stalker!!!!! STALKERRRRRR!!!!!!

Yes... You look foolish...

[Lucinda]

36. Thanks for the additional kick!

:hi:

[avrdream]

46. That's my favorite part: they keep kicking your thread.

Was Friday the most recent of the days? If so, maybe the trend hasn't yet been picked up (movement towards Hillary).

We will see - sounds like Texas has changed things up a bit since I lived there with this mixed up primary/caucus thing. Had to be the Repubs who worked that one out.

[Lucinda]

47. Yep. Friday was the most recent day. Will be interesting to see if it

continues.

I lived in Bear Creek for a while (Houston suburb) - but it wasn't long enough to hit an election cycle. I had no idea there was a mixed caucus/primary. Screwey.

[anigbrowl]

34. I hear Clinton is still ahead among Clinton voters too

Not grudging you being happy about some good news, but it's pretty substance-free.

[Lucinda]

37. It's Zogby.

Their track reacord this cycle makes it a guaranteed iffy bit of data :)
Still was nice to see. :D

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

25. Just Because You Suffer From A Severe Reading Comprehension Disorder, Does Not Mean The OP

is distorted. In fact, the OP made it quite clear what the point was.

[Alexander]

27. You trust one-day tracking polls? No wonder you're so delusional.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

29. Neither I Nor The OP Claimed Such A Thing. You Suffer From The Same Disorder As The Poster Above?

:shrug:

[Alexander]

42. Or maybe you're clinging to any last bit of good news before Hillary's campaign is over.

It's almost as if hope that the race will change is all you have left.

:rofl:

[Drunken Irishman]

11. As I said last night, don't trust one-day averages.

They are extremely unreliable. Remember, the Tuesday of Wisconsin's primary, Clinton was said to be surging nationally, actually taking the lead over Obama in the Gallup survey and then by Thursday, she was back down again.



On that Tuesday, Clinton was up 45-44, two days later, she was down 47-45.

Daily numbers typically fluctuate and it's best to look at the overall trend and not the daily number. If Obama continues to lose support the next two tracking polls, then it could signal there is a big shift in Clinton's direction. However, at this moment, there is nothing to prove it isn't more than just an anomaly.

And the same goes for Obama surging in Ohio, too.

[adoraz]

12. this had a very small sampling (just 1/3 days), and also considering it was Friday night

I would really like to see the cross tabs, because there is a big possibility that there was a lopsided telephone polling of seniors. most younger people wouldn't be home Friday nights while most seniors would. I would like to see if that was weighted at all.

[emilyg]

15. TY

[Lucinda]

18. :)

It's Zogby. :eyes: But it was a tiny spark of good news. I'll take it.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

21. no offense, but Zogby's been crap this year

his track record for the primaries' has been terrible

[Lucinda]

23. No kidding. :)

I thought the :eyes: conveyed my disdain for Zogby in general.
Still, it was interesting news, so I posted it. :)

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

26. Thanks For The Info. Friday Was A Good Day For Her Indeed!

[Lucinda]

31. Looked good to me!

And thanks for the defense upthread. Much appreciated! :hi:

[NJSecularist]

38. This is an example of..

[ZinZen]

40. The same Zogby who predicted Obama would win

CA by double digits. HMMMMM...

[avrdream]

45. A ray of hope!

But, you are right, it's Zogby, who has been the absolute worst if I recall correctly.

Maybe it is false and being done just to stir Obama supporters even more. See how cynical I have become?

[rainbow4321]

48. Not according to the list of state polls on Wikipedia

Lists all upcoming primary states..scroll down to TX.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries%2C_2008


Zogby
Sample Size: 708
Margin of Error: ± 3.8%
February 27 - February 29, 2008 Barack Obama 45%, Hillary Clinton 43%, Gravel <1%, Someone Else 3%, Not Sure 8% ‡
Insider Advantage
Sample Size: 591


February 28, 2008 Hillary Clinton 47%, Barack Obama 43%, Undecided 10% ‡
American Research Group
Sample Size: 600
Margin of Error: ± 4%
February 27-February 28, 2008 Barack Obama 51%, Hillary Clinton 44%, Other 2% Undecided 3% ‡


Zogby
Sample Size: 704
Margin of Error: ± 3.8%
February 26 - February 28, 2008 Barack Obama 48%, Hillary Clinton 42%, Gravel <1%, Someone Else 3%, Not Sure 7% ‡

Fox News/Opinion Dynamics
Sample Size: 600
Margin of Error: ± 4%
February 26 - February 28, 2008 Barack Obama 48%, Hillary Clinton 45%, Someone Else 2%, Not Sure 5% ‡

Rasmussen Reports
Sample Size: 503
Margin of Error: ± 4%
February 27, 2008 Barack Obama 48%, Hillary Clinton 44%, Undecided 8% ‡