Hillary Clinton Exposed vid

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http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/YK4S4fY8gFA

[ElsewheresDaughter]

1. it was these Obama statements that caused the ADL/Israel have Tim ask Obama to "reject" Farrakhan

and kiss the Israeli ring

[Rageneau]

2. Hillary says she won't let dictators jerk us around. Obama says he will.

What's not to understand?

Hillary is smart not to commit to meeting -- without ANY preconditions -- with all the world's dictators, wherever they want, for any reason they want, with any slant put on it they want.

Obama, OTOH, says he's ready to do whatever these dicators say, go wherever they want, for any reason they want, at any time they want, to talk about anything they want to talk about.

That's dumb. It opens him up to be used by them for propaganda and other purposes (i.e., photo ops that will solidify their power at home.)

As usual, Hillary is being real-world practical, while Barack is living in happy Obamaland with other easily fooled people.

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3. "Obama, OTOH, says he's ready to do whatever these dicators say"

This is complete bullshit. Find one quote from Obama where's he's said what you've written in your post or shut the fuck up.

[Rageneau]

5. Yes, in so many words, he said exactly that.

Obama said exactly what I said he did when he answered "Yes," to the question posed.

In the video, Obama's answer to this question has been edited (surprise, surprise). The very front of it -- where he says 'yes' -- has been deleted. But it is nevertheless clear from his remaining remarks that his answer to the questioner was a definite, "Yes."

That's important, because the question was as follows:

"Would you be willing to meet separately, , in the anywhere else with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?"

By saying 'yes,' Obama publicly committed to meeting with any or all of those dictators within the first year of his presidency, WHEREVER they say he has to meet them. (i.e., they can jerk him around by choosing an embarrassing or difficult location, and he'll have no choice but to show up or break his word).

And once he goes to wherever they tell him to go, these dictators can then make Obama discuss whatever issues they want him to discuss, under any ground-rules they choose to impose, and he will have no choice but to play ball with them or break his promise to meet with these leaders WITHOUT pre-condiitons. (i.e., they can jerk him around on the purpose and the procedures for the meeting and he'll either have to put up with it, or look like he didn't know what he was saying when he made such an open-ended promise in the first place (which happens to be the truth.)

Where did Obama say the words I said he did?

If you ask me if I kicked your dog and I say, "yes," you don't have to hear me precisely articulate the words "I kicked your dog" to know that I kicked your dog.

In the same way, Obama does not have to precisely articulate the words: "I will go anywhere foreign dictators tell me to, at any time during the first year of my presidency, to discuss anything those dictators want me to discuss, under any conditions they want to discuss them -- even if their only purpose is to jerk me around and make me look naive."

No, he doesn't have to actually say those words. All he has to do is say 'yes' to the question posed. And that's exactly what he did.

[Rageneau]

6. Correcting the quote:

The question posed was:

"Would you be willing to meet separately, in WASHINGTON, or anywhere else with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?"

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4. Oddly enough, I love Kissinger's writings on this

He finds the notion of preconditions for negotiations to be stupid (as do I). You end up meta-negotiating.

The biggest problem is that the "preconditions" are usually what the actual results of the negotiations should be. Take Hamas / Israel. We want Hamas to recognize Israel as a precondition? How idiotic is that? The point of the negotiations is to get to a point of mutual recognition.

Sigh.