GD:P - It is time to take a good hard look at ourselves.

[Ravy]

When a post that says:

"Please start posting negativity about Hillary Clinton, documented or made up, doesn't matter....just do it consistently and brutaly (sp). Keep these threads recommended and kicked so that they can float up to other pages that matter much more than GDP. "

Gets seven God damned recs in 10 minutes there is something seriously wrong with this forum.

It would be nice to have a spot to post, and even argue, about campaign events, strategies, polls, predictions, etc. but it is constantly inundated by trash such as this, advocating more trash.

We have become what we purport to hate most in politics.

[NightWatcher]

1. dont worry, most of us "normals" immed. put it on "ignore"

believe it or not there are those of us Obama supporters who are just as upset with these posts as are many HIllary supporters.

[Ravy]

6. Post #5 was meant as a reply to you.

[ClassWarrior]

2. It's hard to take a good hard look when you don't post a link.

NGU.

[LoZoccolo]

3. Where is the "just do it consistently and brutaly" thread?

I want to recommend it too! :bounce:

[stop the bleeding]

8. here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4839478&mesg_id=4839478

btw I support Obama, but not what the person said in the link.

I completely agree with the OP of this thread

[LoZoccolo]

9. I believe the "brutaly" thread is sarcasm. n/t

[ClassWarrior]

10. Ohcomeon. That's so obviously sarcasm, you'd have to be a potted plant...

...to miss it. Quit stirring up shit, people.

NGU.

[donheld]

23. Sarcasm can be lost on people when

tensions are as high as they are in GD:P right now.

[terrya]

29. I would have to logoff to see it...that OP is on my ignore list

But considering the reprehensible assholes I have on my ignore list, I can just imagine what it was about.

[LoZoccolo]

38. You put me on ignore once because of the Oasis threads.

lol

[KoKo]

34. Sounds like this was written by Ann Coulter....sheesh...look at this part...

We need to accept this challenge, and we need to remain as negative and as hateful as possible, without respise until Tuesday. Remember that until we can actually win the nomination, we cannot beat the politics of hate and division and fear. We must scream and scratch louder than the opponent. Scorch earth tactics is our duty until the opponent falls.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. That went way too far. I was really embarrassed to read it.

There has been enough nasty shit here already without actually encouraging more of it. I just wish that, no matter how annoying or unfair some comment about a candidate might be, people would just get a grip. DU is only an internet message board. If you think it's nasty, either refute it with facts or ignore it. Turn off the computer and make some phone calls for your candidate. Just stop dumping more shit in the cesspool; it's starting to overflow.

[ClassWarrior]

7. Or hit the damn alert button. Save yourself some emotional torment.

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

12. Now I know why you didn't hit the alert button. You knew you there was nothing wrong.

The mods aren't stupid enough to fall for your mischaracterizations. They know sarcasm when they see it.

NGU.

[MoonRiver]

36. "Yes, I am serious,"

Doesn't sound like sarcasm, and no sarcasm smilie either.

The responders didn't seem to think it was sarcasm. You are about the only person who sees it that way. :eyes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4839478&mesg_id=4839478

[Ravy]

5. There are *lots* of good Obama supporters here... I know because

I have engaged some in some great threads. There are *lots* of good Clinton supporters here, too. I have engaged them, too.

I am really neither. I try to point out obvious misrepresentations by either side. I would be happy with either an Obama or Clinton nomination, but I want the process to be fair and informative.

[JohnnyLib2]

11. I wrote it off as political naivete.

It's extremely hard to envision that OP calling or knocking on the doors of Undecided voters this Fall.

[MoonRiver]

37. Believe me that poster is NOT naive.

She's a card carrying member of the Obamatron scorched earth society.

[Zachstar]

13. It was a ironic topic.

Yet Clinton Supporters cannot seem to grasp too much in their state of desperation.

I cant wait for this to all be over. I hope this next primary is the LAST and Clinton exits so we don't have to go another month with this crap.

[NMMNG]

14. It's sad really

Rabid hatred of HRC and her supporters has overtaken actual support for Obama. Hence that thread and the ones where people openly wish for HRC supporters to disappear (including making allusions to their "death") just so they don't have to see opposing points of view. Apparently the "unity" they've been preaching about is just bullshit.

[Skittles]

16. they sound like f***ing freepers

absolutely disgusting

[NMMNG]

17. Probably some of them are

Hence the rabid homophobia and sexism that's rampant here.

[Kittycat]

15. Really - this goes both ways.

If I see another lying Obama thread, I'm going to lose it. I keep putting people on ignore, and more craptastic posts pop up. It's becoming a lonely place here. I cannot wait until this is all over with.

[Ravy]

18. I think what happened to me is I was an Edwards supporter...

and I put most of the rabid Hillary supporters whose goal in life it is to bring other candidates down on Ignore early in the process. Since he dropped out, I don't really care which of them win, but I see far more Hillary bashing threads than Obama bashing ones, because of the early Ignores.

But this post wasn't about threads that lie. I try to point them out in the threads when I see them, Obama or Hillary threads.

This particular thread was *encouraging* making up threads based on lies. And now it has 9 recs. Unbelievable.

[emilyg]

19. Unbelievable. Makes me very sad.

[Political Heretic]

20. um.. the post was being ironical?

Is that to hard to grasp?

[Ravy]

21. Funny, I didn't see a single hint of that in any of the 50 or so replies

until I put the OP on Ignore.

On edit: I take that back. It is ironic that a supposed supporter of a man who preaches unity, truthfulness, and honor would post such a thing.

[Bongo Prophet]

24. It was pretty obviously sarcastic to me, but I want no part of that kind of stuff.

After seeing all the nasty back and forth, it was an apparent call to start as many stupid threads from the "opposite side."
But I can see how clumsy and unclear it would be without the "edit' addition at bottom, which clarified the intent.
But still.

Gack. Who needs that?
I am voting for Obama, but I respect many Clinton supporters, and don't go for the low road.


It seems to be the same people on each side that keep taunting each other - I think most of the high road supporters would not touch such a thread either.

Peace :hi:

[NastyRiffraff]

22. Yeah, it was an attempt at irony

Clumsily done, particularly in this atmosphere. Good irony is done with grace and polish; that post didn't get within a zip code of that.

[Political Heretic]

25. you said "hard"

Heh.

[mattclearing]

26. What is this "we" shit?

There is an influx of campaign volunteers/overeager supporters that seem to think we give a shit about their whisper/smear campaigns. Don't blame the community for something that isn't its fault.

[cooolandrew]

27. I don't condone that, but I sure didn't condone it the other way either.

[terrya]

28. When you begin to get used to it is even sadder

When I see a post saying..."metaphorically" that Hillary should be put down...and IT goes to the Greatest Page, something is seriously fucked up. And then I realize maybe I should just get used to that kind of thing.

[Perry Logan]

30. Today's word is SATIRE.

Satire. n. Literary genre in which human or individual vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings are held up to censure by means of ridicule, derision, burlesque, irony, or other methods, ideally with an intent to bring about improvement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire

[Ravy]

31. Took the OP off of Ignore long enough to read the Edit. That

was put there rather conveniently and rather late I suppose, because I read the first bunch of responses, and I don't recall a single mention of "It's satire" to the many who disagreed with the post.

So to the ones that think her post is satire, this one obviously is, too. To the rest of you, we need to fight this shit on the board.

[TacticalPeek]

32. You nailed it the first time.

The "lipstick" edit they added at the end (after your post) just goes to show how stupid a pig looks in lipstick.

[Ravy]

35. Yeah, I know I did.

Otherwise they would have been putting that in that thread when people started complaining.

Thanks!

[ElboRuum]

33. Sarcasm Lost

I detected it without need of disclaimer. I really think people around here need to unclench.