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Gnister Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 09:22 AM
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Getting worried about Dems dividing....
Is it just me, or is someone else getting worried that the race between Hillary and Obama is starting to result in a division growing within the democratic party. I'm getting worried that the only winners of a tough and rough campaign between Hillary and Obama will be McCain and the Republican Party. I really, really believe it is time to join ranks and start to focus on how we are going to beat the republicans and McCain instead of arguing amongst ourselves so that we can win in November, no matter if it will be Obama or Hillary that will be our Nominee and Presidential candidate.

Is it only me that is getting worried about all the arguing???
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 09:23 AM
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1. It's ok. It's almost over.
And we will rally around the nominee to pummel mcShame into the ground.
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 09:25 AM
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2. I personally believe that you will have a small group that won't vote for the other
candidate..but I also think where Democratic votes are concerned, the DU is should be seen as a small country store and America at large as a Super Walmart.

Most folks are not completely tuned into the bitterness and divisiveness..they've either made their choice or will make their choice, without all the other crap.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 09:25 AM
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3. Not time to worry yet. Wait until after these next 4 primaries. n/t
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 09:26 AM
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4. It will not stop until Clinton exits.
That is the sad reality that we have to face. That is why this next primary being the LAST of this race is so important. This is why I am glad Obama is putting huge funds toward such.

If this continues into April you can say hello to a Republican President. By that time so much dirt will be handed to the republicans and the air out of the sail... It will be bad.

Hopefully Clinton will do the right thing. This does NOT need to go into April! Please Exit soon!
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 09:26 AM
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5. It's not as bad as you think.
You see it a lot more here than you do out in the real world. Most people would be happy with either.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 10:56 AM
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23. yes it is!..i hear it every day from real dems ..you know the ones who do the work for the party!
not the ones who just go to rallies..and have just shown up for the first time in their life...

eom
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soundguy Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 09:41 AM
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6. Rightfully Worried
This community organizer, loyal Dem, former union leader, and contributor is out if Hillary goes down. I have been called every name in the book by Obama supporters and no longer will be a part of a party like this. The neighbors across the street 2x Bush voters are actually Clinton supporters (been working them for a couple years now). I know the cool-aid drinkers don't care but they are new and have yet to run into the reality of politics. As I have said before, when Ohio delivers the Presidency to McCain you can only blame it on yourselves.

At any rate I will enjoy my last few days as a Dem and wonder why I have given so much for so little. I can't speak for the wife but I will either be staying home or going third party. Speaking of which, I looked at Nader's' site and his platform is more democrat than the leading dem candidates.....Go Figure...
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 09:50 AM
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9. interesting sig line.
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 09:51 AM by LiberalAndProud
Hope the Nader thing works well for ya.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 09:56 AM
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10. Thank You For Your Concern, You Cute Wittle Nader Lover You.
Here's somethin you should know though: Those ignorant enough to support Nader, are clueless enough that their opinions don't mean diddly squat. :hi:
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soundguy Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 10:16 AM
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14. Not a Nader Lover See How You Guys Are?
I was just pointing out the facts. Perhaps you should look at his platform and make your own decision based on what I said. I pretty much have hated him since 2000 and for good reason I think. But anyone wanting to make and intelligent INFORMED decision should be aware of all the information available. I have also visited Pauls, Hucks and McCain's and Obamas sites. I like information. But the Cool aide drinkers know they have an empty glass and HAVE to resort to verbal abuse, lies and deceit. Troubling if you ask me. And that is why my days as a 30 year Dem are apparently numbered. Gotta go my breakfast in bed is served...Yes, Bacon, eggs, potatoes (sliced just the way I like em), english muffin with grape jelly, and vanilla coffee. Carry on haters.....
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Gnister Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 10:27 AM
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15. I promise I would never, NEVER, vote for Nader
I dont think he is a serious candidate on many issues!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 10:29 AM
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17. An Honorable Promise Indeed.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 09:45 AM
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7. See, This Is What You Must Grasp: The Balkers And Tantrum Throwers Are A Minuscule % Of Who Will Be
voting.

You come here, see all the infighting, all the crap, blah blah blah, and it makes it appear that there's this huge riff etc. But that's not reality. In reality, democrats everywhere are more excited than they've been in quite some time, and they aren't fighting like this at all. What you see in here is not the real world. It's just a minuscule slice of what's real. You have to remember to keep that in perspective. The Dem party is fine right now and will continue to be. We're gonna thump the shit out of McCain in November, regardless of which of our Dems emerges as the nominee!
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 09:49 AM
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8. Right. Every poll I have seen shows that...
the vast majority of rank and file Democrats are very pleased with either candidate. Actually, it's on the Republican side where a lot of people won't vote for McCain no matter what.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 11:04 AM
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25. ahhh i am in Florida..remember our delegates don't count..i think you are mistaken!!
the fighting here and the bullshit by the obamaites..is disgusting and is turning our dem "voters" off big time!!

Obama is a liar and the older folk here have caught on big time!!( ahh pssss..obama was the first to come into our state saying he would seat the delegates..the first and only candidate to say that before our election..and the people here..you know the ones who get in the trenches and do the work for the dem party and donate the money...they get it!!)

fly
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 10:00 AM
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11. I cannot support the Obama thugs. They are destroying this party.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 10:10 AM
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12. i can not agree with you more..i have never in my 57 yrs seen it like this in the dem party..and i
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 10:12 AM by flyarm
am past disgusted with the obama bullshit.

oh and i dislike HILLARY ENORMOUSLY..but her supporters....well, they are not nasty and unkind....NOT ONE OF THEM HAVE TOLD ME TO GO AWAY OR STFU LIKE I GET TREATED TO DAILY.. BY THE OBAMA ASSHOLES!

fly
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Gnister Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 10:29 AM
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16. So you would prefer a republican befora a Democrat?
I promise you, you have so much more in common with both Hillary and Obama than McCain
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 10:35 AM
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18. I would prefer a competent leader over a thug.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 10:42 AM
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19. ME TOO..and here comes the with us or against us squad..i don't buy that bullshit obama people
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 10:45 AM by flyarm
get this straight..i didn't buy it from bush..and you certainly are not going to sell that bullshit to me..get it..you better!..because the obama assholes have, for the first time in my 57 years ..pissed me off at my own party, like i didn't think possible...keep it up..many of us will sit home in nov...i don't take to your threats..nor did i take to the same threats by the bushbots..

fly
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 10:47 AM
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20. I agree with you 100%
My first vote was for Humphrey and I have voted Democratic in every election since. But the Obama thugs have turned me so much against him, I will not vote Democratic for President this fall, if he is the nominee
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Gnister Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 01:50 PM
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27. So what you guys are saying is that you really aren't Democrats.....
rather that it is the person that will make you vote...not the issues that they stand for...
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:51 PM
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31. For me, it more that the Othugs are not Democrats
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 10:14 AM
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13. It's the DLC that is destroying this party.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 10:52 AM
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21. Obama has alienated a large part of the Democratic base
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 10:53 AM by DemGa
And as we know, Hillary attracts more Democrats.

Obama will be in deep trouble with a fractured base when his "indies" and repugs scatter to the wind -- this would be seen as the most senseless and silly political event in American history. The Dems will become a joke and could be set back for decades.

But there would be 2012 to set it right.

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Gnister Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 12:37 PM
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26. You must be kidding me, would you vote republican before Obama?
I would vote both Hillary and Obama befora ANY republican!!!
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 10:54 AM
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22. Why worry?
I refuse to worry about it. I'll do what my conscience demands when voting and let the chips fall where they may.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 11:00 AM
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24. Purely anecdotal, but it seems to me that it is the Edwards supporters
that I have spoken to who have maybe voted for 1 of the 2 remaining that are the ones but without the enthusiasm that fervent supporters of the 2 camps contain that are expressing the fear of a protracted fight

The remaining 'partisans' from each camp are focused on winning the nomination and not too many are looking beyond that.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 01:56 PM
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28. McCain is/was going to win no matter what we do. Oh and the obligitory...
I promise to vote for whoever gets the nomination for President for us.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:01 PM
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29. I don't buy into that idea because its the republicans that want us divided. We better get used to
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 02:02 PM by Seabiscuit
the idea of coming together after we have a nominee or we will lose in November. Also, I am sure that whoever the nominee is the other (whether it is Barack or Hillary) will support and defend our nominee to the end against the RW B.S. media machine which is just waiting out there to attack the democrats. I'm not worried because all Democrats know that together we can accomplish anything. :-)
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:22 PM
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30. Read this thread!
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