How Can I Trust Hillary? She Trusted George W. Bush

[From The Left]

Floor Speech of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, on S.J. Res. 45, A Resolution to Authorize the Use of
United States Armed Forces Against Iraq, October 10, 2002:

"So it is with conviction that I support this resolution as being in the best interests of our nation. A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war; it is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our President and we say to him - use these powers wisely and as a last resort. And it is a vote that says clearly to Saddam Hussein - this is your last chance - disarm or be disarmed."

Sen. Hillary Clinton trusted George W. Bush’s judgment to do the right thing about Iraq and now she wants to be president? Sens. Ted Kennedy, Russ Feingold and Barbara Boxer knew better to trust George W. Bush on Iraq. But not Hillary.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

1. Did you vote for Kerry in 04?

[From The Left]

14. Kerry Is Supporting Obama

Next?

[niceypoo]

20. Kerry also Voted for IWR

yet you voted for him.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

21. you did NOT answer the question and I know why...because if you did then you also supported the IWR

[JAbuchan08]

38. Not in the primary. Not in the primary. Not in the primary. Not in the primary

Not in the primary. Not in the primary. Not in the primary. Not in the primary. Not in the primary.




Not in the primary.

[Faygo Kid]

2. Exactly. Good post.

And unlike Kerry, Edwards, et al, she still won't admit that she made the horrid mistake.

Hell, I knew that vote meant war. So did everyone I know. So did she.

It was a calculated vote with an eye to 2008, and it backfired.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

3. "Squawk! I'm A Parrot!" "Squawk! IWR IWR" "Squawk! She Voted She Voted IWR IWR" "Squawk"

Here:

[Exilednight]

10. I find it a sad state of affairs when you can take the death of 3972 soldiers so lightly...

I lost my best friend to this god-forsaken cluster-fuck some people laughingly call a war.

There's real people out there with real bullets being shot at every day and innocent civilians are dying in the process.

But go ahead and make your sad jokes about it, and keep excusing the inexcusable. Every person who voted for that war has blood on their hands.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

12. "Squawk! I'm A Parrot!" "Squawk! IWR IWR" "Squawk! She Voted She Voted IWR IWR" "Squawk"

[ElsewheresDaughter]

30. ROFLMAO

:rofl:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

24. Who did you vote for in 04?

[Name removed]

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[ElsewheresDaughter]

29. who made you the DU hall monitor?

[Raejeanowl]

31. Just To Put A Little Perspective On It

Not that I think the deaths are a GOOD thing...every single one of those soldiers killed...was a VOLUNTEER for armed service.

And I lost a number of my own friends to the DRAFTED cluster-fuck that was Vietnam.

[Vinca]

4. She also agreed with Shrub on Iran, essentially giving him

the okay to bomb some more.

[From The Left]

5. Precisely. Hillary Clinton is a Hawk

Don't buy her newly found, populist shtick. It's as fake as her marriage.

[Lucinda]

9. She did not. Did you even read the Sense of the Senate?

[From The Left]

28. Off Topic. The Discussion Here is Hillary's Senate Speech

[Lucinda]

32. I wasn't responding to you. Buzz off.

[Vinca]

34. Under normal circumstances, the "Sense of the Senate" might have made sense.

Given the fact we have a raving lunatic in the oval office who believes he's on a mission from God to wipe evil off the face of the earth and who has been spoiling for war with Iran, dubbing the military of Iran a terrorist organization is not a terribly wise move. No one would be surprised to have King George drop a few bombs and say, "Well, we all agreed they're terrorists. Heh-heh-heh."

[gerrilea]

6. So did 78% of Americans at the time...don't trust anyone I say! Without proof!

[The_Casual_Observer]

7. Wow, I hadn't heard about the IWR before!

Thanks for all your input on this.

[From The Left]

8. Hillary Knew Exactly What She Was Voting For

I wonder if she will apologize on Jon Stewart's program tomorrow night? There's the "kitchen sink."

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

37. Of course she did . . .

yet she claims to be "ready on day one." Ready for what?! To be duped? I could excuse Hillary - and, frankly, felt a little sorry for her - when Bill supposedly deceived her repeated affairs, but to give George Bush a blank check by voting for the IWR, that is unforgivable. At least Edwards had the balls to apologize and say he had learned from his mistake. Not so with Hillary.

[UALRBSofL]

11. FromTheLeft Just trust her like you trusted Kerry

I know you can do it. Feel the love. :)

[From The Left]

13. Shame on you, Hillary Clinton!

Kennedy, Feingold and Boxer knew not to trust George W. Bush.

[From The Left]

36. Kerry Is Supporting Obama. Your Point?

[Pryderi]

15. Her "red phone" moment came when W called and she said, "Yes, Sir!"

[Hepburn]

17. Her next sentence was....

..."Where shall I kiss your ass again, George."

JMHO

[Pryderi]

18. She's ready to concede from Day 1!

[From The Left]

25. FOFLMAO!

[suston96]

16. Congress is supposed to "trust" the President of the United States...But you quoted ,,,,,

.....the part of the speech you like.... Here is part of the speech that really counts:

"My vote is not, however, a vote for any new doctrine of pre-emption, or for uni-lateralism, or for the arrogance of American power or purpose -- all of which carry grave dangers for our nation, for the rule of international law and for the peace and security of people throughout the world.

*******

A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war; it is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our President and we say to him - use these powers wisely and as a last resort."

[Hepburn]

19. Hillary is a lawyer....

...and she has NO clue what this title meant???

Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002

GMAFB.....spin that bullshit somewhere poeple are too stupid to read and comprehend. It is NOT selling well anymore. She voted for the USE OF FORCE. Get a clue, OK? She voted that way solely because she thought it was the expedient thing to do...fuck the right thing to do. Tell me...you think it is OK for Congress to give its Constitutional powers to a fuckhead asshole like Bush? Talk about lack of fucking judgment. To not only do that....but to acutally think that Bush would do the right thing?

Peddle your bullshit elsewhere...like where people are stupid enough to buy that kind of a spin that relies on a good faith belief that GWB would do the right thing!

Geeeeeeeez!

[gerrilea]

22. And O voted to fund the war...period

[Recursion]

23. Bush also said that vetoing SCHIP was not an attack on poor sick children

But saying stuff doesn't make it so.

It was a bill that authorized Bush to use military force.

Period.

The amount of absolute bullshit I'm seeing spread to try to spin this very simple fact is ridiculous.

Kerry admitted it was a vote for war, and a mistake.
Edwards admitted it was a vote for war, and a mistake.

If Clinton honestly doesn't see that it was a vote for war (let alone a mistake), then all the more do I question her suitability for her current job, let alone the Presidency.

[From The Left]

26. Yep. She Trusted George W. Bush. Your Point?

[suston96]

39. My point is that the constitutional system of checks and balances.....

....has no defense against a lying President. Congress, in the name of the American people, voted for the joint resolution.

Hillary Clinton and 76 other Senators and a huge majority in the House voted on that joint resolution based on Bush/Cheney lies. Throw rocks at the right people instead of this thoughtless dervish against a candidate you don't like. You are giving the real villains a free pass.

But hey, obviously that is all you have against Hillary Clinton, so whirl on........

[The River]

33. She Had To Vote For The IWR

or be seen as weak on defense in 08'
It was a political vote. She knew thousands ofpeople
would die and billions of $ would be wasted
but she had to vote yes or be labeled as a
anti war liberal.
Maybe she thought the war would be a cake walk and
her vote would be an asset in 08'. (great 3:00AM decision?)

It isn't people or principle that drive her decisions;
they are all political votes based on whats good for her.

[From The Left]

35. Good point