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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:42 PM
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Hillary Supporters: Desperately Seeking Scandal
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 03:13 PM by cali
Quite a few of DU's Hillary supporters are frantically hoping that some huge scandal takes down Obama. Well, I hate to break it to you, but the odds of that happening are slim to none.

Some of them talk about Rezco in positively orgasmic terms. They thrill to the idea that Rezco will stand up in court tomorrow and implicate Obama in every imaginable kind of criminal wrong doing. That's a fantasy and only a fantasy. Not going to happen.

Fitzgerald has said that Obama has no involvement. Obama is not on the witness list. There is NO indication that he'll be brought down by this. Not tomorrow and not in the future.

It's ironic that so many Hillary supporters push this bullshit- considering the Clintons long history of association with shady characters with deep pockets. Hsu, Gupta, Rich, Giustra; those are just a few of the names that come to mind.

It's so lame to think that the only way your candidate can get the nomination is through scandal taking down the candidate who's winning.


And Rezco isn't the only straw that some of the Hillary supporters are desperately grasping. There's:

Mary Matalin says Obama is a liar!

Obama is Cheney's 8th cousin!

Obama will appoint Hagel as Secretary of Defense! (never mind that there's zero evidence for this)

Obama is completely unknown!

Obama is a trojan horse for a secret cabal!

Obama is a stealth repuke (please see Hagel)

Obama has no experience!

etc, etc


ON EDIT: The OP in no way is meant to be interpreted as saying the gutter politics is one sided. It ain't. There are plenty of awful posts about Senator Clinton coming out of the Obama side of the aisle. Any post that suggests that Senator Clinton is unhinged, wants to bomb children, is an injured wild animal, etc, is just as bad.

(Shoutout to Ruggerson: Thanks, Ruggerson. :hi:)
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:45 PM
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1. I have it on good authority Obama is Satan.
:evilgrin: :rofl:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:46 PM
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2. I dunno, it's just nuts, what some people will pimp as scandal
I am so ready for this primary season to be over with.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:46 PM
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3. He has fathered African-American children!
Not only that, he was an Illinois state senator.

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:47 PM
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4. Oh, God
:rofl:
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:55 PM
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11. Priceless!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:07 PM
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21. LOL !!!
:rofl::yourock::rofl:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:39 PM
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36. OMG........
....LMBO!! :rofl:
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:48 PM
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5. You cannot win a presidential campaign by seizing on the faults of others
It is yours to win or lose based on your ability to shine. If she wins the primary this way, she will lose the general. You cannot win the big enchilada hoping everyone else screws up.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:48 PM
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6. There are just as many, if not more, rabid Obama supporters
making idiotic claims against Clinton.

That's the nature of the internets.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:02 PM
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15. Did you see Wolfson and Axelrod on This Week today?
I didnt, but I read on the internets that Wolfson had Rezco from the Mouth Snydrome at defcom 5 today.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:06 PM
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16. I need to check the interweb on this one!
What network is that? I meant to watch it but I was watching MTP and forgot.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:19 PM
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27. and Axelrod shot back
that the "Clintons" shouldn't be talking about bad real estate deals.

It goes both ways.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:11 PM
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25. I Haven't Seen One Post Here Claiming Hillary Fathered Black Children
:rofl:
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:50 PM
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7. you forgot one
Obama is the Antichrist
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:52 PM
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8. Continue the divisiveness and hope for unity.
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blocker Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:52 PM
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9. Your right it's getting ridiculous and annoying!
It seems every single stupid details are being braught up, it really is getting ridiculous, Clinton has a lot more scandals...
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:52 PM
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10. Mary Matalin has the goods.
She was biting her lip to keep it quiet today on MTP.

He's your target....I'm not a part of this one.
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jean627 Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:07 PM
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20. Mary Matelin?
LMAO. The Mary Matelin, James Carville's wife, whom Carville called to warn Cheney that Kerry was winning the 2004 election by a landslide?

Ya, sure, great people...NOT.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:37 PM
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35. Sure, she's keeping her mouth shut because breaking a story is a journalist's worst nightmare
She's just saving it for a special moment to add extra shock value.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:40 PM
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40. 60 hours + 7 days
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:57 PM
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12. your sewer is backing up. Very divisive post-as if we don't have enough of this crap.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:00 PM
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14. No, I'm just noting the effluence spilling over from the sewer
I'm damned sick of the panting after a scandal to take down Obama.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:06 PM
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18. gotcha
a lot of Hillary supporters have not bought into the Rezko story, though. I think your point is better made about gutter politics in general. It's not just Hillary or Obama supporters, it's people who view this contest as a war that needs to be won by destroying one's opponent by any means necessary. I agree with that in the GE, I don't agree with it when it's Democrat on Democrat.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:09 PM
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22. You've got a point
there's undoubtedly gutter politics on this side too. And though I've objected strenuously to such threads, I haven't dedicated an individual thread to it. Nevertheless, I'm going to add an edit to the OP
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:22 PM
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29. the sad thing
is that many on both sides of this won't recognize themselves in your post.

Thanks for a good OP.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:19 PM
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28. So then you should be emphathetic toward clinton supporters. We live in the sewer of
so many obamafolk overflow. Stinks!
we are prob. outnumbered her 100 to 1.


but i do not you have your moments. thank you.

but your OP is not one of your finer moments.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:34 PM
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34. I know it's tough to be outnumbered and I know that too many Obama
supporters make ugly attacks on Clinton. It does stink, but that still doesn't excuse people who fervently wish for a scandal to take down Obama and even post false stuff about him.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 04:01 PM
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50. Its in the press-----chicago and now nytimes. Expect more. He better buck up.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:00 PM
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13. Excellent post and very timely..thanks for posting..n/t
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:06 PM
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17. all of the same could be said for Obama supporters here.
what's the point in these posts? Politics going on?? Oh, my!
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:07 PM
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19. K & R
:thumbsup:
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:09 PM
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23. Not me. I've come to peace with the fact Obama is probably going to win.
I like him too.

So it works for me :)
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:39 PM
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37. Well, you're not in the category in any case
You're dignified and decent no matter who you are supporting. I will say that for you. :hi:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:40 PM
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38. I think that is very gracious of you. Huge, in fact.
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 03:43 PM by cliffordu
I said the other day that although I have lit up a few of the angrier Clinton supporters, I will support the straight Democratic ticket across the board. We have a historic opportunity here, as long as one of these people get into office and have the numbers in Congress and the House to do the job.

Edited to say: If Hillary wins, I'm there for her!


:thumbsup:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:10 PM
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24. I can tell u r taking some of these from a certain poster
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 03:11 PM by sniffa
I was just discussing with Bi-Baby the stages of grief of the HRC supporters, and where most of them are right now. Some have reached acceptance, and some are in despair.... but I'm a bit shocked to see that some are still in denial. It's weird.

edit: The fact that they're still in denial, will most likely lead to their tombstoning unless they're able to get through the anger phase before the one week reprieve is up.

K&R
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:13 PM
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26. "Some of them talk about Rezco in positively orgasmic terms"
lmao
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:47 PM
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45. What beats me is this
There is nothing to the house story. He bought a house and a piece of a lot next door.

There is nothing to the he worked for a slumlord story. He didn't.

There is nothing to the he took donations from a criminal story. He returned them in the same way numerous candidates have had to do.

Yet these three stories are pumped, pumped, pumped, day after day after day, even though they have been explained a hundred million times.

Now, could something, possibly, at some point in time, ever, hurt Obama through Rezko? Who the hell knows? It hasn't happened so far. BUT WE CAN"T WAIT!! :eyes:

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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:26 PM
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30. so, it's ok to point out the acts of wild animals, you just can't declare them as such?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:28 PM
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31. Your post doesn't make any sense.
Senator Clinton is not a wild animal. The metaphor is completely inept and unartful. You posted it with the intent to wound and to demean.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 04:14 PM
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51. I think you have higher standards for others than you keep for yourself
And I seriously question whether you should be considered an expert on Metaphor.

I posted it with the intent to make people laugh.

Just because your sense of humor is lacking, doesn't mean everybody's is.

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monomach Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:29 PM
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32. You're forgetting one important fact!
OH MY GOD REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO REZKO

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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:32 PM
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33. Never seen so many people bite into an apple hoping for a worm
They've pinned all their hopes and dreams on discovered or manufactured slime
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:40 PM
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39. Cali please wake up.
The Rezko trail is bad news waiting to happen.

The judge worked for Ken Starr on Whitewater and Fitz was part of the Plame mess. Rezko could be absolutely clean and this is still going to be trouble.

Slamming people for being worried about it is bizarre beyond words.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:44 PM
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42. No, it's really not. There is no indication of such.
And your desire to see Obama taken down is influencing how you feel. Oh, and your remark about Fitz is very odd. I can discern worry from panting desire.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:46 PM
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44. Since when do Reps need actual crimes to damage Dems?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:53 PM
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48. Why, may I ask, aren't you equally worried about Gupta
Hsu, and Giustra, then? That would be the giveaway.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:58 PM
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49. Why do you assume i'm not?
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:42 PM
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41. there's been a run on aluminum foil
by her campaign staffers
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:48 PM
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46. Here's a recent photo of just two of them.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:46 PM
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43. The only hope for Hillary is if a scandal takes Obama down before the convention
She can't win any other way.

Expect everything and the kitchen sink to be thrown Obama's way.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:49 PM
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47. Scandal is all they know though.
2 more days!! :woohoo:
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