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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:00 PM
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Why did Axelrod claim on "This Week" that Jay Rockefeller opposed the war in Iraq?
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 03:12 PM by ruggerson
when the fact is that Rockefeller voted the same way Clinton did on the IWR?

Axelrod used Rockefeller's endorsement of Obama to try to point out the distinction between Clinton and Obama's Iraq war judgements.

But the reality is Rockefeller and Clinton held the same views on Iraq and voted the exact same way.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Rockefellers_vote.html

"I noted when Jay Rockefeller endorsed Obama last week that he -- one of 29 Democratic Senators -- can't really serve as an Obama surrogate on the Iraq war, because he voted the same way as Hillary in 2002, to authorize the invasion.

David Axelrod, though, cast Rockefeller as a war opponent when he mentioned the West Virginia Senator's endorsement on This Week, referring to:

"Senator Jay Rockefeller, the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, who opposed the war in Iraq, who read the intelligence before the war, which Senator Clinton concedes she did not, and who said that Barack Obama has the judgment and the maturity and the vision to lead," he said.

Actually, I think the only way to say he opposed the war is to grant Clinton's claim that the vote for "a joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq" was not to vote for war."



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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:03 PM
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1. FWIW, CNN just had a story about Rockefeller's endorsement and
said the same thing. I didn't think to look it up.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:07 PM
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3. I think Axelrod got it wrong
not a big deal, but he shouldn't tout this endorsement as any kind of Iraq war judgement bona fides.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:14 PM
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9. He was touting Rockefeller's endorsement as chairman of the
Select Committee on Intelligence, too, which is a big deal, depending on who you ask.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:07 PM
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2. thx..
k&R...for the record.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:08 PM
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4. Did Rockefeller vote yeah on the Levin amendment?
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 03:08 PM by DJ13
That might be where this comes from.

:shrug:
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:09 PM
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5. Axelrod was on "This week" on ABC-Not MTP on NBC
If you can't even get which show he was on correct, why should I take anything that you have to say seriously?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:14 PM
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8. "If you can't even get which show he was on correct......."
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 03:20 PM by DJ13
No hard feelings.

:hi:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:15 PM
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10. thnx edited it
you're right, mixing up MTP and This Week invalidates the point.

:crazy:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:11 PM
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6. they can't have it both ways
they can't accuse Clinton of being for the war and use her IWR vote as proof and then turn around and tout Rockefeller as being "against the war in Iraq" when he voted the same way she did.

Especially if Barack is the nominee, this is the type of double standard Republicans will use to hammer us relentlessly.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:13 PM
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7. I didn't see it and don't know why Axelrod would have said that
Rockefeller said in his endorsement:

“The indisputable fact is Barack Obama was right about Iraq when many of us were wrong. It was a tough call and the single greatest national security question, and mistake, of our time.


http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/02/rockefeller_for.html

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:15 PM
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11. I think Axelrod screwed up. Oops.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:17 PM
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12. Either Axelrod is Rovian in that he will lie to your face...
with a straight face, or he f***ED this one up quite badly.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:24 PM
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14. I will give him the benefit of the doubt
and assume he made a mistake.

IT's not the kind of mistake he can afford to make this fall, however, if Obama is our standard bearer.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:18 PM
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13. Because he is a dishonest dirtbag perhaps?
Make Penn & Wolfson look like fuzzy bunnies delivering food for meals on wheels.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 04:29 PM
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16. Rockefeller
Rockefeller has the honesty to say he was wrong about Iraq, and Obama was right.

Hillary, not so much.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 04:45 PM
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17. How does that relate to Axle's statement that Rocky was against it from the beginning?
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:25 PM
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15. Because he made an error.
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 03:26 PM by Mass
I was surprised to see that Steph. or Wolfson did not catch it.
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