A poll to help some DU members overcome their confusion on an issue.

[MethuenProgressive]

Poll question: A poll to help some DU members overcome their confusion on an issue.

History will blame the Iraq War on:

[havocmom]

1. there is enough blame to go around. bush couldn't have done it alone

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

2. Nevermind.

Good poll, I should have read the question more carefully. :blush:

[blonndee]

3. Both Bush and his enablers. n.t.

[MrSlayer]

4. The Chimp and his cronies are primarily responsible.

But those in Congress who voted for it certainly must share in the blame.

[Johnny__Motown]

5. Everyone who contributed to it.... do you blame the civil war on just one person?

[BuyingThyme]

6. Nancy Pelosi.

[patrice]

7. I am reluctant and SAD to say . . .

Both - Definitely - Both.

They could have stopped him if they had wanted to.

[Ravy]

13. How? Bush didn't need their permission.

Any more than Clinton needed their permission for Kosovo.

[patrice]

28. You're right. I should have said they could have made more of a unified effort.

I know that's asking them to throw themselves on their "swords" - ALL of the opposition, that is, and it probably would not have stopped King George. So they would have been in a position of creating strong national objections AS the troops were going into Iraq, something they would have been reluctant to do as it might have harmed the troops and it could cost them their jobs, depending upon how they represented their moral decision to their voters. But moral decisions at any level (soldier, senator, citizen, or pResident) should always include a position of personal conscience.

I guess I just don't buy the idea that if they had gotten organized and applied all of their political talent to the case against Invaison of Iraq that it absolutely would NECESSARILY have resulted ONLY in political negatives and, as I said above, I believe the soldiers' conscience and, ergo, behavior on the matter is their own responsibility; if they think something is right, opposition, even from a senator, doesn't change a righteous act.

[liberal N proud]

8. If you had said the Republicans will blame the Iraq War on:

I would say Hillary Clinton because up until they got their asses handed to them in the 06 Congressional elections Clinton's were to blame for everything.

[David Zephyr]

9. Nice try to absolve Hillary's participation in Bush's war. It doesn't work.

History, to use your word, shows that she voted for and spoke in favor of the invasion.

I feel sorry for Hillary's supporters when it comes to Iraq as they are forced into creating such false arguments and choices as the one presented in the poll.

Your "poll" wasn't intended to "overcome confusion" as your title said, but to create it.

Your attempt failed.

[MethuenProgressive]

10. You do know that Bush violated the "IWR" don't you? That the neocons wanted this war in the 90s?

Your desperate longing for some pixie dust to twinkle your fantasy into reality is a sad commentary on your ability to participate in a responsible manner in this democracy.


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[David Zephyr]

31. Here's the "pixie dust". Your candidate feels compelled to continue losing.

.

[MethuenProgressive]

38. silly bamabots...

:kick:

[bigtree]

11. nice try to absolve Bush for his crime

History will prove your lie about Hillary speaking in favor of Bush's preemptive invasion false, as well.

[MethuenProgressive]

21. That's what the HillaryHaters want - to let Bush off the hook.

It's crazy.

[MethuenProgressive]

37. Nuts. I say. Nuts.

:kick:

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. 77 senators voted to go to war against Iraq

[Ravy]

15. No, they voted to go to war if Saddam didn't comply with UN resolutions.

That is a big if, one that makes all the difference in the war being illegal or not.

[proud2BlibKansan]

19. Point taken

I just think it is silly to blame Hillary for the war. If you blame her, you have to blame 77.

[MethuenProgressive]

16. And one state senator made one small speech at one small rally, and then fell silent

And that's the Highlight of his "record"? :shrug:

[Forkboy]

14. Both, and all the others who went along.

Naturally Bush deserves the largest helping of blame, but there's plenty leftover for the ones that voted to give that walking pus-filled boil a green light that anyone with more than a quarter of a brain knew he wanted.

[MethuenProgressive]

22. Well, Obama did vote *against* pulling our troops out by 2007...

So I suppose he too was just goin' along to get along...

[Forkboy]

23. No argument from me.

But if you think you can tarnish Obama's stance without reminding people of Hillary's vote then I have some beach front property in Missouri to sell you.

In the end he didn't vote for the war, just the funding (something even many Democrats believe was the right thing to do...not me, but I am pretty far left). Hillary voted for the war. This issue won't help you, but you're free to keep trying I guess. :shrug:

[Yael]

17. Where is the option for both?

[MethuenProgressive]

24. Nice Edwards pic.

How did he vote?

[Yael]

29. Unlike other bush-like politicians, he admitted he made a mistake

She will go down in the books as hand in hand with Mr. Bush on this one.

[invictus]

18. Bush could not have done it without Hillary's and other DINOs' help. n/t

[MethuenProgressive]

20. Actually he could've attacked and invaded without approval from Congress.

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0501-07.htm

[ihelpu2see]

25. Ofcourse, GWB but the blind overly patriotic press helped and millions of war

hungry Americans are also to blame.

[TSIAS]

26. Nice false choice

Of course, the disastrous policy will be forever linked with Bush/Cheney.

Clinton doesn't deserve singular blame, any more than the other 22 Dems who voted with the GOP.

[MethuenProgressive]

27. Bush.

That's the only choice. the only *rational* choice, that is.

[kdpeters]

30. Why is it that everything Hillary does is always someone else's fault?

[Radical Activist]

32. Bush, the media and cowardly Democrats who went along.

We don't need one of those cowards in the White House.

[Hepburn]

33. Dumbass Congress critters like HRC who ...

...gave up what the Constitution mandated they have as powers to a megalomaniac like Bush and who cannot figure out what the fuck went wrong and who are too stupid and too egotistical to admit a HUGE mistake and apologize like hell.

Any other questions?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

34. So Far There Are 16 People Who Are Really That Dumb? WOW...

:wow:

[oasis]

35. "..bipartisan support for this resolution makes its success in the United Nations more likely,

and therefore, war, less likely". HRC.

Answer: 100% George W. Bush's war.

[New Dawn]

36. Both! n/t