Hillary's "I take him at his word" response to the question of whether she believes Obama is Muslim

[Unsane]

Just now on 60 Minutes.

Do you believe Senator Obama is Muslim?

Clinton: "I take him at his word."


WTF does THAT mean? I take him at his word?

Wow, I will NEVER fucking vote for this piece of garbage. EVER. I will NEVER support someone who uses Rovian doublespeak to scare voters into thinking another Democratic candidate is muslim. So. Fucking. Sick.

This piece of trash will never receive my vote. John Fucking McCain hasn't even done this. Unreal.

[MonkeyFunk]

1. It means she doesn't believe he's a muslim....

I don't see what's so wrong with her response.

[JVS]

2. She needs to reject and denounce the lies concerning Obama's religious affiliation

[Unsane]

3. "I take him at his word"?

I.e. maybe he's lying! But I take him at his word, wink wink!



SICK

[WHAT]

114. but, didn't she take Rice at her word?...

speaks to judgment or lack thereof

[WHAT]

116. du posts on it...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4852593

this is what I was thinking of...

[kristopher]

5. I take him st his word, but I won't denounce/reject/repudiate those who question it.

She has really proven herself to be a vile person.

[lumberjack_jeff]

13. So being considered muslim is the most vile thing possible?

worse than being called, say, a murderer?

Selective hypersensitivity.

[Forkboy]

40. To the bigots out there? What do you think?

Nice try though.

[lumberjack_jeff]

84. So Hillary should have reacted as if SHE felt it was a horrible slur? n/t

[Forkboy]

85. No, she should have pointed out that the issue is trying to play into the hands of bigots.

Instead, she did the serving.

[Laurab]

41. No, however, as Hillary is quite aware Obama isn't a Muslim.

BUT - knowing that people viewing television aren't always the most educated voters, and many think being Muslim is a bad thing, she wanted to leave that little possibility in people's mind. THAT is vile. It was just another example of the dirty politics that are losing her the primary,

It's not "selective hypersensitivity" at all - she knew EXACTLY what she was doing, and it was vile.

[MonkeyFunk]

46. Which is why she said

"no, of course not." to the question. The OP leaves that out.

[kristopher]

45. Why is that relevant? Did someone ask Obama if he thought Hillary had Foster murdered?

Did he then reply "I take her at her word that she didn't?"

Do you think he would say something like that? Really?

You need to watch him more. Simply put, he is better than that.

[lumberjack_jeff]

90. It's a relevant gauge to the overreaction of his acolytes. n/t

[barb162]

108. Actually he's been distorting her vote on the IWR as saying she was

FOR the war so I don' know why she should be bending over defending him when he's been lying about her. She said she takes him at his word. That's a hell of a lot more than what he's giving to her with his disgusting distortions of her record. Sinmply stated, she's a hell of a lot better and more ethical than he is.

[kristopher]

118. I knew the IWR was a FOR war. Are you saying HIllary was too stupid to know that?

[barb162]

124. It was not a FOR war vote. That's an incredibly simplistic

reduction of that legislation. And speaking of stupid, here's St Barak:

"On July 27, 2004, he told the Chicago Tribune on Iraq: "There's not much of a difference between my position and George Bush's position at this stage."

SO why the heck is he doing the negative campaigning against Hillary again?

[kristopher]

129. *I* knew it was a vote for war. So did she. She was protecting presidential perogatives

[Hieronymus]

137. You mean like Hillary supporters contrive so many statements to .....

indicate sexism?

[TwilightGardener]

25. You know it was engineered to sow seeds of doubt, as if he might not be honest.

She knows it's a fact he's not a Muslim, but she refused to state that it was a fact and let it go. You are a smart guy, but even you must have a hard time defending this.

[formernaderite]

53. i'm no hillary fan but she had no way of answering differently

she couldn't come out and say...of course he's christian....cause it would look like she's saying there's something wrong with being muslim. It was a gotcha question... she had to be very diplomatic in answering it.

[earthlover]

76. Wrong. She was asked a simple yes or no question. All she had to do was say one syllable.

[rufus dog]

57. yes you do

be honest

[goclark]

66. She knows GD well he is not Muslim

That is the final straw!

"I did not have sex with that woman!"

I no longer take him at his word.

And while I'm at it ~ that remark was sexist about Monica. She has a name but he called her "that woman."

She should have said, " I did have sex with that man( added dates/time and acts) and he knows it!"

[MonkeyFunk]

134. Which is why she expressed at least 5 different ways

that she didn't believe he was a muslim.

[paperbag_ princess]

139. exactly!

This thread is about seeing things through Hillary hate glasses. It was very clear that she denounced the false "attacks."

[earthlover]

74. She was asked a simple YES OR NO QUESTION and she hedged!

She has learned how to dig a dagger into someone while smiling looking nice.

I don't think I can vote for her ever now. I agree that McCain has more class than this.

[MonkeyFunk]

94. She didn't hedge

Her first sentence in response was "No of course not."

[ORDem]

107. She's implying that there is room for doubt. She could have answered simply "No". n/t

The poster is correct, this is slimy. She knows it, too.

[AZBlue]

111. Oh please, you're not that stupid and neither are we.

Don't pretend either of us are so simple.

[davidinalameda]

4. it means that she doesn't believe him

[MonkeyFunk]

6. Only if you assign the opposite meaning

from what she said.

[lumberjack_jeff]

7. What other response is there?

Q: is Obama a muslim?
A: No.
Q: How do you know this?
A: Because he says he isn't, and I have no reason to distrust him on that score.

The fact that this was a ludicrously loaded question isn't really her fault.

Goddamn hypersensitivity is going to kill us.

[fenriswolf]

14. how about

no he is not, he has a long christian history that spans 2 decades of going to the same church, he has never shown the slightest hint that he might be muslim and I am personally offended if anyone tries to state that he is anything but what he states he is.

[OzarkDem]

17. She doesn't know him personally or intimately

any more than he does her.

[MonkeyFunk]

38. If you thought calling someone Muslim was a horrible slur

that might be a good answer.

[blogslut]

52. Why didn't Hillary say that?

Why didn't she look that reporter right in the eye and say:

"What's wrong with being a Muslim?"

She didn't say that though, did she?

[MonkeyFunk]

95. You guys would've

exploded ten times as hard if she did say that.

She said "No, of course not. I take him at his word."

What else was reasonable to say? All we can do is take people at their word when it comes to their religious beliefs - there's no other test that I know of to determine what people genuinely feel in their hearts.

[blogslut]

99. In the spirit of the staircase

I can think of many things I could have said if I were Hillary Clinton. I would have pointed out the inherent bigotry in using ethnicity and religion as some sort of slur. I would have said:

"That is a hateful question because it implies that there is something wrong with being Muslim. I won't answer that question."

But, that's just me being all l'esprit d'escalier. :)

[MonkeyFunk]

131. And this board would've exploded

because she wouldn't say Obama is not a Muslim.

She said at least five different ways that she didnt' believe he was a Muslim, and you guys still bitch.

[Beaverhausen]

21. well done

too bad the Obama folks don't see it.

[GeorgeGist]

48. How about ...

A. What difference does it make to you?

[earthlover]

78. She was asked a simple yes or no question. She should have said yes or no.

She chose to elaborate in a way that cast some doubts. Typical bullshit.

It is 3Am. Do you want a president capable of saying yes or no?

[MonkeyFunk]

135. She did say no

a few times.

[Hepburn]

140. Please be intellectually honest, OK?

You are smarter and better than buying into the bullshit you are saying. There is a HUGE difference between "NO" and a "QUALIFIED NO." Hillary engaged in the latter and we all know it. It is merely IMO that you cannot bring yourself to publically admit what she did was very disgusting and in the nature of damning with faint praise.

What she did was WRONG, very WRONG, because she encouraged fear and hatred and we both know that is a very slimy thing to do. You are better than what you support. Don't lower yourself to be like her.

JMHO

[smalll]

86. She could say, "No, He's not a Muslim. In fact, both his parents were atheists, and...

he belongs to a black supremacist Christian church."

I kind of like the "take him at his word" line though. Sure, it's sharp practice. But as Obama rides to victory on the basis of an epidemic of fucking OPEN fucking CAUCUSES, Republicans, "independents," patronage from the mighty Oprah, upper-income latte liberals who don't need a President (just an imaginary hip black friend,) love from the Russert & Matthews firm of boys' club media poobahs, the ageism and sexism of twenty-year-olds, and just generally clueless apoliticals who wounldn't even bother with Obamania except for the fact that American Idol is on re-runs right now, and they're jonesing to vote for some hack with "charisma" and Kelly Clarkson and Clay Aiken aren't available right now...

as he rides to victory on such an unholy alliance, anything's fair play from Hillary. At this point, vis-a-vis Obama, there SHOULD be blood.

GOMAMA!

[lumberjack_jeff]

89. LOL, better yet "I'm pretty sure Donny McClurkin isn't a muslim"

[conservdem]

8. This does not surprise me. She will say and try anything.

[burythehatchet]

9. I hate this type of shit that she does n/t

[Cha]

10. Why are they even asking stupid

crap like this? Can any political operative start a lie about a candidate and it gets asked on 60 minutes..right before the big vote on one of the primary Tues?

[Deja Q]

11. I missed the inflection, but

it might be as simple as that; my first instinct being "this is not an important issue, there are others far more worthy." If not "He says he isn't, I'll believe that, can we get onto something important please?"

Now I'm missing something, but that's my input from what I currently know. Which ain't much.

[Arkansas Granny]

12. Obama has repeatedly stated that he is a Christian. Therefore,

if she takes him at his word, she believes he is telling the truth and that he is a Christian. How is that Rovian doublespeak and how does it scare anyone into thinking he is muslim?

[yourguide]

it's the inference.

she's disgusting.

[tyne]

20. The correct answer

if you are an honorable person and care about your party is, "of course not".

Simple...and she knows it.

[Deja Q]

35. I had no idea this was a multiple choice test.

Simple, in retrospect I'll agree.

She knows it? Would you provide some proof; even a link will do.

[Laurab]

51. It's called common sense.

She knows it, you know it, and I can't understand anyone defending her on this. If these are her true colors, which I must believe they are, I don't even want her as my SENATOR anymore.

[OzarkDem]

15. What is she supposed to say?

She doesn't know him or his history personally. She's taking him at his word.

[Unsane]

18. "No"

[MonkeyFunk]

143. She did

at least 5 different ways.

[JerseygirlCT]

24. She's supposed to say that she knows he's a Christian, but

why would it matter? That these kinds of rumors only serve to divide us and further bigotry and hatred and that she wants no part of them.

Had she stood up like that, I'd be cheering.

[TwilightGardener]

42. There is no "word"--he has been publicly known as a Christian. It's not

a hidden personal fact that he needs to attest to, it's been covered time and again on the campaign trail. You've got to be kidding.

[jefferson_dem]

70. This isn't about his "word". This is about "NO, he's a Christian."

Period.

[TwilightGardener]

72. Yes--there is no need to equivocate, or ponder, or backtrack, or imply

that he MIGHT be Muslim, he SAYS no, we just don't have the proof.

[earthlover]

80. It was a yes or no question. She should have said yes or no. period.

[creeksneakers2]

112. She knows the accusation is false

and even fired supporters for spreading the E-mail about it. The whole thing has been investigated several times and she knows for a fact it isn't true.

[Double T]

16. Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. sure as hell isn't the name given to an Irish Catholic.

obama was a muslim in his childhood. Get over IT!

[JerseygirlCT]

31. No, I don't think he was. But it doesn't matter, anyway.

First, he's what he says he is, and nothing can change that. Second, the insidious idea that being Muslim is somehow suspect or bad is pure bigotry. And that's very, very nasty coming from someone calling herself a Democrat.

[ColesCountyDem]

32. He was?

I assume that you're prepared to post an appropriate reference to back up that assertion?

[Double T]

47. We have been through ALL this before. If YOU don't want to beleive.......

YOU won't.

[IDemo]

58. Debunked by Snopes and by Obama

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

Debunked Insight Magazine and Fox News Smear Campaign

In the past week, many of you have read a now thoroughly-debunked story by Insight Magazine, owned by the Washington Times, which cites unnamed sources close to a political campaign that claim Senator Obama was enrolled for “at least four years” in an Indonesian “Madrassa”. The article says the “sources” believe the Madrassa was “espousing Wahhabism,” a form of radical Islam.

Insight Magazine published these allegations without a single named source, and without doing any independent reporting to confirm or deny the allegations. Fox News quickly parroted the charges, and Fox and Friends host Steve Doocy went so far as to ask, “Why didn’t anybody ever mention that that man right there was raised — spent the first decade of his life, raised by his Muslim father — as a Muslim and was educated in a Madrassa?”

All of the claims about Senator Obama raised in the Insight Magazine piece were thoroughly debunked by CNN, which, instead of relying on unnamed sources, sent a reporter to Obama’s former school in Jakarta to check the facts.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/

Video: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/22/cnn-obama-debunk/

If Doocy or the staff at Fox and Friends had taken the time to check their facts, or simply made a call to his office, they would have learned that Senator Obama was not educated in a Madrassa, was not raised as a Muslim, and was not raised by his father – an atheist Obama met once in his life before he died.

********************************************************************

Stop pushing your lies here. You're only embarrassing yourself, whether you think so or not.

[ColesCountyDem]

147. Yes, we HAVE been through it, and it's been proven to be a vicious lie. n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

33. No, he wasn't.

Been drinking the RW Kool-Aid?

[Double T]

49. No. Just reading his AUTO-Biography.

[writes3000]

37. Good God, the ignorance of your post is staggering.

I thought our country was way beyond this kind of ignorance.

[Double T]

54. When YOU take time to be informed and objective...........

I would hardly call that ignorance.

[cliffordu]

79. No, it's not, and get ready for this slime 24/7 in the general election

:puke:
:argh:
:nuke:

[Alexander]

39. No, he was not a Muslim, this is just racist ignorance from you.

Get over it!

[Double T]

59. Ahhh. The race card is put on the table. Brilliant move.

Better check your facts.

[malik flavors]

61. He was never a Muslim. His grand parents were. His father was agnostic. Mother was Christian.

[jefferson_dem]

71. Link? Or do you just want to let it stand as a boldface lie?

[cliffordu]

75. You need a nice granite chicklet.....

[slinkerwink]

no, he wasn't a Muslim.

He was baptized as a Christian as an infant.

[Canuckistanian]

91. Wanna recheck your sources?

I'm sure that Sammy Davis Jr. wasn't a Jewish name, either. Obama is a Christian. Period.

And while we're on the subject, why the HELL would it matter if he was muslim?

Congressman Keith Ellison (D-MN) and his constituents don't think it matters, either.

[NMMNG]

98. A. You're full of shit

B. Not that there's anything wrong with being Muslim, except in the minds of hateful bigots.
C. I get the impression you fall into that "hateful bigot" category. But might be wrong.

[geek tragedy]

102. Back under your rock, Freeper worm. n/t

[Liberal Veteran]

126. Being dragged to church, synagogue, mosque as a child doesn't make one a follower of a faith.

If that were the case, I must be a Southern Baptist.

[MadBadger]

19. I dont know what to Make of this. It just seemed like an "odd" thing to say.

[blonndee]

22. What if they asked Obama if he believed she really did have Vince Foster killed

or some other kind of RW garbage, and he replied, "I take her at her word."

:wtf:

[Unsane]

28. yep

Not that we're equating being muslim with being a murderer, but the point is still good--it's RW garbage.

[blonndee]

36. Yeah, you know what I mean. I was just using something RWers spread about her.

FWIW, there is of course nothing wrong with being Muslim! But SHE knows that many people think there is and she's trying to imply that it's in question, and he MIGHT JUST BE A SCARY TERRORIST AFTER ALL. What a disgusting snake she is.

[conservdem]

29. You made your point well.

[tyne]

30. Do you think Chelsea Clinton

is the love child of Hillary and Janet Reno?

"No, I take her at her word."

[JerseygirlCT]

44. Remember the grief he was given by the Clinton camp when he

said "I think she's nice enough"?

Yes, he'd be slaughtered.

[LisaL]

122. WTF is wrong with "I take him at his word."

I can't believe it send Obama supporters into a tizzy.
I don't know how you people are gonna make it through GE if he actually gets the nomination.
Jeez.

[susankh4]

23. It means just what it says

She takes him to be what he says he is.

Why is that so difficult to understand?

[Glimmer of Hope]

26. Why the hell even ask this question. Was this another Katie interview?

Her response is weird.

[Patsy Stone]

56. The lead-in

was a question about the Drudge photo. This was the follow-up.

[DemGa]

27. The OP's premise is rubbish....nt

Ed. for clarity.

[Forkboy]

43. It sure was!

[zabet]

34. My perception must be weird then.

I took it to mean that she fully
believed what he said about his
religious convictions. She believed
him therefore we should believe him.
A man is only as good as his word.
Taking him at his word after all the
praise she has lavished on him, after
how many times she has said she was
honored to be present with Obama, she
puts great stock in his word.
For anyone to make it into a sly,
improvised innuendo is just a little
far-fetched. The only things negative
she has said about him has had to do
with campaign BS, like he has done about
her. They are grown-ups playing politics
and that doesn't matter at the end of the
day, they are both democrats and will be
representing us. One in the White House
and one in the Senate, do not think for a
second they will carry this campaign BS on
after the election. Supporters on both
sides need to see this and quit being
freakin' babies about every little thing.
Have we all forgotten about Iraq? Have we
forgotten that the chimp is still tearing
up the remnants of the Constitution while we
are distracted? FOCUS PEOPLE!!!

[Ysabel]

60. acccording to her his word means nothing...

N fucking T...

[zabet]

63. What leads you to that conclusion?

When asked about anything other
than campaign platforms and issue
positions, she has nothing but good
things to say about Obama.

[Ysabel]

65. i said NT...

- figure it out for yourself...

[zabet]

69. Neanderthal Thinker. Gotcha.

:rofl:

[AJH032]

50. I don't see what the big deal about that comment is

okay, so she takes him for what he says he is...so what? Hillary haters are really nuts.

Oh and by the way, you weren't going to vote for Hillary regardless of what she said. Nice try.

[Name removed]

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[classof56]

55. Left coaster here--Did they ask Obama if Hillary is a Christian?

Could he say yes, I observed her accept Christ as her Savior, follow the Lord in Baptism and receive the Holy Spirit? (The requirements for being called a Christian.)

Geez, this religion issue is getting to me. I am a born-again Baptist who at this point barely believes in God. Want to question my Christianity? You'll have to take my word for it!

Geez again! I clearly recall (yeah, I'm that old) when Jack Kennedy was elected president and the pastor of the Baptist church I belonged to predicted there would be no more elections and it wouldn't be long before we'd all be genuflecting and taking our marching orders from the Pope. Praise was lifted on high when an assassin's bullet put an end to that awful possibility!

Guess I'm wondering what would be so god-awful tragic if Obama was a Muslim, but that's just me in my current agnostic state. Anyway, glad to know you won't be wasting your vote on that "piece of trash" Hillary.

Tired Old Cynic

[NMMNG]

101. Don't expect anybody to hear you

Or respond rationally to you.

I expect the response I made on another thread that said something similar will get much the same response. :-(

[classof56]

106. Thank you, Buffy, for your response.

I had held out hope for some sort of rational reply, but I'll give up now. Having a bit of a problem dealing with all the negativity going on, but I expect I'll get over it. Nice to have a kindred spirit on the board! All these threads--I'm feeling unraveled, so to speak!

Blessings to you!

TOC

[Tropics_Dude83]

64. HRC's 'likable enough' moment

This is the same and in fact 10 times worse.

[NastyRiffraff]

67. Context? Tone of voice? anything?

It's REALLY hard to judge something like this based only on the printed word.

I've used "I take him at his word" a few times, to firmly defend friends and co-workers against stupid questions like this one.

Being that Hillary doesn't know the intimate details of Obama's life, I think she should stick to what she DOES know, personally. She doesn't want to get involved in this personal shit, nor should she. I think the proper answer to that silly question is either what she said or "He's said he isn't, and that's good enough for me" which is about the same thing as "I take his word."

Anything she could say about this is a loser, which is exactly why the question was asked. If she had refused to answer, people would have accused her of not defending Obama. If she had said, firmly, that no, defintely he is not, she knows he's a Christian, etc. there would have been further questioning. Why on earth would she want to get involved in Obama's personal life?

[jefferson_dem]

77. VIDEO Link here - - -

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x99904

[creeksneakers2]

115. That video is edited to leave out Hillary saying

"I have been the target of so many ridiculous rumors that I have great sympathy for anybody who gets smeared with the kind of rumors that go on all the time."

I'm very angry at Hillary and I swore I wouldn't defend her anymore but its so hard not to when so many half truths are told about her. If they are going to run a clip of what she said they should include the whole thing.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3897988n

[elana i am]

68. oh geeze!

i'm not doubting clinton's sincerity with this answer to such a loaded question, but she done put both feet in her mouth with that answer. here answer is one that is obviously left open to interpretation. when you say you take person's word for something it's inherently implied that there are potential reasons to not take a person at his word but you're just giving hem the benefit of the doubt. it's also implied that being muslim is a thing for which obama would have to apologize or atone.

such a loaded question should be easy to navigate for a presidential candidate, but she got all stupid and dove in that pool of quicksand head first.

[theothersnippywshrub]

73. Her lust for power has eaten away her soul

and the void has been filled with a thick, foul and evil sludge to such an extent that she makes Cheney and Rove seem like decent human beings. Like Cheney and Rove her only moral principle or basic value is that the ends justify the means. Her most vile attacks on Obama are yet to come.

[Tropics_Dude83]

87. Hillary Clinton has no soul and no heart n/t

[earthlover]

81. self delete

[Zorro]

82. So if Clinton is the Democratic candidate

you say you'll never vote for her? How very Republican.

You sound like a Vichy Democrat to me.

[Yael]

83. John McCain has more class than to do something like this.

I think even he said "ouch" tonight when this aired.

[Diane R]

88. She clearly values winning over being a decent human being.

[Faygo Kid]

92. Yes, that was the proverbial last straw - and a sign of what's coming.

I have given her and her supporters the benefit of the doubt, but that's it. It's obvious that no matter what happens Tuesday, she will not step aside. It will be up to the party leadership to make sure that she knows that there is no choice in the matter anymore.

That was the low point of her campaign. I suggest that it was also the end of it.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

93. Why Are There Like 10 Threads On This? Who Gives A Fuck? God, Some Get Outraged About Fucking

everything these days. Holy cow.

What's wrong with what she's said? She's saying if he says he's not muslim, that's good enough for her. Outrage outrage outrage. Always with the outrage. My god what are some here going to do when they run out of things to be outraged about.

[sendero]

96. They will..

... in about 2 days. the HRC bots can crawl back into the woodwork and STFU.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

97. You Could Use Growing Up A Bit, Ya Know That?

Seriously. Your reply was all sorts of childish and immature. Kind of implies you don't have much more capability then empty childish taunts in your arsenal. Makes ya look quite pathetic, actually.

[sendero]

103. Look..

... who's talking.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

105. Ahhhh, The I Know You Are But What Am I Defense. What Next? Gonna Call Me A Poopyhead Or Somethin?

[sendero]

141. Naw you're not a poopy head..

... just another hypocrite who dishes it out but thinks everyone else should play nice.

I cannot WAIT until Wednesday. I'm fed to the gills with the ridiculous charges on BOTH sides. Some of the arguments being made are not even worthy of a wingnut.

In the meantime, I intend to exercise my right of free expression. And if I cross the line, do alert on me and get the post removed, otherwise, tough shit if you don't like it.

[rexy]

100. I wish she would have stepped up and said something along the lines of...

"I do not believe he is a Muslim but I also think it's a shame that the media is trying to turn the word "muslim" into an insult by associating it with terrorism. This needs to stop NOW."


That would have brought her up several steps in my eyes.

[Forkboy]

104. If she said that I would have kissed her.

Maybe that's why she didn't. x(

[mudesi]

109. I have to bookmark this thread (nm)

[berni_mccoy]

110. Clinton had her Macaca Moment tonight. She's done.

[Major Hogwash]

133. Yup.

Only her base will vote for her now.

[jn2375]

113. Hillary just go away

[MadHound]

117. I guess it's because she's of the belief that if he's not in her Super Secret Fellowship

Then he's not really a Christian. After all, if you're a true Christian you go hang out with the likes of Santorum and Brownback <http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html>

[cooolandrew]

119. Whoa holy chessecake that is mind blowing. Well there goes her positive coverage.

To those in fefence it's not being for or against any religion but the distortion of the truth. Yeah, shetook him at his word, she wokrs with him and could logically say that she knew he wasn't muslim. The way she phrased it is to leave cause fordoubt, where there is none.

[angie_love]

120. OMG, I didn't catch 60 min, she said that??? Fucking trash!

I wanted to believe she was a good person but fuck that. What a disgusting prick to say that. I've lost all confidence in her.

[mth44sc]

121. She had a moment to be big

and she chose to be small.

Pity that...

[ZombieHorde]

123. I am guessing that you know

just how badly you are overreacting.

[workinclasszero]

125. Just when you think Hillary could not possibly sink any lower

into the pig wallow...

The woman disgusts me. What a vile republican thing to do!

She ought to be kicked out of the party! She acts just like a rethug, let her go to her soulmates!

[Horse with no Name]

127. Have you run out of things to be outraged about?

Why are you looking for "deeper meaning" into her words?
It's not her place to be obama's personal pooper scooper.
It just isn't.
She answered.
For all she knows...he attends secret Muslim meetings in his spare time that she knows nothing about.
She answered just fine without knowing what St. obama does every fucking minute of the day.

[workinclasszero]

128. For all she knows...he attends secret Muslim meetings in his spare time that she knows nothing about

Is that you Rove? McCain? Rush? Jr?

This is the level that Hillary has brought some democrats down to.

Sickening!:puke:

[Horse with no Name]

130. No...the LEVEL that they have been brought down to

is that you obamatrons think that EVERY FUCKING SINGLE person should cater to obama. obama NEEDS to fight his OWN fights...and not blame the other candidates when he doesn't.

[BigDaddy44]

146. I agree

It was a stupid question, and a perfectly acceptable answer.

[AGirl]

132. I don't fucking care about your false outrage n/t

[Hieronymus]

136. I agree, I think that is a sleazy answer .. and there ..

have been many by Hillary and her campaign.

[Apollo11]

138. Hillary gave a good answer to a dumb question.

SHAME ON YOU, Steve Croft, for asking Hillary about Obama's religion!

AND SHAME ON YOU, Obama supporters, for making out that Hillary was trying to gain some kind of political advantage by encouraging voters to be fearful of the possibility that Obama might be a Muslim.

PLUS PROPS to Hillary for dealing with this question with clarity and truthfulness. B-)

Hillary Clinton on CBS - 60 Minutes - March 2nd, 2008

KROFT: You don't believe that Senator Obama's a Muslim?

HILLARY: Of course not. I mean that's, you know, there is no basis for that. You know, I take him on the basis of what he says. And, you know, there isn't any reason to doubt that.

KROFT: You said you take Senator Obama at his word that he's not a Muslim.

HILLARY: Right. Right.

KROFT: You don't believe that he's a Muslim?

HILLARY: No. No. Why would I? There's no ... No. There's nothing to base that on - as far as I know.

KROFT: It's just scurillous ...

HILLARY: Look, I have been the target of so many ridiculous rumours. I have a great deal of sympathy for anyone who gets, you know, smeared by the kind of rumours that go on all the time.


You can see the whole video here:
www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3897988n

The part about Obama's religion is all in the final 3 minutes.

Hillary's answer is very clear and absolutely straight.

The problem with this whole discussion is that it confirms and underlines the widely-held prejudice that there is something wrong with being a Muslim. As if being a Muslim would somehow make a person "less American" than a Christian or a Jew or an Agnostic or an Atheist/Humanist/Rationalist.

If you ask, me, I think Hillary should have said "Well, as far as I know, Senator Obama is not a Muslim. Not that there's anything wrong with that!" B-)

[MethuenProgressive]

142. Another BS OP

I'll be glad when the HillaryHaters are all tombstoned and we Democrats can have DU back.

[Miss Chybil]

144. Would calling him a Muslim be such a bad thing?

It's sad to see so many so afraid somebody may be Muslim. In this case, Mr. Obama has said he is a Christian. I take him at his word.

And so... what does THAT mean?




Nothing.




This seems like a lot of outrage for nothing.

[Orsino]

145. Technically correct response, but a low blow...

...or a ludicrous faux pas. Can we not take it as fact that Obama is of the Christian faith? I do Clinton the favor of assuming she's is not secretly a Satanist; she should not pander to all the right-wing xenophobia.

[Unsane]

148. yup