Will Obama Or Clinton Hold Bush & Cheney Accountable?

[orleans]

if our congress will not now be bothered holding these fuckers accountable for the crimes they have committed against humanity, will our next president stand up for the people of this country and demand justice for not only us but for the rest of the world?

will they tell us (by actions or non actions) that crimes are not worth punishing, and say they have no time to go back to the past because they are currently too busy trying to get congress to "do the people's business"?

will they direct congress to act--at long last, and do the right thing?

or will they insist we let bygones be bygones, forgive and forget, "move on" and hope to god we the people have a short fucking memory?

[Blue_In_AK]

1. Don't count on it.

I'm looking for them to go all "Jerry Ford" on us.

[Johnny__Motown]

2. we need to see how well Bush covers his ass before he leaves. If there are blanket pardons issued

as the door hits him in the ass on the way out then there is very little that can be done.

Right now the best thing that can be done is to keep our powder dry and wait for these bastards to be out of office.

[napi21]

9. He can't pardon anyone for something they haven't been at least CHARGED with!

How the hell can he issue blanket pardons to his entire administration? I honestly don't think he can do THAT!

[MrSlayer]

3. Absolutely not.

The Clintons already had a chance and did not do it and Obama isn't going to rock the power boat anymore than they did. It's a rigged game.

[orleans]

5. sorry--maybe i'm a little slow here, but when did the clintons already

have the chance to hold bush/cheney accountable?

[MrSlayer]

12. In 1993 when Bill took office.

They let Poppy Bush and his cabal (including Cheney) off the hook for Iran/Contra and AIPAC scandals. Convicting those assholes back then would have avoided the Chimp/Cheney criminal rampage that has been going on for the last seven years. They instead closed the books on the investigations. Look it up. They had the chance and did nothing. Of course, Ford's pardoning of Nixon and many of the same people who went on to do Iran/Contra was the same thing. All of this could have been stopped if he had let Justice prevail in the 70's. But justice never prevails over these people and that trend will continue no matter who gets to the White House in this cycle.

[orleans]

14. .

:cry:

then i guess i shouldn't be getting my hopes up, should i?

[MrSlayer]

15. Sadly, no.

And it just goes to show that the whole legal process and election process and in fact all of the things America is supossed to stand for are just a smokescreen for the ruling class. The robber barons if you will. The whole thing is a farce. I follow politics because they interest me but it's all bullshit like the WWF.

[JimGinPA]

4. The Clintons Certainly Won't

Their "interests" are intertwined.

[emilyg]

16. Neither will.

[napi21]

6. No I don't think so, but I will say if there's any chance that anyone

MIGHT, it would be Clinton. They are human, and it would be totally unnatural if they don't have some hatred for what the Pubs did to them for damn near 16 years. That would HAVE to be in their mind to get at least some retribution. I still doubt it, but I feel positive that Mr. let's unite the Country WON'T!

[seriousstan]

7. neither

[tblue]

8. Doubtful. It's 'off the table' (and onto the floor and then my poor meatball rolled out of the door)

[orleans]

10. crap!

(is that a picture you have of randi? she's my goddess!)

and in relation to your comment:

[tblue]

13. Yep. She's my girl. And Stephanie Miller.

Thank you for the meatball!

[Horse with no Name]

11. No.

Neither of them will.
But you get what you deserve and THAT should have been the ONE thing that supporters of either candidate insisted on.
But they didn't.
They accepted the shiny tokens and went to the carnival and rode the trains instead.

[Eric J in MN]

17. No, they won't. NT

NT

[MadBadger]

18. Out of our original candidates, only DK and Gravel would possibly

[theboss]

19. No way.

No President is going to get into this game of trying to prosecute the previous President. Down that path, banana republics lie.

[bowens43]

20. No, neither will McCain.

what's yuor point?

[orleans]

23. of course mccain won't do shit. but i have no hope or good

expectations of him. republicans never let me down because of that. i am never disappointed by republicans because of that. i always expect the worst from them. when something good happens i am always surprised.

it's the democrats that hold my trust and hope and expectations. it's the democrats who i expect to do the right thing. and, unfortunately, it's the democrats that i have found--the past couple of years--to be sadly disappointing.

that's my point.

[mattclearing]

21. I would hope that Obama will appoint a commission to investigate and undo the damage.

I don't really trust the Clintons to do it, as they are Bush BFF's and all. :)

[shaniqua6392]

22. Neither of them will do anything about Bush and Cheney.

Neither of them are that courageous. They hardly ever mention Bush/Cheney or the injustices imposed on America. Our two candidates will be as effective as the congress we elected in November of 2006. If we are expecting them to change anything Bush has done, we will be sadly disappointed.

[Independent-Voter]

24. Doubt it, and Congress has shown no interest in it either. They've been a real disappointment.

[leftofthedial]

25. neither will

they'll claim to be focused on a forward-looking agenda and trying to help the nation "heal"


just like Bill Clinton before them, they'll just sweep it all under the rug and hope the RW hate machine doesn't assassinate them.