What Is Momentum?

[Exilednight]

Is the big Mo when you come from behind and win eleven primaries in a row?

Is it taking a state where you trailed by 20 points and bring it even?

Is it losing a 20 point lead to a statistical dead lock?

Is it winning a state that you had a 20 point lead and allowing your opponent to almost catch up to you?

Is momentum shifted when you win a race that you were expected to win, but also break your opponents 11 primary wins?

Help me out here.

[Deep13]

1. mass times velocity

In the political context it is when people begin to accept a growing concensus because they desire to be on the winning side.

[ProSense]

2. Here is what it looks like:

It appears to belong to Obama

[Deep13]

4. We all know she was ahead by a lot because of name recognition.

That was before the primary process really began.

[Exilednight]

3. I will give Hillary supporters this. They are loyal beyond imagination.

[Deep13]

5. Wrong.

Many of us supported other candidates before all the good ones dropped out. Now I simply see it as a choice between style without substance versus substance without style.

[hfojvt]

13. style without substance is a Clinton talking point

and I am unimpressed by the DLC substance in Clinton's campaign.

[Deep13]

15. It was a Bush talking point in 1992.

There may not be a lot of substance in HC's campaign, but I am talking about the substance of the individual.

[Exilednight]

16. I don't see any more, or lack of, substance between Hillary and Obama. .....

Hillary stumps that Obama has no substance, but that's all her stump speech is about.

She's so busy pointing out that Obama has no substance that she forgets to talk about her substance.

[Deep13]

21. I think far to much attention is being paid to what the candidates...

...are talking about and not enough on who they are.

[JimGinPA]

6. Doesn't Matter - She's A "Fighter"

That works nights. So what if she's a Bu$hco enabler.

[HooptieWagon]

10. The guys in the Alamo were fighters

didn't work out too well for them, either.

[Exilednight]

11. But we'll always remember the Alamo, just like I will always remember this primary.

[Deep13]

12. She is not a Bushco enabler.

And pointing out the flaws in my candidate doesn't make yours any better.

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. When momentum favors Barack Obama, it is crowd behavior, bandwagon effect

mass delusion, cult, emotionalism, Tulip mania, information cascade, messianic irrationality, and spooky trance.

When the momentum favors Hillary Clinton, it is righteous resistance, thoughtful realization, the general spread of rational examination, scientific sobriety, careful rigor, policy-centered rational decision-making, and general Enlightenment.

Thus sayeth p. 67 of the Clinton Handbook on Definitional Argument. Amen.

[Hutzpa]

9. Amen! brother

Thus sayeth the Clinton's.


:eyes:

[hfojvt]

14. either way it's the M$M trying to get the sheeple to stampede

I was hoping it was gonna work in my favor this time, but the M$M seemed to have switched sides.

[Kaylee]

17. So true......

[David Zephyr]

8. K&R.

:thumbsup:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

18. With The Media And Momentum On His Side To The Degree It Has Been, He Should Be Far Ahead By Now.

He's not, and it seems like he's peaked in certain ways. I think that's why it feels like the momentum may be in the beginning of a shift.

With all he had going for him, all the supposed negative tirades against every possible action from Hillary one could muster, all the media support, all the snowballing momentum, I fully expected the polls in both Ohio and Texas to be COMFORTABLY on his side by now. I'm not talking about weeks ago or months ago numbers, I'm talking about recent numbers and trends and where taking the CURRENT situation into consideration, where I would've expected the numbers to be by now. But they're not there, not by a longshot. In fact, there may be signs he's slipping a little, though albeit very little. But still, the fact he hasn't completely closed the deal yet in those states, when based on all he had going for him one would think he absolutely would've by now, is absolutely reason to discuss that the momentum may be shifting a bit.

Tomorrow's gonna be an interesting day!

[Exilednight]

19. He's closed the gap by more than 2 points a day. Hillary was expected to win by big margins....

No other candidate has closed the gap that quickly in any election that I can remember without the other candidate committing a major SNAFU.

Hillary has had her gaffes, but hasn't dealt herself the Dean Scream yet. All things considered, Obama has done an excellent job in just catching up. Less than a week ago the Clinton campaign was saying she needed major victories, now they will settle for minor losses.

How much further can she shift the goal posts?

[TahitiNut]

20. Angular momentum is inherent in spin.

:shrug: