Hillary says she "wont ever drop out of the race. no matter what happens"

[meow mix]

even if she loses every state.

per msnbc just now..

[Independent-Voter]

1. I hope she stays in and continues to drive the bus into the ditch.

[Kaylee]

19. But unfortunately, she will destroy the party with her.

Neither one of them will be electable after the bloody, pulps they become as a result of this primary race.

[Independent-Voter]

23. True - if she doesn't pull out a blowout tomorrow, somebody needs to sit her down for a talk

[my2sense]

2. Another Case of bad judgement n/t

[lse7581011]

3. How Unifying of Her!

:sarcasm:

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

4. Just gives her more time to tap into her "inner Rove," and put the screws to Obama. . .

At this point, nothing Hillary does would surprise me.

[helderheid]

5. I'm not surprised.

[yourguide]

6. are you sure?

did she say that or one of the talking heads?

[meow mix]

10. the talking head was quoting her..

theyll go back to it sometime here, i think..

[yourguide]

12. Ok, I am nowhere near a TV

but I want to make sure this isnt a misquote. wow.

[gateley]

29. But it could be the reporter's interpretation - or downright spin.

I'll wait to hear HER say it, in the ENTIRE quote before I run with it.

That being said, I sure hope it's not true. If I were in her shoes, I THINK I would see that my opponent was the one the majority of people really wanted, and lick my wounds and bow out. It's almost as though she will do anything it takes to win, even by the smallest margin, and without thought of how many would view her as a result of her "do or die" approach.

Now, more than ever, we need to be united behind our nominee so the sooner one or the other becomes official, the better.

Sigh.

[gateley]

7. DId they just report that -

or did they show a clip of her saying that?

I've come to mistrust the news reports because they're so often paraphrasing (poorly at times) what the actual quote was.

Thanks!

[SteppingRazor]

8. Well, to be fair, she has to say that.

I can't think of any major candidate who has said she/he WILL drop out if certain states are not one, certain fundraising goals are not met, or what have you.

[David Zephyr]

9. "My husband didn't wrap up his nomination until June..." --- Hillary Clinton

We will all know and see the true Clintons Tuesday night. Everything we need to know will be there to see.

[peoli]

16. Against the last man standing, JERRY BROWN.

BROWN FOR PRESIDENT! '92!

[high density]

11. I guess that means she'll be loaning her campaign more money

In her defense she has been pretty good at raising money, especially considering she has been a perpetual loser once the race progressed beyond name recognition.

[Little Star]

13. He needs the knock out and he just can't get it! Too bad for him.

This Tuesday is his third try. Bet he can't do it! This thing is not over by a long shot. What do you people have about letting other states have a say in this primary? Whatever........

[JackORoses]

54. She hasn't been able to land a punch in nearly a month. And you think he is the one who needs a KO?

He is winning. Hillary is the one who needs to catch up, and breaking even just won't cut it.

She needs blowouts in Ohio and Texas. If she fails to get them, then her chance has come and gone.

[Medusa]

85. it's HER third try. Not his. He's the winning candidate

not Hillary. This BS meme being put forward by the Clinton campaign is desperation at it's finest. Keep moving the goalposts and you think you might just hit one through the goalposts huh? Keep on dreaming--take a look at the latest PA polling-he's gaining fast there. The burden is on her to win and to win BIG tomorrow or STFU and go home. She's worse than Huckabee, hell she is OUR Huckabee--and we know how he's portrayed in the media-she's far worse. She's squandered money, resources, etc. and what has she got to show for it? A losing record and a campaign so desperate it will use any means necessary to win--lying, cheating, smearing, whatever it takes.

[Thrill]

14. I told you. They'll have to drag her out of the Convention, kicking and screaming

[havocmom]

24. Old hands have gotta be thinking '68 may have been a cake walk compared to what is coming

:banghead:

[C_U_L8R]

15. That's just darn creepy

did she really say that ?

[pnwmom]

17. It would be STUPID of her to say anything else on the eve

of two important contests. Anything else than complete determination will hurt her.

[L0oniX]

18. BREAKING: Obama wins the GE ....Hillary says she wont drop out of the race no matter what happens.

:sarcasm:

[havocmom]

27. Weeeel, there has been a precident set for squatters in the WH

not much would surprise me anymore*


* gads, I miss NSMA around here!

[havocmom]

20. Pulling a Lieberman, is she?

Ambition is good. But there is such a thing as too much of a good thing. We don't need four more years of 'I'm the decider' snarls at the will of the American people.

[HooptieWagon]

21. It's not unexpected she'd play the vengeful witch card

the only question is when does the DNC step in and cart her away?
We know H thinks of herself first and foremost, but I assume DNC leaders at some point will think of the good of the party, and call a halt to her scorched earth strategy.

[LostinVA]

38. "vengeful witch card"

[Debi]

42. She's gonna get you my pretty - and your little dog too

:banghead:

[LostinVA]

47. It's all so insane -- I may need a Monday spanking

[Debi]

50. Did that asshole get TSd? Or is he still around?

:spank: for you m'dear!

[LostinVA]

53. Guess what?

He started a thread in GDP today, so he's still here! I think he's your sockpuppet.

"WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU!"

hehehehehhehehehe

HARDER, COUGEREE!!!

[Debi]

57. Shhhhhhh

Sockpuppet/alter-ego/Jekyll-Hyde

C'mon, I'm more clever than THAT!~

[LostinVA]

62. You DID marry a male cougar, so you are quite clever -- I agree

I think we blew their minds on Friday, seriously. Haruka and I were talking about it: some posters couldn't grasp the HRC poster and the Obama poster indulging in cyber spankings.

[Debi]

67. Because the disruptors here don't understand that come general election time

we will all be on the same side (well - at least taking turns giving and receiving) :P. Truly, though, getting upset about our banter kind of shined the light on the jackass. Why so uptight? Seems he's the one who needed a little tension reliever! :hi:

[LostinVA]

69. I know

THAT was the most bizarre post in the whole mess.

I love cyber spankies with you ALMOST as real ones by the Cougeree at home.

[backscatter712]

22. Typical faux optimism.

Hillary's losing and she knows it. She just can't admit it publicly on the eve of an election, when she's still trying to rack in votes and donations and such. She has to keep selling her campaign like it's the winning campaign.

She'll be in full Baghdad Bob mode right up to the minute she announces she's suspending her campaign.

[anamandujano]

25. Glad to hear it.

Anything about the trial yet?

[Hawkeye-X]

84. Voir dire just started

No Obama sightings in the courthouse in Chicago.

Sorry to report that..

And Patrick Fitzgerald looks handsome with his new tie!!!11

:sarcasm:

[Thurston Howell III]

26. Sabre rattling. Of course she can't say anything else.

She'll drop a couple of days or so after tomorrow.

[OhioChick]

28. Nice....

She's already divided the party.

[truebrit71]

31. Hasn't she just...

...and she's proven herself to be a graduate of the Rovian school of politics...just another reason out of many why I despise her...

[MonkeyFunk]

41. I love the assertion

that SHE'S divided the party by not capitulating to Obama.

Why isn't Obama dividing the party by not capitulating to Clinton?

[BigDaddy44]

49. Because you don't capitulate when you're winning

Obama is winning. Clinton is losing. Even if she wins a few states on Tuesday she'll be losing. She might regain some momentum, but she's also running out of runway.

[MonkeyFunk]

60. And Obama's not likely to secure enough

pledged delegates to get the nomination.

There was a time when she was winning - people weren't clamoring for Obama to drop out then. Why are you guys so afraid of letting the primaries play out?

[BigDaddy44]

77. okay

The primaries play out. And, barring a miracle, Obama will have more pledged delegates. But not enough to secure the nomination. Then we move to the super delegates. If Hillary lures enough, then the popular vote winner loses to the delegate winner. Bush V. Gore 2000 anyone?

This is the scenario that tears the party apart. I'm just playing devils advocate here, but if she loses in delegates through the primary process, and then wrestles the nomination through super delegates, it will be very very very ugly.

[Name removed]

30. Deleted message

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[MyNameGoesHere]

33. Isn't that a dumb thing to say?

You want to blow up? 13 virgins? I think you should pick another dumb ass thing to say as this one is not funny.

[Kokonoe]

61. deleted

[tabasco]

32. It's all about ME!!!!

It's my turn!

[CoffeeCat]

34. Good!

Hillary Clinton will look like a sore loser, an in-denial freak and a person
who cannot accept that she is no longer "inevitable."

Fine. Instead of bowing out gracefully, she'll look like a fool.

It's about time more people saw the real Hillary. She's unparalleled when she's behind as
she pontificates about "celestial choirs" and such.

I want to see more of Hillary imploding, so that she will be so destroyed after
this campaign, that she'll have no power in the Senate and she might eventually lose
her Senate seat.

[skipos]

35. Clinton/Huckabee 08: we didn't major in math. nt

[JackORoses]

36. then she will be forced out kicking and screaming like the spoiled brat she is

The Superdelegates will move to Obama and give him 2025.

This is not Hillary's party, it's the People's Party.

[rox63]

37. Yeah, but Edwards also said he would stay in until the convention

Until just a couple of days before he dropped out.

[LostinVA]

39. Link? Context? Exact quote?

[Debi]

40. That's the way to be a team player!

:thumbsup:

I'm just glad she's finally being honest about it.

She expected - no demanded - the Presidency and if she can't have it she'll make certain no Democrat gets it.

Is this the beginning of the Hillary 2012 campaign? check to see if the domain names are snatched up already!

[anamandujano]

43. As you know, the team Captain has not been voted in yet.

[Debi]

55. I am aware

:hi:

[amborin]

44. when Rezco breaks wide open, she will be the nominee

[Debi]

52. And what happens when Hsu goes to trial? Or Paul?

How will that help her campaign?

[Beausoir]

45. Dozens of people respond to a made-up quote?? Where's the LINK?

[meow mix]

48. lol they covered it for like 30 mins with some hillary guest and everything..

was on msnbc was sitting here watching it sorry =)

[Beausoir]

56. So, you admit you are just making stuff up. Quelle surprise.

No sale.

[Barack_America]

71. Nope. This was said on MSNBC.

Unfortunately, they did not reveal their source, that I heard at least.

[Beausoir]

73. Again. No source. NO LINK. NO NAME given? Fabricated bullshit.

You'll have to know better than that.

[Barack_America]

74. Please note that I am NOT the OP.

The OP heard it and I heard it. Therefore, if anyone is fabricating it, it is MSNBC.

Think it through logically.

[Beausoir]

76. Let's make this simple. Tell me WHO said it on MSNBC.

[Barack_America]

81. The anchorperson, apparently summarizing the following statements...

...perhaps unfairly.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/03/clinton_says_shes_pushing_ahea.php

I'm still looking for other sources.

[Beausoir]

86. "..perhaps unfairly". D'ya THINK?

Like I said...pure fabrication. Pathetic.

[Barack_America]

88. Um, until I can confirm that there are no sources to back it up...

...then yes, "perhaps" is the right word. Unlike some, I prefer to know my facts before I start claiming "fair" or "foul".

You ought to be careful of jumping to the conclusion that something is "fabricated" simply because you would prefer it not to be true.

[Beausoir]

89. "I prefer to know my facts .." LOL! You just swarmed all over an unsubstantiated quote!

You couldn't even give a basic description of the person you claim you heard say it.

Fabricated, false, pulled out of thin-air nonsense.

Tell ya what...when you DO find FACTS about Hillary Clinton saying EXACTLY what is quoted in the OP...post it here. M'kay?

We'll wait.

[Barack_America]

90. Please give me a quote of where I "swarmed" over this.

I simply pointed out to you, after you called the OP a liar, that I too heard the quote and that if anyone was lying, it was MSNBC.

But please inform me where I claimed that this quote was true and that Hillary was wrong for saying it.

I'll wait.

[Beausoir]

91. No. n/t

[berni_mccoy]

92. Video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7eAnx6Vxrs

It's at the very end.

[TwilightGardener]

46. That's OK. We'll see what Obama is made of in the next few weeks. I think

he will improve his game and hit her harder. I hope he starts getting negative on her ass.

[BeyondGeography]

51. Do we get to see her tax returns, then?

Just for shits and giggles.

Oh, and those Clinton Foundation donors, too.

You want to stick it out, Senator, it will cost you.

[Sir Jeffrey]

58. This is just red meat for her supporters...

I watched Edwards say essentially the same thing a few days before he dropped out.

I really do think that she will step aside if she doesn't win TX, OH, and RI. If she doesn't, she will be forced out somehow. Either her superdelegates will abandon her or she will just run out of money.

[Catherine Vincent]

59. Now why post something like that?

You know this will scare the Obama supporters here!

[Beausoir]

63. NOTE: The OP has no link. No PROOF. It's fabricated.

[Barack_America]

70. I heard it too. So, if it's fabricated, it was done so by MSNBC, not the OP. n/t

[Beausoir]

75. WHO said it then? You claim you heard it. WHO was the source?

Surely you can come up with one name?

Not even a name? How about a gender? Was it a man or woman? Was it a reporter? Was it a person on the street?

Surely you must remeber some distinguishing features about this person?

[Az_lefty]

64. self delete...wrong thread

[Vinca]

65. Then it's obvious - she doesn't give a damn about country or party,

only Hillary, Bill and the power they can attain. What a pair.

[SeaLyons]

66. Good for Hillary

[amborin]

68. Rezco really stinks

and leaves many strange, unanswered questions:

The New York Times

June 14, 2007 Thursday
Late Edition - Final

An Obama Patron and Friend Until an Indictment in Illinois

BYLINE: By CHRISTOPHER DREW and MIKE McINTIRE

Antoin Rezko, an entrepreneur of considerable charm who found riches in fast food and real estate, is known around Chicago as a collector of politicians.

Back in the 1990s, Mr. Rezko's office was adorned with framed photos of candidates he viewed as up-and-comers. Among them was Barack Obama, a state legislator whose first campaign donations included $2,000 from Mr. Rezko's companies. As Mr. Obama built a career that carried him to the Senate in 2004, Mr. Rezko was there with him, holding fund-raisers and rallying support.

Now, as Mr. Obama runs for president, the once-beneficial relationship with his old friend and patron has become problematic.

Last fall, Mr. Rezko was indicted on federal charges of business fraud and influence peddling involving the administration of Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich of Illinois, whose picture was also on Mr. Rezko's wall. Since then, Mr. Obama, a Democrat, has had to answer questions about a land deal with Mr. Rezko's wife, Rita, and about other ties to him.

Since early June, Mr. Obama has given to charity more than $21,000 in donations that his Senate campaign had received from Rezko associates now linked to the federal inquiries. He gave away $11,500 from Mr. Rezko himself last fall.

Mr. Obama says he never did any favors for Mr. Rezko, who raised about $150,000 for his campaigns over the years and was once one of the most powerful men in Illinois. There is no sign that Mr. Obama, who declined to be interviewed for this article, did anything improper.

Mr. Obama has portrayed Mr. Rezko as a one-time fund-raiser whom he had occasionally seen socially. But interviews with more than a dozen political and business associates suggest that the two men were closer than the senator has indicated.

Mr. Obama turned to Mr. Rezko for help at several important junctures. Records show that when Mr. Obama needed cash in the waning days of his losing 2000 Congressional campaign, Mr. Rezko rounded up thousands of dollars from business contacts. In 2003, Mr. Rezko helped Mr. Obama expand his fund-raising for the Senate primary by being host of a dinner at his Mediterranean-style home for 150 people, including some whose names have since come up in the influence scandal.

And when Mr. Obama and his wife, Michelle, bought a house in 2005, Mr. Rezko stepped in again. Even though his finances were deteriorating, Mr. Rezko arranged for his wife to buy an adjacent lot, and she later sold the Obamas a 10-foot-wide strip of land that expanded their yard.

The land sale occurred after it had been reported that Mr. Rezko was under federal investigation. That awkward fact prompted Mr. Obama, who has cast himself as largely free from the normal influences of politics, to express regret over what he called his own bad judgment.

''Senator Obama is a very intelligent man, and everyone by then was very familiar with who Tony Rezko was,'' said Cindi Canary, executive director of the Illinois Campaign for Political Reform, a nonpartisan research group. ''So it was a little stunning that so late in the game Senator Obama would still have such close involvement with Rezko.''

While it is not clear what Mr. Rezko got from the relationship, he liked to display his alliances with politicians, including Mr. Obama.

In one instance, when he was running for the Senate, Mr. Obama stopped by to shake hands while Mr. Rezko, an immigrant from Syria, was entertaining Middle Eastern bankers considering an investment in one of his projects.

with $14 million in government money, The Chicago Sun-Times reported in its June 13 editions. The developers received $855,000 in fees.]

Mr. Obama's spokesman, Bill Burton, said the senator was one of several politicians who intervened because the project was important to local residents.

[anamnua]

72. Winston Churchill in 1940

we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender

[IDemo]

I'm not seeing "wont ever drop out of the race. no matter what happens"

not in so many words, anyway. This is the latest story I see this morning on msnbc.com:

Clinton suggests she'll stay in race after Tuesday
Says the competitive primary contest would be good for the party

updated 1 hour, 9 minutes ago

TOLEDO, Ohio - Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton suggested Monday she'll press on with the campaign after Tuesday's crucial primaries, arguing that momentum is on her side despite 11 straight losses to rival Sen. Barack Obama.

"I'm just getting warmed up," Clinton told reporters, looking ahead to a busy day of campaign events in Ohio and Texas where polls show a close race ahead of Tuesday's primaries.

Clinton's husband, former President Clinton, has asserted that his wife must win both Texas and Ohio to keep her campaign alive. On Friday, Hillary Clinton's advisers recast the stakes, saying if Obama lost any of the four presidential primaries Tuesday — Rhode Island and Vermont also vote — it would show Democrats are having second thoughts about him.

Hillary Clinton predicted success on Tuesday and looked ahead to the next big contest — Pennsylvania on April 22.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23449474/

[BlackVelvet04]

78. Good. n/t

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

79. HukaHill?

[Hawkeye-X]

80. Then she'll become the Gravel of the campaign season

She'll be largely ignored by everyone because she doesn't know shit from shinola.

She is OUT tomorrow, and the Democratic leaders and the superdelegates will abandon her and declare her unsustainable and order her back to DC to resume her Senate career, then be defeated by a New York progressive in '12, retire to babble for money.

Hawkeye-X

[GoneOffShore]

87. "retire to babble for money"

:rofl:
:spank:

One can only hope.

Edited to add snarky comment.

[MadHound]

82. Hillary is completely williing to sacrifice the good of this party and the American people

On the altar of her greed, ambition and vanity. What really worries me is that if she takes this all the way to the convention, and then winds up twisting enough superdelegate's arms to get the nomination, against the will of the people as expressed in the popular vote. Sure, she'll have the nomination, but enough people will be so turned off by these undemocratic tactics that they'll abandon the party this fall.

With Hillary, it isn't about the party or the people, it's all about her:puke:

[Bigleaf]

83. Why do you all fall for this shit? If she goes down this road, the

party and Superdelegates will bury her swiftly and she can forget about running for office again, at least as a Democrat. She can shout and scream this shit all she wants, it won't help her. I've got to give Hillary credit and think that she would know when it is right to end this thing, probably this week once that she sees she maybe gains/nets a handful of pledged delegates tomorrow.

[meow mix]

93. I just saw this again on msnbc

just sayin

[meow mix]

94. now its "win or lose, Hillary vows to go on"

[Arugula Latte]

95. Veruca Clinton has really gone off the deep end. nt