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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:19 PM
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Hillary has every right to stay in the race for however long
she feels is appropriate. That said, as it becomes more apparent that Barack will win the nomination she will need to eschew measures which can weaken Obama and/or the Democratic Party in November. Specifically she will have to(i) abandon her efforts to count the Michigan and Florida delegations in the nomination tally and (ii) restrain the attack-dog impulses of the Penn/Wolfson cabal within her campaign. Senator Clinton can emerge from this process with her reputation and dignity intact and assume a major leadership role in the Senate and the Party. But only if she refrains from the trashing of the person whom the Democratic Party will have chosen to wrest power from the hands of the RWers who have brought the nation to its lowest ebb since Watergate.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:24 PM
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1. does BO's dirty tricks campaign (such as playing the race card and blaming hillary for it)
not weaken the party?

all the weight people put on hillary's shoulder ... Mr. BO holds a great deal of responsibility for splitting the party too. And, he did not have to wait to the end of the primaries to do it.

He has done it since day one.

So. Yes. Hillary has every right to stay in the race for as long as she wants to.

And, this talk about splitting the party? Who really has done the most splitting?

I don't think it is Hillary. Others are free to disagree.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:31 PM
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5. Just How Did ObamaTrick Bubba Into The "Jesse Jackson" Remarks?
:shrug:
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:05 PM
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11. one of the best explanations is found here:
http://www.tnr.com/story_print.html?id=aa0cd21b-0ff2-4329-88a1-69c6c268b304

/snip/When asked by a reporter on primary day why it would take two Clintons to beat Obama, the former president, in good humor, laughed and said that he would not take the bait:



Jesse Jackson won in South Carolina twice in '84 and '88 and he ran a good campaign. And Senator Obama's run a good campaign. He's run a good campaign everywhere. He's a good candidate with a good organization.
According to Obama and his supporters, here was yet another example of subtle race-baiting. Clinton had made no mention of race. But by likening Jackson's victories and Obama's impending victory and by praising Obama as a good candidate not simply in South Carolina but everywhere, Clinton was trying to turn Obama into the "black" candidate and racialize the campaign. Or so the pro-Obama camp charged.

Clinton's sly trick, supposedly, was to mention Jackson and no other Democrat who had previously prevailed in South Carolina--thereby demeaning Obama's almost certain victory as a "black" thing. But the fact remains that Clinton, who watches internal polls closely and is an astute observer, knew whereof he spoke: when the returns were counted, Obama's and Jackson's percentages of the overall vote and the key to their victories--a heavy majority among blacks--truly were comparable. The only other Democrats Clinton could have mentioned would have been himself (who won more than two-thirds of the vote in 1992, far more than either Jackson or Obama) and John Edwards (who won only 45 percent in 2004, far less than either Jackson or Obama). Given the differences, given that by mentioning himself, Clinton could have easily been criticized for being self-congratulatory, and given that Edwards had not yet dropped out of the 2008 race, the omissions were not at all surprising. By mentioning Jackson alone, the former president was being accurate--and, perhaps, both modest and polite. But Obama's supporters willfully hammered him as a cagey race-baiter.

Not everyone agreed with the race-baiting charge--including Jesse Jackson himself. /snip/

you may read more by clicking on the link.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:01 PM
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9. Obama deciding to throw early and pre boomers under the bus
in order to start a generational war is the most divisive campaign strategy I have ever witnessed. Then he did the same to the GLBT community in order to win a certain demographic in South Carolina.

I think a lot of folks don't realize that the split has already happened.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:27 PM
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2. I'd say that the Obama team's threatening of black lawmakers is far more divisive
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:52 PM
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7. !!!!
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:28 PM
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3. Yes, and superdelegates have the right to rally to Obama to spare the party
from turning into a Rush Limbaugh fantasy of self-destruction.

And that's exactly what the superdelegates will do- rally to Obama.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:29 PM
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4. And DEMS have every right to question her judgement and dedication to the Party
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:32 PM
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6. And McCrazy can sit back for 5 months while the Dems tear each other apart.
Im sure the repubs are very excited about our sure to be prolonged nomination process. Its best case scenario for them. Sucks for us though.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:56 PM
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8. Translation: Hillary has every right to destroy the party and throw this country to the wolves...
We really need to end this primary season as soon as possible.

If we have more months of negative campaigning, character attacks and Rovian tactics from Clinton, she could literally destroy the party.

It's clear she doesn't care about a Democratic Presidency in November. She'll tear Obama down so McCain will win and give her the chance to run in 2012. That's all she cares about - her own power. She'll tear down this party and let this country continue to bleed, just so she can get that seat in the Oval Office.

We need to push her out of the race as soon as possible. We've got to unite this party and turn our sites on McCain, and as long as Hillary and her supporters are continuing their destructive campaign, we can't do that.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:04 PM
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10. And then SNL could do a skit on 'Weekend Update' about her
Although I wonder if Hillary would have the same self-depreciating humor that Huckabee did, and show up in person?
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:18 PM
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12. well
if they have another primary losers from NY episode, than she might.
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