Not a snark-Breaking News: Hillary Clinton endorses John Mccain!!

[Tropics_Dude83]

If she loses.

If she believes the below, how can she justify a vote for Obama in November? She has to vote for Mccain.

Hillary Clinton told re1porters that both she and the presumtive Republican nominee John McCain offer the experience to be ready to tackle any crisis facing the country under their watch, but Barack Obama simply offers more rhetoric. "I think you'll be able to imagine many things Senator McCain will be able to say," she said. "He’s never been the president, but he will put forth his lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002."

The entitlement reeks. She thinks that this is owed to her. This is the real hijacking. The Goldwater girl is hijacking the Democratic party to continue to run a republican lite administration.

[MH1]

1. That sounds about right.

:banghead:

[Yael]

33. Looks like you are seeinig what I am seeing

If she can't win it, she will make sure that she is teed up for 2012.

[anonymous171]

2. The sad part is I had to open this thread to make sure it was false.

[blonndee]

13. Except it's NOT false. This woman is truly sick and vile.

March 1, 2008, 5:34 PM
Clinton Says She and McCain Offer Experience, Obama Offers Speeches

From CBS News' Fernando Suarez:

FORT WORTH, TEXAS -- Hillary Clinton told reporters that both she and the presumtive Republican nominee John McCain offer the experience to be ready to tackle any crisis facing the country under their watch, but Barack Obama simply offers more rhetoric. “I think you'll be able to imagine many things Senator McCain will be able to say,” she said. “He’s never been the president, but he will put forth his lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002.” Clinton was referring to Obama’s anti-war speech he delivered in Chicago before entering the United States Senate.

Criticism has been leveled towards Clinton as well, though, especially her claim that she is ready to be the commander-in-chief on "day one." When asked at the press conference if she could name a particular instance in her past that equips her to deal with a national security crisis, Clinton balked, saying, “Well, I was involved in a lot of the decisions that were made. Again, you are looking at it from the wrong perspective,” Clinton said. “You know, no one who hasn’t been president has done that, so that’s not the right question. The question is, what have you done over the course of that lifetime to equip you for that moment?”

Texas voters will go the polls on Tuesday to give her the answer.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/03/01/politics/fromtheroad/entry3896372.shtml

[Yael]

34. This isn't false -- she has been saying "experience, experience, 2002 speech" for weeks

[doublethink]

47. Not false ..... she said it ..... here's the video .....

in this thread .... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x100452

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

54. Time to wake up folks. Hillary has hijacked our party! ...

Obama has so much more class - so refreshing.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

59. Exactly. A Clinton Presidency = a GOP Congress

thats why so many want her to get out now, there's no coattails to ride
with a Clinton nomination.

And the GOP turnout will be crazy wild if she is the nom.

We're talking President McCain possibly and a loss of congress.

[Hawkeye-X]

3. More reason NOT to vote for Clinton.

What a schlemiel.

Hawkeye-X

[Tropics_Dude83]

7. This is as close to an Mccain endorsement as you can get from HRC

Disgusting.

If she can't win, no one can.

FYI, CNN just played this clip.

Awesome ad for John Mccain Mrs. Clinton.

[Divernan]

90. She just provided McCain with a great video clip.

[ingac70]

4. Sounds like something that vile asshole would do. n/t

[JackORoses]

5. Breaking News: Hillary is starting to accept that she will not be the Nominee

Thus her endorsement of McCain

What a wretched spoiled sport she is!

[snappyturtle]

28. You got it: Sour Grapes! n/t

[Maddy McCall]

Bullshit.

[berni_mccoy]

8. DENIAL. Try again.

[Tropics_Dude83]

14. Maddy

She said this directly and Wolf Blitzer just played it directly on CNN. So what exactly is BS?

[ingac70]

16. The video clip will be up soon...

and you'll probably defend her even after you see it.

[cali]

18. No. It is not bullshit. If Obama is the nominee this WILL be a McCain add

It's inexcusable. And she know's better.

[thereismore]

21. Bullshit what? nt

[doublethink]

24. Oh I'm sure it will be on you tube soon enough .....

tune back in later tonight and check it out, it'll get posted on DU. She said it, that's the bullshit. She said it, I saw it.

[Yael]

35. Maddy, she is hell bent on destroying this party

if she isn't the nominee. This isn't the first time she has said "experience, experience, 2002 speech". I have seen it in print a few times -- this is just the first time the video was posted.

Please see this.

We don't hate her -- we just want our party to survive and win this fall and she is taking a daily sledgehammer to it. :(

[ingac70]

48. The VIDEO is up...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=385&topic_id=100452

[Orsino]

63. Despicable.

I know candidates are often given bad advice, but this may be the worst turkey her handlers have ever tried to sell us. I hope she's regretting it.

Is there some other loser to whom she can hitch her wagon?

[NorthernSpy]

64. aw, just watch the damn video already...

What language is she speaking?

Unless you can argue that that's not really English, but rather some other language that sounds just like English but always means something completely different, then I don't think you've got much room to spin this.

[Iconoclast Texan]

75. Shrillary errr Smeagol will do anything to get her "precious"

even if it results in sabotaging a great candidate in Obama

[IsItJustMe]

115. Maybe if you say it enough times you will believe it. I wish it was bull shit. I really do.

I hate this.

[berni_mccoy]

6. Why am I not surprised. How will the Hilbots Spin this turd?

[Yael]

37. On top of a pointy stick?

[DJ13]

9. And I thought this was just a cartoon

[Nitrogenica]

10. OOF!

[meow mix]

11. yup she'll work to ruin our chances in the GE

shes now a liability

[IsItJustMe]

116. At this point, I think she would self destruct if she won the nomination, thus giving it to McCain.

I can't get a handle on her mind righ now. All I can say is this is JACKED UP.

[Lucinda]

12. She's running for President, have you heard?

And sometimes they even point out why they are a better matchup than another candidate would be to go against the opposition. Weird, isn't it?

[pdxmom]

23. It's one thing to point out why you're a better matchup than your primary

opponent, but it's a whole different matter to argue that your primary opponent doesn't even match up to the Repuke candidate.

It's out of line and she's obviously decided to torpedo the Democratic Party if she can't have the nomination.

[Orsino]

As the Hillary Party candidate. n/t

[Skidmore]

15. I saw the thread title and thought "What took her so long?"

[Tropics_Dude83]

17. She is a vile reprehensible piece of slime n/t

[StClone]

19. If she wins V.P. Lieberman?

Just wondering.

[ingac70]

31. Nah, Zell Miller. n/t

[BigDDem]

118. Obama/Liberman!

"I am absolutely certain Connecticut is going to have the good sense to send Joe Lieberman back to the U.S. Senate so he can continue to serve on our behalf" - Barack Obama

[XemaSab]

20. This will probably hurt McCain more than Obama

I could see republicans staying home in DROVES with her endorsement.

[ingac70]

22. ....

New poll results...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4857328&mesg_id=4857328

[The Doctor.]

44. LOL... ah, the silver lining! Well done. eom.

[moondust]

25. SHE IS CALLING HIM A FRAUD.

And by implication all those voters and states that voted for him, many by a wide margin, a bunch of fools. She'd want the general election votes and then to be President of millions and millions of fools?

Go fuck yourself, Hillarudy.

[iilana X]

26. I just heard her on CNN praising McCain's experience. I almost fell off my chair.

Did I just fall into a parallel universe or did a Democrat, wife of the former Democratic President of the United States, just say the presumptive Republican nominee is better qualified to be President than her Democratic opponent?

This a new low in politics. I've been disgusted by her behavior the past two weeks, but this is beyond the pale.

I wonder if the DNC has heard about this?

At this point, I'm half-expecting Clinton to pull a Lieberman and run on her own if she doesn't get the nomination?

Edit to add: I hope the Obama campaign is on this. Maybe they can file some kind of formal complaint with the DNC... I'm not really informed about party processes or rules.

[Yael]

39. Hillary's vodka party with McCain and love fest on how they would BOTH be GREAT!! Presidents

Enjoy!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x100435

[quantass]

27. She continues to be an embarassment to the party -- Cant wait for 24 hours

[fishwax]

29. Pointing out that McCain has more experience than Obama is hardly an endorsement

Senator Clinton will support the democratic nominee.

[jazzjunkysue]

38. Read it, again. Go to the link. It sure is an endorsement.

She's that vile. She's that GOP.

She's that selfish.

I. Never. Trusted. Her.

:puke:

[fishwax]

52. Go to what link?

There's no link in the OP :shrug:

At any rate, I don't see what's in the OP as an endorsement at all. Yes, it's a critique of Obama and asserts that it will be a liability against McCain b/c McCain has more experience, but it doesn't follow that she endorses McCain.

[jazzjunkysue]

55. This one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4865412&mesg_id=4865478

[fishwax]

62. what does that link show?

I never suggested she didn't say it. I didn't even suggest it wasn't a stupid and vile thing to say. I just said it isn't the same as endorsing McCain.

[Yael]

40. Really? How do you explain this:

July 29, 2006
2008 May Test Clinton’s Bond With McCain
By ANNE E. KORNBLUT

WASHINGTON, July 28 — Two summers ago, on a Congressional trip to Estonia, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton astonished her traveling companions by suggesting that the group do what one does in the Baltics: hold a vodka-drinking contest.

Delighted, the leader of the delegation, Senator John McCain, quickly agreed. The after-dinner drinks went so well — memories are a bit hazy on who drank how much — that Mr. McCain, an Arizona Republican, later told people how unexpectedly engaging he found Mrs. Clinton to be. “One of the guys” was the way he described Mrs. Clinton, a New York Democrat, to some Republican colleagues.

Mrs. Clinton and Mr. McCain went on to develop an amiable if professionally calculated relationship. They took more official trips together, including to Iraq. They worked together on the Senate Armed Services Committee and on the issue of global warming. They made a joint appearance last year on “Meet the Press,” interacting so congenially that the moderator, Tim Russert, joked about their forming a “fusion ticket.”
~~snip~~
It was during their joint trip to Iraq in late February 2005 that Mr. McCain and Mrs. Clinton appeared via satellite on “Meet the Press,” an appearance that put their civility on display. When Mr. Russert asked Mr. McCain at the end of the interview whether he thought Mrs. Clinton would make a good president, Mrs. Clinton came to his rescue, saying: “Oh, we can’t hear you, Tim!”

“Yeah, you’re breaking up,” Mr. McCain added, laughing. But then he said: “I happen to be a Republican and would support, obviously, a Republican nominee, but I have no doubt that Senator Clinton would make a good president.”

Asked the same question about him, Mrs. Clinton replied without skipping a beat: “Absolutely.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x100435

Lying SOS wouldn't even give Edwards or Obama the same courtesy when asked that same exact question in a debate in January (NH). She dodged it and answered why SHE would make a good president instead.

Vile.

[fishwax]

57. what's to explain?

Three years ago Clinton said McCain would make a good president. It still doesn't follow that the comment in the OP is tantamount to an endorsement of McCain :shrug:

[Yael]

74. Yet she couldn't bring herself to pay the same homage

to the fellow candidates on stage during a debate.

Consistent praise for a McCain presidency, but not a word of support for the democrats running?

And you approve of this. You think this is healthy for our GE chances?

[fishwax]

84. gee, where did I say that?

And you approve of this. You think this is healthy for our GE chances?

As I said elsewhere, it's not the first, last, or worst attack she's sent Obama's way. I think it was a stupid comment to make, I don't think it will help her campaign, and I don't think it reflects well on the direction of her campaign, particularly in the last few weeks.

That doesn't make her comment an endorsement of McCain, though. As for our GE chances, experience will certainly be an issue in the general election. You can bet that McCain will mention it at least as often (and likely/hopefully as unsuccessfully) as Clinton has.

[Yael]

85. I am going to guess that you didn't watch the video

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x100452

[fishwax]

94. no, the video is new to me, and says pretty much

what the OP and the news story said. Like I said earlier, it doesn't reflect well on her or her campaign. I can't imagine why she thinks such things will be helpful, but it's not really out of character with how her campaign has gone in the last couple of weeks and months. With luck, tomorrow will put an end to it.

[frylock]

61. and voting yea on kyle-lieberman is hardly an endorsement for war against iran..

try reading between the lines.

[fishwax]

70. there's reading between the lines, and then there's making stuff up

it's hardly the first, worst, or last attack that she's made in the campaign, but it still doesn't equate to endorsing McCain. Experience has been her main theme throughout the campaign. Personally, I think this quote just undermines her position: if experience trumps everything else, what happens if the GOP nominee is more experienced than even she is. But that aside, pointing out that experience will be an issue if McCain and Obama go head to head is not the same as endorsing McCain. You can bet that McCain will mention experience as often (and likely/hopefully as unsuccessfully) as Clinton has.

[Orsino]

66. It's an unendoresement, intended to paint Obama as unqualified...

...and is a particularly digusting kissy-face to McCain.

She doesn't get to use the word "experience" any more. No more.

[fishwax]

72. of course it's intended to paint Obama as unqualified

she's been doing that all campaign (for all the good it has done her).

[Orsino]

77. The Vote McCain twist is new. n/t

[fishwax]

86. Where is the "Vote McCain" twist?

:shrug:

[Orsino]

89. In the video.

No need for disingenuity. She makes an obvious comparison between Obama and McCain, and Obama doesn't measure up at all. By her reckoning, if she is not the nominee, only McCain will be qualified.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4JnWQsxKw

[fishwax]

97. I don't see that as a new Vote McCain twist

I hadn't seen the video before Yael posted it, but it isn't that different from what is quoted in the OP. The truth is, she's been saying basically the same thing since it became clear that McCain was going to be the republican nominee--that McCain had experience and she had experience and Obama didn't. I don't think this comment will help her, but it's not out of character with how her campaign has gone in the last several weeks (and in particular the last two). Her rhetoric has gotten sharper as the writing in the wall has gotten clearer, but I see it as a difference of degree, and not of kind.

[Orsino]

108. Then will McCain's "experience," which Obama lacks, lead her to support McCain...

...if she isn't the nominee? Or is "experience" nothing more than a talking point?

Which of the two do you think she favors?

[fishwax]

109. no, I don't think so

Like I said, I think she'll support the democratic nominee.

[Orsino]

123. And she just confirmed this on the Daily Show...

...in an interview with Stewart.

[berni_mccoy]

67. Errrr.... Denial... doesn't not compute... need logic processor... time to cry

[fishwax]

78. who's crying?

I can't tell if you're taking a shot at me or not, but whatever ;) I'm not crying. Clinton isn't my candidate.

[tabasco]

30. I didn't think the Muslim comment was too bad but this is revolting.

She would have us live through more REPUBLICAN HELL than see her opponent win the general election.

She just entered the Lieberman Zone. :puke:

[Yael]

43. You don't care that she throws Obama under a bus

by eluding to the fact that he could be lying about being a secret muslim, but the question of his experience trips your trigger?

[tabasco]

46. Yeah. I think that's what my post said. n/t

[denem]

32. "I'm just warming up" : Hillary.

Indeed. The real fun begins: Video bytes for the Republicans.

[jazzjunkysue]

36. Honestly-I wonder if the McCain people want this endorsement!!!

It's almost like, does Obama want Kerry's endorsement???

[meow mix]

41. who can doubt our worse fears about her, were true. she just threw the democrats under a bus

for mccain

[denem]

42. The RW lunatics were correct all these years

Say and do anything. I always discounted the sabotage of Kerry theory. I can't now.

[angie_love]

45. Basically Hillary just endorsed McCain, WOW, this lady is bordering on evil

I swear, if Obama loses in November, I'll partially blame her. If she runs again, I'll NEVER vote for her. EVER. I can't believe she said that. This is the last straw for me. Disgusting.

[ingac70]

49. .....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=385&topic_id=100452

[BeyondGeography]

50. So happy together

[Bigleaf]

51. Add me to the ever-growing list. She will NEVER get my vote at

any time in the future. I wouldn't vote her fucking dog-catcher! What a team player. It's time for the party leaders to reign the fucking big-mouth in. She is sabotaging Obama so she'll get a shot in 4 years. I can't believe she'd put herself above the party. Don't count on it Hillary, don't count on it. Payback will indeed be a BITCH!

[knowledgeispwr]

53. Clinton is trying to make it harder for me to vote her come November

if she is the dem nominee. I'll do it anyway, but I'll be disgusted.

[Divernan]

93. Seems she's starting a Democrats for McCain movement.

[jackstraw45]

56. Hillary following the path of Joe Lieberman, her pal....

[LostInAnomie]

58. Hillary is scum

Hopefully, the state of New York will boot her ass in 2012.

[frogcycle]

60. oh christ on a cracker!

can you people possibly just learn the english language, perhaps read entire sentences?

I am no fan of HRC, but it is obvious that her point was that the republican candidate would point to his record and readiness and contrast it with Obama. She wasn't praising the bastard, just saying that he had that card to play, and she could go toe-to-toe with him. You can disagree that she has the experience she claims, but don't try to say she was saying mccain was better than obama

If you want to fight, pick reasonable fucking fights. This is ludicrous!

[Skip Intro]

65. Excellent line from Hillary! Just excellent.

"He’s never been the president, but he will put forth his lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002."


And please, if you believe Obama's rhetoric, then it's clear he wants to meld the parties into one.


This is called politics. And she just socred a hit, evidently. And her point is right on. Obama is no match for mccain. At some point, reality will come in.

I didn't hear any Obama supporters crying foul when he compared Hillary to gouiliani, and romney, and bush/cheney.

[ingac70]

68. She's cut of the same filthy cloth as all of them. n/t

[Skip Intro]

71. She made a point, and I think it might have stuck, this time.

I don't see anything filthy about her comments. What is filthy there?

[ingac70]

73. Endorsing McCain. n/t

[Skip Intro]

88. She did not endorse mccain. Show me where that happened.

[ContinentalOp]

79. Wha?

"I didn't hear any Obama supporters crying foul when he compared Hillary to gouiliani, and romney, and bush/cheney."

She's not comparing Obama to a republican. She's comparing herself to a republican!

[Skip Intro]

87. She's pointing out we need to go into the upcoming fight with a lion, not a teddy bear.

C'mon, her point is Obama is not experienced enough to take on the repuke nom, clearly now McCain. It's an argument she's been making all along. The amount of fake outrage from the Obama supporters here, many, never ceases to amaze. Less and less effective every time.

[Arkansas Granny]

69. You are really stretching if you call that an endorsement.

She is saying that she can counter McCain's claims of experience with her own experience, but Obama can claim a speech he made.

[meow mix]

76. its pretty clear. shes telling america anyone but obama. includes mccain by name.

thats a traitor.

[Arkansas Granny]

83. We have a different opinion on the meaning of her remark.

[writes3000]

80. That is NOT what she said.

She said she had a lifetime of experience.

She said McCain had a lifetime of experience.

But she said Obama only had a speech he gave in 2002.

Not only is this a bogus and UNTRUE statement, she is clearly claiming that McCain is more qualified AND worthy of respectful consideration when Obama is not.

[Arkansas Granny]

82. It appears that we interpret her remarks differently.

[Orsino]

95. Yes. She might have gotten away with either talking point in isolation.

Put 'em together, though, at a time when she may be losing the nomination, and it's fair to conclude that she will vote for McCain--or that she's hoping for a spoiler as McCain's VP.

I assume that she hasn't actually lost her mind. She needs to issue a "clarification" pronto.

[LostinVA]

96. Exactly

Again, I wish she had phrased it a different way, but that is EXACTLY the point she was making.

Jeebus.

[GoldieAZ49]

81. Wow she said that? Today? WOW

If she doesn't get the nominee, there goes her hard core supporters. McCain has the most bipartisan support than any repub, maybe they can live with that.

Still blows my mind...I said earlier: if she can't have it no one can...but I never thought she would endorse McCain

[berni_mccoy]

91. RACHEL MADDOW ON KO: "That's what you say when you want to be McCain's V.P., not President..."

"of the U.S."

That's what she said in response to this TREACHERY.

[thewiseguy]

92. I will not vote for her in November if she is the Democratic nominee

I know that I said earlier today that we should come around and unite around one candidate. But this is just unacceptable to me.

Where is Howard Dean? Where are the party elders?

[sellitman]

105. Then you are either a freeper or a fool.

I think a freeper.

[thewiseguy]

110. You think so?

Well I do not give a f about what you think.

[IsItJustMe]

117. She has crossed over the line. No doubt about it. I am very heavily leaning to what you said right

now.

[meow mix]

98. K&R

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[ariesgem]

100. The Obama camp should put together commercial with a collection of clips of her sneering, ranting,

raving lunatic attacks with arms flailing and simple show the words -

Hope & Change


That Hillary is becoming Nancy Grace before my eye. :crazy:

[yellerpup]

101. Here is exactly what she said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4JnWQsxKw


Disgusting.

[LindainCinci]

102. Did you bother to check than to believe a bloggers lie?

Now, all you folks were so quick to believe a blogger posting quotations from a CBS blog...did any of you bother to even look that it was a question on who would be able to match up against McCain's foreign policy experience? Nooooooo

March 1 Dallas,

"“I think you'll be able to imagine many things Senator McCain will be able to say,” she said. “He’s never been the president, but he will put forth his lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience.Senator Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002.”


Gee, much different than a blogger claiming Hillary was endorsing **MC CAIN**, huh?

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/03/01/politics/fromtheroad/entry3896372.shtml

[David__77]

103. She made it CLEAR that she would support McCain over Obama.

This will not sit well with many superdelegates, including some who have endorsed her, like a number of California progressives. Things will change tomorrow.

[Hepburn]

104. Kick. n/t

[Imagevision]

106. If Hillary wins? I'll vote for Ralph Nader in a heartbeat! screw em!

[Diane R]

107. Surely there should be some price to pay for this, it's despicable.

[IsItJustMe]

113. Yes there is a price, it's called respect.

[dysfunctional press]

111. she probably feels that she'll be too old to run in 2016- so 2012 is her last chance...

and she doesn't want to have to face a democratic incumbent.

[IsItJustMe]

112. Some folks are not very classy when they are desperate. This is a hail mary pass if I ever saw one

and as a Democrat, I hate to say it, but this does not bode well for HRC. I see her in a completely different light than I did three weeks ago and I now honestly see why she has such high negative ratings. Never say it before, DAMN THE LIGHT!!!

[LeftCoast]

114. There was no endorsement. Stop reinventing reality.

Good grief!

[BootinUp]

119. So its just an outright lie then... hmmm ok thanks for the heads up. nt

[Apollo11]

120. Falsified quote. No endorsement. 20 yard penalty. First down.

:P

[stillrockin]

122. She will NEVER have my vote after this.

Up until now, I was planning to hold my nose and vote. No more.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

124. BAHHHHHHH ROARRRRRRR SNARFFFFF GARBLE GARBLE ROARRRRRR!!!!!!