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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:29 PM
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Thank you, Rachel Maddow: "That's what you say when you want to be McCain's VP"
"That's NOT what you say when you want to become the Democratic nominee for President."

Thank you for calling out Hillary Clinton.

As KO said in response, "unbelievable".
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:30 PM
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1. I was just going to post this -- the look on Rachel's face said it all
DISGUSTED.

If there weren't election coverage on tomorrow night, it almost looks like KO's ready to make a "Special Comment" about Mrs. Clinton's deplorable remarks.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:57 PM
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16. I have expected
Hillary to make "Worst Persons in the World."

She certainly deserved to make "Worst Dem".
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midora Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:23 PM
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38. McCain/Clinton '08!
Talk about a dream ticket! The fightin'man and the hatchet woman! Just stay out of their damn way!
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:38 AM
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43. She could pick right up
where Dick left off.
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midora Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:23 PM
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39. McCain/Clinton '08!
Talk about a dream ticket! The fightin'man and the hatchet woman! Just stay out of their damn way!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:31 PM
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2. She nailed it!!
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:32 PM
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4. Wouldn't a comment like Clinton made get you the boot from DU?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:34 PM
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7. I think anyone saying such a thing should be presumed a Republican.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:32 PM
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3. Just saw that
K&R
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:32 PM
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5. its great but we got 2 threads on this
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:33 PM
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6. Yes.
And I'm rather disturbed about it. She is correct.
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iilana X Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:40 PM
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8. Hillary Clinton has some splaining to do....
to the DNC.

And let's hope this has not escaped the notice of those Super Delegates. I believe they were brought into existence for just such a circumstance as this: to curtail the nomination of someone who is a disgrace to the party.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:10 PM
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21. Hillary and the Clintonistas can't stand Dean or the DNC
they make their own rules, unfortunately. Win at all costs, and if they can't win, they're going to make damn sure they torepedo Obama's chances of winning now or forever. So Democratic of them don't you think?
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:40 PM
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9. DOCTOR Maddow is a Rhodes Scholar in political science
the first out lesbian to do this. :)
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:42 PM
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10. They both had a moment where they looked at each other, speechless.
All Keith could say was "unbelievable." Rachel just seemed so hurt and so sad.

Her expression really got me.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:50 PM
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11. Yep, it was pure disappointment with some distaste as well.
You couldn't miss it.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:54 PM
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13. The moment any of us Dems realize that Clintons betrayed us, does hurt and IS sad.
And then you get angry - and want it to STOP.

How many more tales are out there?
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

How many more interviews supporting Bush?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

How many Dem voters and candidates sabotaged?
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward

How many smears against Dems validated?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

How much of the historic record of this nation swept under the oval office rug?
http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:07 PM
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19. Hell, I've been there and done that back in 2004.
After 2000, I had a strong suspicion that personal ambition and goals were of more value than the will of the people or the Democratic party. But after 2004, I was convinced.

Even then, I never thought there was anything wrong with personal ambition. After all, you need a healthy dose of it to be a politician. But the politics of personal destruction have really soured me on the Clintons and Hillary Clinton in particular. Even Bill seemed willing to concede that if Hillary did not win both Ohio and Texas, that the campaign should be over. But Hillary herself could lose another 4 straight and she would still soldier on, because if there is the slightest chance she could win, who cares if the Democratic party is torn apart? Who cares if we leave millions of new voters willing to join the Democratic party behind? Who cares about what's right?

That's the difference between Hillary Clinton and Al Gore or John Kerry. You might have disagreed with certain strategic decisions made by Gore or Kerry, but you certainly respected them and knew that they had the interests of the American people and this country at heart.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:20 PM
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25. thanks for the links...
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 09:27 PM by stillcool47
it seems like I can never have too many!:hi: editing to add, that youtube one is ugh...telling.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:29 PM
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29. That right there was a CHARACTER moment.
.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:53 PM
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12. Rachel has turned into a hack
and she is misrepresenting what Hillary said.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:56 PM
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15. What part of Obama has no experience beyond a speech Maddow misrepresent? n/t
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:01 PM
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18. This part
Hillary Clinton told reporters that both she and the presumtive Republican nominee John McCain offer the experience to be ready to tackle any crisis facing the country under their watch, but Barack Obama simply offers more rhetoric. "I think you'll be able to imagine many things Senator McCain will be able to say," she said. "He’s never been the president, but he will put forth his lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002."
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:07 PM
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20. Yeah, read past the bolded part.
"I have experience. McCain has experience. Obama has a six year-old speech"

VP for McCain my ass, this is what you say when you're aiming to win the GOP primary.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:12 PM
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23. uh huh
right.

:eyes:
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:21 PM
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27. It's right there in the selection you provided
Emoticons aren't going to change what was said.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:23 PM
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28. What's your point?
She's right?

:shrug:
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:42 PM
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30. did she mention
that everything in Obama's 2002 speech was right, and everything she and McCain said were wrong?
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:55 PM
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35. I prefer Hillary Clintons IWR speech
in Oct of 2002.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:55 PM
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14. amazing how hillarys supporters will back her on mccain over obama
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 08:56 PM by meow mix
guess i shouldnt be suprised.
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:59 PM
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17. 2004 anbody but Bush
now its anybody but Clinton 2008 in my mind
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:11 PM
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22. Oh please, KO and Rachael are so bias they've been pissing on Hillary for weeks
It's like watching Fox for lefties
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:15 PM
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24. Hillary SWORE that there would be a united Democratic party
How in the world will that be possible now that the REPUBLICANS have a tailor-made ad by HER against Obama?
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:34 PM
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40. KO maybe, Maddow has often taken up the mantle of defending Clinton
If only because no one else would.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:42 AM
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41. KO only started being tough on Hillary when she first played the 'fear' card. That's been a
specific peeve of his against Bush the last 6 years, but you want to blame him for being consistent and showing integrity for his views.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:11 PM
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44. Intregrity my ass!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:15 PM
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45. KO has no integrity because he stands against the fear card when a GOP or a Dem plays it?
I think you need a crash course in journalistic ethics.

KO did EXACTLY what any honest talker does - he slams EITHER side for wrongs against the CITIZENS.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:24 PM
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46. Spare me your journalistic ethics and honest talker nonsense. He has been neither for weeks now
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 12:25 PM by demo dutch
it's the furthest from a balanced report by any stretch of the imagination!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:26 PM
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47. Hill shouldn't have tried playing that fear card. You like your Dems Rovelike - many of us don't.
Spare us YOUR desire for another decade of protection for BushInc from the Clintons.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:40 PM
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48. Rove like Obama supporters more likely right here on DU. If the behavior of
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 12:40 PM by demo dutch
you lot in term of divisiveness is any indication of what to come with a Obama presidency, than it will be another long 4 yrs. Hardly anything to look forward to. Quite frankly if this the caliber of sorry candidates the Dem party can come up with then we deserve to loose in 2008!
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:20 PM
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26. How can any Hillary supporter, be happy with what Hillary said today?
And actually defend it? wow
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:43 PM
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31. deliberate ignorance. heh, they probably
would hail the flat earth, should she ask it.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:09 AM
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42. shamefully deliberate
and they say were the cult..
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:44 PM
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32. I will . and Rachel is wrong. as is KO. so stuff it.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:46 PM
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33. I've been watching politics and voting Democratic for 30 plus years.
Hillary's snuggling up with the republicans turned me off a long time ago. Her McCain statement is positively disgusting.
Probably the lowest, scummiest comment I have ever seen in a Democratic primary.
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easy_b94 Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:48 PM
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34. Thanks for your comment RM.....it had to be said.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:12 PM
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36. k&r
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:21 PM
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37. Hillary needs to recognize that Obama WILL be the nominee
LEAD;
FOLLOW; or
GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY
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