Obama supporters please note ... this is hurting your candidate

[sanjiadem]

How does Hillary speculating about GOP tactics = her "endorsing" Mc Cain?

The oversensitivity and spin on BOTH sides is unfreakin' believable, but people are starting to get especially tired of some of Obama supporter's tactics. And, it is aiding in the argument by some that he is getting preferential treatment by the press and/or unfair 'spin'.

What Hillary said was, "I think you'll be able to imagine many things Senator McCain will be able to say," she said. "He’s never been the president, but he will put forth his lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002."

Now, if I were an Obama supporter, instead of stretching what she said into something she didn't really say I would have simply said "WHAT lifetime of experience? She's not been a Senator that long and in that time she's shown her judgment to be some what suspect. And, if she's counting her year's as First Lady as experience, she wasn't exactly Eleanore Roosevelt in that role, either!"

[msongs]

1. if she said obama has a "lifetime of experience" the obamanists would cry with joy nt

[apocalypsehow]

2. Yakety-Yak - more "concern." It is duly noted, and *yawn*....

n/t.

[LisaM]

3. She's also said repeatedly that she would support an Obama candidacy

to think that she is supporting McCain over Obama is to willfully misunderstand. I might add, Michelle Obama said she would have to "think" about working on Hillary's campaign if she won, but Hillary has said that she would stump for Obama. And by the way, she already did help on his Senate campaign.

Rachel Maddow must have been joking. She's smart enough (and funny and wry enough) not to twist someone's words around.

[Windy]

4. Tell that to Keith and Rachel Maddow. They found her statement beneath contempt.

And it was. Worry more about your candidate destroying the party and costing us the election in November than about what DU'ers who happen to support Obama think.

[sanjiadem]

19. I don't have a candidate ... my 1st choice never got in and my 2nd bowed out

But, if you guys keep this up, maybe the grown ups will step back in at the convention ... you've made my day!

[Bread and Circus]

5. Hillary said something that we won't be able to say about McCain on this board

come November. That should tell you something.

[sandnsea]

6. Every single day it's shit from Hillary

I guess her supporters like shit sandwiches as much as the Bush-bots. It's stunning. I never would have thought Democrats would have exhibited such blind loyalty.

[ProSense]

7. BS! It's part of the parallel Hillary and McCain campaigns.

Hillary on McCain

See the OP at that link for more.

[peacebird]

8. your quotes do not match what HRC said in the video "Disloyal Democrat"

She said she had experience, McCain had a experience, Obama had a speech. The order of the statements goes to the reason people are peeved. She puts herself first (expected and okay) THEN interjects the preumptive Republican nominee as also having a lifetime of experience - and then dismisses her Democratic rival (who is leading, and has won the last 11 straight contests) as having "given a speech in 2002"

That is providing aid and comfort to the enemy.

[sanjiadem]

22. What I said is exactly what people are perceiving this whole brew ha ha to be

And, for many perception IS reality. But, the serious journalist are taking note and whether you want to believe it or not, they actually have more pull than the pundits and 24/7 types.

See http://www.journalism.org/node/10004

As I've stated before, I'm not invested in either one. Neither makes me want to run out and work my tail off for them as I've done for many others (federal, state, and local) over the last 30+ years.

But, I do care about objectivity, fairness, context, and truth.

And, in this regard, I feel both campaigns have not done as well as they should. But, Obama supporters, in my opinion, have been the quickest to hit the 'spin' button.

[Cha]

9. NO, hilary is hurting her

fucking self.

[LSparkle]

10. She was likening herself to McCain -- they both have a "lifetime of experience"

It's downright disrespectful to imply that just because Obama's LIFETIME OF EXPERIENCE didn't occur inside the Beltway, it's not worth anything.

In case she hasn't gotten the message, this election is largely about CHANGE -- yet she ridicules someone who has dared to say that things in D.C. aren't working. Maybe you need fresh eyes to recognize that fact ...

[sanjiadem]

21. And, Obama once called McCain his "pen-pal" after getting all chummy

after a disagreement in 2006 ... http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-02-09-mccain-obama_x.htm?csp=34

Now, were I a Hillary supporter, I'd try to spin this into something it wasn't. Same thing - and, I don't care what the M$M says ... they're looking to keep the rancor going, if not grow it - in their eyes, it's good for ratings.

[ruggerson]

11. Thanks for the real quote

the editing jobs some do around here are amazing.

[flyarm]

12. they have already damaged their candidate in my eyes!..from an Edwards supporter..

they are hypocrites..they tell hillary supporters all this past week that they would be traitors to the dem party if the hillary supporters don't vote for Obama in Nov..now tonight i see all these posts saying they will not vote for Hillary in Nov..what freaking hypocrites..

they have been doing the "you are for us or against us" bullshit for over a week..what freaking world do these people live in?? do they think those of us reading their crap are buying their bullshit..we are not.

we get the lecture threads..that voting against the dem candidate will give us supreme court justices that will screw us all..but when their back is to the wall..they show their whinny assed selves, for all to see..and we see it..what a bunch of two faced whiners.

so where are all the lecture threads now that the Obama folk are coming unglued??????????

oh yeah..i won't hold my breath..

fly..

[sanjiadem]

17. I was an Edwards supporter, too.

It's probably why I don't see things the same way some folks around here do. I'm not invested in either one of them. I would much prefer either Edwards or Gore be the nominee.

But, I've been around these campaigns long enough to know the 'hate' each side has allowed to develop, especially this primary season, is not going to go away very easily and many on the 'losing side' may just stay home in November - some have already said they would. And, then, we all lose.

But, it seems they're so caught up already, they're either unwilling or unable to see 'the forest for the trees'.

[oasis]

13. Hillary's not telling them "What she thinks they want to hear" She's

giving them the ugly facts as shes sees them. It's a page right out of Obama's straight talk handbook.

[BlueManDude]

14. Her campaign is relentlessly negative. She won't get my vote in November.

She's willing to drag the country down with her.

[flyarm]

15. ok are you one of the hypocrites that said Hillary people "had to vote for obama" in nov..

i fucking bet you are...your stripes are showing!

fly..and Edwards supporter.

[BlueManDude]

16. I'm not responsible for what other people on DU say. I've never said that.

IMO just about everybody who supported HRC would naturally gravitate to BO in fall but becaise of the GOP-like tone of her campaign it's quite understandable how the opposite isn't necessarily true.

[Hoof Hearted]

18. Kick.

[stillcool]

20. it sounds so familiar though...

doesn't it? Larry King clip from 2004.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

[ElsewheresDaughter]

23. Senator Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002.....BadaBing