Thats it I had with HRC

[easy_b94]

I will not vote for Billary (thats right I said Billary)IF she wins. If the DEM SD GIVE her this primary I will become an Independent and sit out the GE. Also, many AA and young folks are going to stay home. My two breaking points today was the throwing BO under the bus while defending McCain and the Canada story.

This is how I really feel!!!!!!!!

Note**** I would like to see a women president........ but NOT Hillary(Billary

[TK421]

1. Are you voting for Nader?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

35. what about Cynthia McKinney for the Greens?

[TK421]

36. Don't know much about McKinney...I would have to research her voting record

but anything you would have to tell me I would appreciate

[CaliforniaDemocrat]

2. They never came out to vote anyway, so who cares?

[WilliamPitt]

3. Not voting is just your opinion?

Wrong. It's an abdication of your duty as a citizen.

Hope it feels good. I think it fucking sucks.

But that's just my opinion.

[LizW]

4. Thanks for sharing, Yoda. n/t

[maddiejoan]

22. In the interests of being fair to Yoda --

it would actually have read.

"Vote for Billary, I will not (Billary, I have said )IF win she does. If the DEM SD GIVE her this primary, become an Independent and sit out the GE I will. Also, many AA and young folks stay home they will. My two breaking points today was the throwing BO under the bus, while defending McCain and the Canada story she did..

My Opinion this is.




If it had been Jar-Jar Binks it would read.

Exsqueeeeeze me? Meeeza be tinkin' dat me nozza be votin' for Billary suh!. If demsua beeza give her dissa primary, then Jar Jar beeza an independantsuh and be sittin' outsuh da GE.

[saracat]

5. And like most opinions it isn't worth much.I feel the opposite of you but neither of us matter in

great scheme of things.Hope it made you feel better to post because it accomplshes nothing!

[saltpoint]

6. Senator Clinton may be our nominee. John McCain is likely the Pukes'

nominee.

I urge you to support the Democratic ticket.

[easy_b94]

8. I want to but Hill is making it hard for me

[saltpoint]

15. Look, I'm a John Edwards supporter. I'm not expecting for American

politics to come in tailor-made on my doorstep.

The target is the Republicans generally and McCain especially, since he will pander to the Far Right at the soonest opportunity and pack the Supreme Court with philistine yahoos for the next 4 decades.

Not a good option for this Democrat.

[gateley]

16. REPEAT:

SCOTUS, SCOTUS, SCOTUS.

[saltpoint]

19. As usual, you are not only making good sense, but you're doing

it better than I can.

You.
nailed.
it.

[gateley]

25. It's a fluke!

A fluke, I tell you! It's YOUR posts I always read and go "damn, right ON!".

:pals:

[saltpoint]

27. Then by god, let's by pals!

:toast:

[midora]

28. I've Had it with HRC too

and I was never too crazy about her in the first place. If she gets the nomination, I hope she's ready for the Republican shitstorm. She says she can take it, but can she? Or will she cry for votes, or yell "Shame on You!"

[saltpoint]

30. I think either of our two frontrunners will steamroll John McCain like a

potato chip.

Whichever one gets our nomination gets my support, my vote, and a bit of my allowance as well. Plus bumper sticker space and a yard sign.

[HooptieWagon]

13. If Hill is the nominee, isn't the GOP candidate more experienced?

[saltpoint]

17. No. In fact, I don't buy the "experience" meme at all. It's bullshit,

unless you consider Alexadner inadequate to the task, or Lincoln.

McCain needs to be defeated on the points, on the issues. We'll handle the grassroots energy.

[Hepburn]

41. Soooooooooo.....

...what's the diference between Hillary and McCain? Both are war hawks and neither give a damn about anyone but themself.

Besides, Hillary thinks John McCain has the experience it takes to be POTUS...so she even admits there is no difference at least in one area.'


GAG ME....at this point, I really have to consider if I will go to the polls at all this coming November if Hillary is the nom of our party. I cannot vote for her. I would see doing that an immoral act in voting for someone like her.

[saltpoint]

42. You'll have to gag yourself. Many of the rest of us don't have time because

we plan on voting for the Democratic ticket.

The Supreme Court's future direction is more important than your intrapartisan huffiness.

[Windy]

7. read this!

transcription of Ms. Clinton’s remarks:

I admire your willingness to speak out on behalf of of the women and children of Iraq. There is a very easy way to prevent anyone from being put into harm’s way, and that is for Saddam Hussein to disarm. And I have absolutely no belief that he will. I have to say that this is something I have followed for more than a decade.

If he was serious about disarming, he would have been much more forthcoming coming. There may be progress, we may be destroying the Samoud missiles, but there is no accounting for the chemical and biological stocks. And I just respectfully disagree about what the proximate cause of any action that may be taken is.

Now I also believe that for now nearly 20 years the principal reason why women and children in Iraq have suffered is because of his leadership. His not only tyrannical and dictatorial leadership, but his reign of terror against women and children. And it is a — it is a very unfortunate situation for the Iraqi people that they have been so horribly misgoverned for so long.

Now, I do think that there are continuing discussions ongoing that I hope can make some further progress building on the success of the missile destruction program. But that has been the first real compliance, and it was only brought about when the inspectors discovered the missiles — they were not revealed — that their length was longer than what had been prescribed under the resolutions ending the Gulf War.

And the very difficult question for all of us is how does one bring about the disarmament of someone with such a proven track record of a commitment if not an obsession with weapons of mass destruction. And I ended up voting for the resolution after carefully reviewing the information and intelligence that I had available, talking with people whose opinions I trusted, trying to discount political or other factors that I didn’t believe should be in any way a part this decision.

And it is unfortunate that we are at the point of a potential military action to enforce the resolution. That is not my preference, it would be far preferable if we not only had legitimate cooperation from Saddam Hussein and a willingness on his part to disarm and account for his chemical and biological storehouses, but that if we had a much broader alliance and coalition.

But we are in a very difficult position right now. And so I would love to agree with you, but I can’t based on my own understanding and assessment of the situation.

In response to a question from an audience member:

… With respect to whose responsibility it is to disarm Saddam Hussein. I just do not believe that given the attitudes of many people in the world community today that there would be a willingness to take on very difficult problems were it not for the United States leadership.

And I’m talking specifically about what had to be done in Bosnia and Kosovo, where my husband could not get a Security Council Resolution to save the the Kosavar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. And we did it alone as the United States. And we had to do it alone.

It would have been far preferable if the Russians and others had agreed to do it through the United Nations. They would not.

I’m happy that in the face of such horrible suffering we did act. And so I see it somewhat differently, if you’ll forgive me, from my experience and perspective.

I’m agreeing with you a hundred percent that even though I am willing to take a very difficult step for me to say we have to disarm this man. That position in no way supports the disastrous economic policies that this administration is pursuing. In fact I think that this is the height of irresponsibility.

And it would be far preferable to be more patient and more thoughtful and more willing to try to engender support with respect to Iraq. That is a decision that has to be made in the world community.

Here at home this administration is bankrupting our economy, forcing us to make the worst kinds of false choices between national and homeland security, which they don’t fund. And between security and everything else, which they don’t want to fund.

So you have me a hundred percent on that. And it is absolutely wrong — it is wrong that for the first time in American history we have a President who is talking about leading this country to war and wanting to cut taxes at the same time.

That is the height of cruel, arrogant irresponsibility.

Now compare her comments with those reported by her fans at the New York Times:

Clinton Calls on Bush to ‘Extricate’ U.S. From Iraq

January 28, 2007
By PATRICK HEALY

DAVENPORT, Iowa, Jan. 28 — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton called today for President Bush to “extricate our country” from Iraq by the time he leaves office in 2009, and she also said she knew enough about “evil and bad men” to protect the country from its enemies…

One person in the audience pressed Mrs. Clinton on her vote authorizing military action in Iraq in 2002, saying she allowed “the president to go to war,” and asked for specific steps she would take to end the war. She replied by selectively quoting from her speech in 2002 about her vote, saying it was not cast “for pre-emptive war,” but rather as leverage for the president to work diplomatic channels. (She did not mention that she also said at the time that she cast her vote "with conviction.")

Mrs. Clinton also took issue with President Bush’s recent statements that he did not expect to have the troops out of Iraq by the time he leaves office.

“I think it’s the height of irresponsibility and I really resent it — this was his decision to go to war, he went with an ill-conceived plan, an incompetently executed strategy, and we should expect him to extricate our country from this before he leaves office,” the senator said this morning…

Hillary Clinton is a liar.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hillary-clintons-lies-about-iraq-caught-on-video-tape

[meow mix]

9. ME TOO. ive finally had enough of hillary this is the last straw

untill she commits a worse atrocity

[MoonRiver]

10. Whatever. Never know what will crawl into DU:P anymore.

:wtf:

[stop the bleeding]

11. Thats it I had with HRC???? what the fuck kind of way is that to speak?

ans stop with the name calling

[Thrill]

12. The comment today did it for me.

I just can't vote for her ever now. I'd rather vote for Nadar.

[oasis]

26. adios.

:hi:

[sandnsea]

14. If she doesn't earn the nomination

fair and square, I won't vote either. I've had it with people who have been fighting the status quo in DC for years, and cannot see that the Clintons are the leaders of the Dem status quo. If that's how she wins, fuck it, I'm not taking part in it.

[easy_b94]

18. I really hope BO wins tomorrow...BILLARY has to be stop..I am sick of her.

[emilyg]

21. H i L L A R Y

Learn to spell.

[midora]

40. H E L L A R Y

I like to spell her name this way, because I think it suits her unique and charming personality.

[Gol]

20. I will not vote for HRC no matter who

her opponent is. I would vote for a ham sandwich over Clinton at this point!

[gateley]

23. I've "had it with her", too --

but will vote for her if it comes to that.

I've never had to do that before, vote for someone I feel so negatively about, but if I don't vote, and the republicans win, I wouldn't be able to forgive myself for not putting my personal feelings aside.

There have been a lot of these threads today it seems. Has it been decided that Hillary will get the nom? :shrug:

[midora]

31. I Wish I Could Say I Would Vote for HRC

if she gets the nomination. I've always supported the Democratic Presidential candidate. Fortunately, I've never had a major problem with any past nominees. I could never vote for a Republican, but I can't vote for Hillary either. She is too vicious and ruthless and I don't want her in the White House.

[gateley]

43. Totally understand.

But I don't want McCain in the WH MORE than I don't want her in the WH.

Just keep visualizing Obama behind that big desk in the Oval Office, looking around and saying "man, this is pretty cool."

[The_Casual_Observer]

24. You have to be 18 to vote anyway. You have about 10 years to go.

[Catherine Vincent]

29. How republican!

:eyes:

[earthlover]

32. Why should I vote for Hillary agaisnt McCain if she prefers McCain to Obama?

If she can't see the value of supporting the Democratic nominee, then fuck her! It was her choice, not mine. I cannot support a president who is not loyal to the Democratic party. Hillary is not. She can go to hell. And take her buddy McCain with her.

This past week or two has been like a time warp for me. I actually after the Texas debate posted I thought Hillary should be considered for VP. One thing after another, she keeps going lower and lower. Appealing to fear. What on earth difference is there underneath the politics between her and Bush? She has the same mentality. Not the same politics, but the same mentality. Her administration would be a continuation of the Bush mentality. Pftttt.

[Cha]

37. Good points..hilary's cutting her

own throat and it makes me wonder what does she think is going to happen if she doesn't get the nom? Is she going to turn into a toad?

[ileus]

33. Hillary = 50 states in 2008 Don't throw that chance away...Please.

[Carolina]

34. Totally agree with you K&R

[AX10]

38. I have had enough of Obama and his....

double talk.

I will write-in HRC if Obama is the nominee.

[Arugula Latte]

39. She has finally made me despise her.