Quit Blaming Hillary

[CatnHat]

for all the crap Obama is in. Try putting the blame where it belongs. When will Obama start taking responsibility for HIS messes. (kinda sound like another politician; hint GWB) Obama and his supporters just point fingers at Hillary,the press, even celebrities or politicians who support Hillary, and "hope" the bad stuff about Obama would just go away. The only thing I see coming out of his campaign is deception.

[kwenu]

1. When will Hillary start taking responsibility for the Clinton's messes????

[Skittles]

7. when will you start taking responsibility for bush's messes

??????

[kwenu]

8. I voted for Gore and Kerry. Bush isn't my mess. Thanks for playing.

[Skittles]

9. I don't believe you

end of game

[kwenu]

10. Don't Care.

[mcctatas]

2. But it's so much fun...

[TheDonkey]

3. Hillary is disgusting and deserves to go down in defeat

I just pray she doesn't take the party down with her like she plans.

[jlake]

16. Dramatic much?

[mmonk]

4. There's never been any deception from the Clintons.

By the way, how are Hsu and Rich doing?

[Rageneau]

12. Where's the deception in either of these cases?

Hsu and Rich have exactly the same relationship to Clinton that Rezko has to Obama, except the Obama/Rezko bond is stronger, longer and much more personal.

[Why Syzygy]

20. huh? Impeachment? For . drum roll . deception.

[Tarheel_Dem]

32. Surely you jest.

:rofl:

[anigbrowl]

5. I blame Hillary for Barack Obama being the front runner

Oh alright, Obama's responsible for being in that position.

[JVS]

6. Hillary is responsible for her actions, and when she acts like a fuckwad we're right to call it.

[Ichingcarpenter]

22. Blow me!!

Cause that didn't hurt getting Gore Elected.

I love it because now we can use that
term and not get removed at this site
if we use it presidentially.:) :)


We can't use fuck you, but we can use Blow me
Thanks to the Clintons.

What a country!!!!!

[still_one]

11. The only thing I blame Hillary on is voting for the IWR, which is bad enough /nt

[DesEtoiles]

13. I blame Hillary for all the stupid, selfish crap she has done.

[avrdream]

14. Thanks for that.

The truth, that is.

[autorank]

15. He is in only one thing relevant to this discussion - the lead!

He's winning, Hillary is not. He's maintaining his poise, she's certainly not.

She's had weeks of cheap little tricks and they're all lame. She's got a pollster and guru
who supports fascists overseas (Italy, to be specific, Berlusconi). She voted for the Iraq
war when, if she'd just logged on to DU, she could have seen a collection of newspaper articles
before the vote that showed clearly that there were no weapons of mass destruction.

She said it was a "very hard vote" on IWR but that's not true. It was easy: the administration
is lying, vote no.

She's in a world of trouble, she and the rest of the war supporters, when the truth finally reaches
our shores - 1.0 million dead Iraqi's, 5.0 million Iraqi orphans, tens of thousands more deaths,
many due to suicide, among our troops. Nice work Hillary. She never mentions these things.
There's a reason why?

[Window]

17. NO!

[guyanakoolaid]

18. Funny you talk about Obama being "in crap"...

when Hillary is obviously the one shitting her pants about today.

[emilyg]

23. Still in your teens?

[cali]

19. the only thing I see coming out of Hilly's campaign is lies and

decdption. Futhermore it's time for Obama to run an ad with Hill and Hsu beaming at each other and then Hsu in his prison Garb, fade to a picture of her with Gupta, etc. She's got so much more dirt packed away than Obama. He hasn't attacked her on her connections with shady corrupt people and felons. Time to start.

[emilyg]

24. Rezko.

[cali]

28. LOL!! Hsu, Gupta, Giustra, Paul

[TheWraith]

21. I think you're confusing messes and smears.

See, contrary to what Hillary would like, Obama's not in any messes. He's about as clean a politician as has ever lived. Smears, on the other hand, there are aplenty, originating mostly from the Clinton camp and the Republicans--which might as well be the same thing these days--up to and including Hillary herself hemming and hawing on the "Obama as secret Muslim" smear on fucking 60 Minutes.

[emilyg]

25. The smear is all in your mind.

[TheWraith]

26. So are Hillary Clinton's chances of winning. I think I'll clear my mind.

[LiberalAndProud]

27. I don't blame Hillary much.

Sincerely, I think McCain's team is supplying the ammo. I just wish we weren't so willing to lob the grenades at ourselves. The negativity is escalating and it won't help our chances in November, regardless of which candidate gets the nod.

Edited to say that I hold neither Obama nor Clinton blameless.

[Gore1FL]

29. Would that crap be

The delegate lead?

The polling lead in upcoming contests?

I am not sure of what crap you are speaking.

[GeorgeGist]

30. How do I know that you're not just ...

another idiot, like GWB, who demands the loyalty of other idiots?

[stillcool]

31. Start Blaming Hillary

Hold her accountable for the Campaign She is running.

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail

A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."

"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html

January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”

http://graphics.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080112_nevada_lawsuit.pdf
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/a-feisty-bill-clinton-defends-nevada-lawsuit/
CLINTON ALLIES SUPPRESS THE VOTE IN NEVADA...
On Meet the Press on Sunday, Hillary Clinton said her campaign had nothing to do with a lawsuit--written about by Nation Editor Katrina vanden Heuvel--that threatens to prevent thousands of workers from voting in the Nevada caucus on Saturday.
Back in March, the Nevada Democratic Party agreed to set up caucus locations on the Vegas strip for low-income shift workers, many of them members of the state's influential Culinary Union, who commute long distances to work and wouldn't be able to get home in time to caucus. It was an uncontroversial idea until the Culinary Union endorsed Barack Obama and the Nevada State Education Association, whose top officials support Clinton, sued to shut down the caucus sites.
The Clinton camp played dumb until yesterday, when President Clinton came out in favor of the lawsuit.
Clinton's comments drew a heated response from D. Taylor, the head of Nevada's Culinary Union, on MSNBC's Hardball. "He is in support of disenfranchising thousands upon thousands of workers, not even just our members," Taylor said of Clinton. "The teachers union is just being used here. We understand that This is the Clinton campaign. They tried to disenfranchise students in Iowa. Now they're trying to disenfranchise people here in Nevada, who are union members and people of color and women."
Rank-and-file members of Nevada's teachers union also come out against the lawsuit filed by their leadership. "We never thought our union and Senator Clinton would put politics ahead of what's right for our students, but that's exactly what they're doing," the letter stated. "As teachers, and proud Democrats, we hope they will drop this undemocratic lawsuit and help all Nevadans caucus, no matter which candidate they support."
The lawsuit's opponents make a persuasive point. Creating obstacles to voting is what the GOP does to Democrats, not what Democrats should be doing to other Democrats.

COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34

Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs

Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance
By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008

The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's Super Tuesday primary, which she won.
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html

Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says.

Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)

Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.
Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html

Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET

The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
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Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
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Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused. I made unfortunate comments that do not accurately reflect my bipartisan conviction, political philosophy, or most importantly, my opinions about Senator Obama and his historic campaign for the United States presidency."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg