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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:25 AM
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Clinton Says Obama Was MIA on Afghanistan. But Was She, Too?
Glass housed people throwing stones...

http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/03/7442_clinton_says_ob.html

In the past few days, as Hillary Clinton has intensified her attacks on Barack Obama prior to the all-important primaries in Ohio and Texas, she has claimed that he has been "missing in action" regarding Afghanistan. Clinton has been trying to make the case that she's better prepped than Obama to be commander-in-chief and more qualified to answer the phone at 3:00 a.m. when crisis strikes. To prove her point, she notes that Obama, who chairs a foreign relations subcommittee covering European matters, has held not one hearing on how to bolster NATO in Afghanistan. This weekend she told reporters on her campaign plane that he has failed in a "responsibility that is directly related to Afghanistan." She urged the journos to grill Obama on this. She said that Afghanistan is "one of the two most important challenges internationally." And she added, "I think he was missing in action...because he was running for president."

It's true that Obama has convened no meetings of the subcommittee, but his camp counters that he became chair of the subcommittee early last year, just as he was starting his presidential campaign. Clinton is technically correct that Obama could have used the subcommittee to conduct oversight of actions and policies related to Afghanistan. But the full foreign relations committee, under the guidance of Senator Joe Biden, has held several hearings on Afghanistan that covered NATO's role there. It's not as if the foreign relations committee did nothing on Afghanistan because Obama did not take on the mission. Also, as happens with many committees, the chair of the full committee reserves the right to handle the big issues him- or herself, and Afghanistan counts as a big issue.

Clinton ought to be careful about hurling stones in this area. As she always tells campaign crowds, she is a member of the Senate armed services committee. In February the committee held two hearings on Afghanistan. On February 8, it focused on appropriations for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates was a witness. Eight days later, the committee zeroed in on U.S. strategy in Afghanistan, holding a two-part hearing examining recent reports on Afghanistan. Key witnesses included senior officials from the State Department and the Pentagon responsible for the administration's Afghanistan policy.

Clinton attended neither of these hearings. She was on the campaign trail.

Many hearings occur on Capitol Hill without all members--or even a majority of members--of the committee in attendance. In fact, that's more common than not. At plenty of hearings, the committee chair is the only senator or representative present. So it's no surprise or scandal that Clinton was not there for these two Afghanistan hearings. (She did participate in two hearings on Afghanistan held by the committee in the first half of 2007.) But in a campaign season, a spinner could easily say that she's guilty of the same charge she tosses at Obama: putting presidential campaigning ahead of Afghanistan. Her neglect, certainly, is not the same as his: he held no hearings for a year; she attended no hearings this year. But as Clinton throws the kitchen sink at Obama, she ought to make sure nuts and bolts don't bounce back at her.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:29 AM
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1. Same dishonest crap from HRC.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:29 AM
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2. Awesome, thanks for posting!
This is a great counter to her argument...wish someone had pointed this out earlier. I did think it was a risky strategy for her to criticize his absence in the Senate...she hasn't exactly spent a lot of time there herself lately.

Just out of curiosity, was there any particular reason to hold hearings on NATO in Afghanistan? I don't argue that he should have convened the subcommittee at least once in the past year, but I think Clinton is bringing in the Afghanistan angle to make him seem more negligent than if she had criticized him simply for not holding hearings on Europe, which is what his committee oversees. Afghanistan is a more pressing foreign policy issue, so I think she used the NATO angle to bring Afghanistan into the mix, since this looks more important than saying he hadn't held hearings on US relations with the UK or something.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:45 AM
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13. There WERE hearings in the full SFRC on NATO in Afghanistan
and there were hearings in the Near East and South Asia sub-committee - there were already THREE this year. You are likely right on HRC's opting to mention Afghanistan - and I think she succeeded in blindsiding him as he did not respond to the Afghanistan aspect. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/27/10645/7336/820/464968 - for links to SFRC on this issue

He should have asked if HRC had a problem with the fact that Biden and Kerry (in those positions) had had hearings. A Lugar aide said that it was typical that important issues were handled by the whole committee.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:31 AM
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3. Could we possibly give this CRAP up for one day!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:32 AM
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4. Was it the article or the truth that hurts? nt
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:34 AM
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5. Not at all and lets discuss Rezko and other things that will help to
make candidate Obama not appear to be so Lilly like.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:35 AM
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7. You sound like Wolfson with absolutely no proof of anything. nt
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:36 AM
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9. Primaries aren't about proof they are about sensationlism!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:40 AM
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12. You can say that again-I agree. Too bad the truth doesn't matter. nt
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:34 AM
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6. That's two hearings this year for Hillary Clinton to Obama's ZERO
Obama's ZERO attendance. Obama's ZERO hearings convened.

WHERE did Obama demonstrate his concern for the issues of Afghanistan during his term in the Senate? Is there ANY record of his personal and direct involvement in these issues during his Senate term??
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:35 AM
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8. K/R.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:39 AM
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10. K&R Thanks. n/t
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:40 AM
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11. kick
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:49 AM
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14. Did she chair a committee that convened zero hearings?
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 10:49 AM by Yossariant
:rofl:

Obama can't carry her shoes.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:51 AM
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15. Huge Difference Between Having A Meeting Where Things Are Discussed, And Not Having One At All.
This comparison in the OP is just all sorts of dumb. David Corn is either not too bright, or expects his readers to not be.

Horribly illogical analogy, and totally weak attempt at trying to even the playing field as it relates to that issue.
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