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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:37 AM
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'Did I say Osama? I meant Obama!' says Clintonite
by James Oliphant

A lawyer in a predominantly Democratic suburb of Cleveland relates this tale to The Swamp on the day before the all-important Ohio primary:

So last night around dinner time, the phone rings. It’s the Hillary campaign–official number, per the caller ID. The woman on the other end asks me if Hillary can count on my support Tuesday. I say I have not decided.

She asks what would help me decide. I say, “Well . . . maybe she can make Bill her vice president.” She does not know how to take me, of course, but has to assume I am serious. “I don’t think she can do that.” “Bill will have a significant role in major decisions, though, won’t he?” I ask. “Oh, certainly he will be very involved. Do you like Bill?” “Very much.” I reply.

She then launches into a two-minute spiel on all the very specific initiatives and proposals Hillary has put forth on health care, the war in Iraq, etc., etc. At the end of her spiel, she says, “And we haven’t heard anything that specific from Osama bin Laden.”

I say, “You did not just say that.” She replies, “I’m sorry . . . just a slip of the tongue.” She then thanks me for my time and encourages me to vote for Hillary on Tuesday.

The lawyer says he was "stunned" and tells The Swamp the call originated from the Clinton campaign in Columbus. Are the dirty tricks ramping up as we get down to the wire? Swamp readers in Ohio and Texas, relate your own encounters with the Clinton or Obama campaigns if you've had them

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/did_i_say_osama_i_meant_obama.html
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:38 AM
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1. This is considered a news source now?
:puke:
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:43 AM
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2. Two things - I never said it was news and second
I never said I vouch for its accuracy. It could be accurate - or not, "as far as I know"

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:45 AM
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6. Then why post it?
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:47 AM
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8. Because it could be true
This is a discussion board, not a news center
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:48 AM
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10. Nope -- you posted it to stir up shit
This is nothing but flamebait.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:56 AM
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:43 AM
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3. even I consider that a slip of the tongue from a working volunteer
and not a directive from the campaign. Though I will admit this is one of the worst run campaigns in my memory, but I don't think they're instructing volunteers to make those "slips" intentionally.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:45 AM
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7. I agree, as far as I know (nt)
x
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:44 AM
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4. Hillary would not do that, as far as I know
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:45 AM
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5. In Ohio, some Hillary callers were telling voters not to vote for a Muslim over a woman.
Numerous reports and phone calls into us at the Obama HQ in Cincinnati. They've been trying to source it for days.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:47 AM
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9. Get used to it
If Obama gets the nomination, expect to hear this about a million times a day.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:53 AM
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12. You prefer Whitewater and Filegate and Vince Foster and Katlheen Willeys's cat,
and Flowers and Paula Jones and the McDougals and on and on and on and on and on.

I've had enough of that shit, even if the Clintons were totally faultless in all of it. I don't want to spend the next 8 years talking about Bill's pecker.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:59 AM
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22. Interesting that you extrapolate that from what I said
I guess you think my pointing that out is meant to cast aspersions on his electability. I never said anything of the kind, but whatever.

If Obama gets the nomination, all of right wing radio and the entire mouth-breather population of this country will call him "Osama." It's happening already. I'm just pointing it out. If Obama gets the nomination, we should be ready for it. I'm sorry if you feel that turns me into a miniature Mark Penn.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:03 PM
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27. Don't forget Monica, Marc Rich, and The Lincoln Bedroom.
I'll bet Lucianne Goldberg is getting a hard-on. ;-)
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:50 AM
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11. So you've never heard of people pretending to be for a candidate when they're really against?
It's number one in the Republican playbook.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:55 AM
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15. Oh, I see, Victor/Victoria campaign calls
An Obama supporter claiming to be a Clinton supporter?

But what if it was a Clinton supporter claiming to be an Obama supporter claiming to be a Clinton supporter.

Does Julie Andrews support Clinton?
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:56 AM
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17. Did I say Obama?
I said Republican. But pretend I said whatever you like, since that seems to be the thing on DU lately.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:53 AM
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13. Don't assume these are volunteers - she's paid millions to phonebanking outfits >
In January >

Landmark Strategies, Inc. - paid: 312,899.96 owed: 99,117.30 (phone banking http://www.publicintegrity.org/consultants/list.aspx?ac... ) (http://landmarkstrategies.com/Desc.htm )

The Spoken Hub, LLC - paid: 97,119.97 owed: 315,857.10 (phone banking http://spokenhub.com /)

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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:54 AM
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14. Ted Kennedy did the same thing introducing Obama, sometime last year.
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 11:54 AM by Mags
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:57 AM
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19. He did not say "Osama bin Laden"
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:58 AM
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check here for Teddy
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:59 AM
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23. He did not say "Osama bin Laden"
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:55 AM
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16. A Friend Told Me The Other Day That An Obama Staffer Called Him And Told Him His Soul Was Doomed To
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 11:56 AM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
hell for eternity if he voted for Hillary.

Totally disgusting tactic. Obama should be ashamed of himself for incorporating such dirty tricks. I don't know how you all can support him when he pulls shit like that.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:59 AM
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21. Of course you responded that it couldn't be so because Obama is the anti-Christ
I am glad someone else is having fun with this thread.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:02 PM
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25. We All Should Be Having Fun With This Thread. After All, It's A Joke. n/t
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:18 PM
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31. Well yes, it was originally intended to be that way
But apparently everyone is wrapped so tight today that I decided to just follow it through to its logical, or illogical, conclusion.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:23 PM
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36. My cousin's uncle said
your friend doesn't know that Obama staffer.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:27 PM
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37. Your Cousin's Uncle WAS That Obama Staffer.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:30 PM
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38. That's on the q.t. shhhhh... Loose lips sink ships.
button it bucko
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:58 AM
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20. Why don't you call Tom Hartman and complain.
He's done it SEVERAL times on the air.

Smoke on that.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:00 PM
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24. christ, is it all freeper-language now? should we start using their ever-clever "Hitlery" too?
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:02 PM
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26. Yet another piece of gossip that no one can independently verify.
And that kind of well-poisoning is the entire basis for the myth that Hillary is evil.

--p!
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:04 PM
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28. Wow. This has absolutely no proof and yet it's already become a 'fact' in the anti-Clinton narrative
Time after time you guys do this. I am so sick of the character assassination around here!
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:06 PM
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29. You mean no proof like no proof Obama is a Muslim, huh
"as far as I know" as HRC would undoubtedly say
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:28 PM
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33. Hyper-parsed uber-spin
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:31 PM
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35. Pardon, but I would prefer "Oba-Spin"
It's pretty interesting how many lunkers too the bait on this one. Frankly I thought it was kind of transparent, like something from The Onion, but I guess people are too uptight today and should have known better.

But what the heck? It's killing some time until the polls close.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:11 PM
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30. ...
:popcorn:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:25 PM
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32. "Osama" can be a slip. "Osama bin Laden" requires a lobotomy not to know what you're saying.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:29 PM
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34. Oh look! You've already filed it in your Clinton narrative!
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