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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:02 PM Original message |
Has any other candidate EVER praised the opposition at the expense of a primary opponent? |
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monktonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. **crickets** |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. *crickets* |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. *more crickets* |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. *crickets* (it said I had an error and to retry but posted it anyway??) |
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Abacus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
5. *pin drops* |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
6. No |
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shrub chipper (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. HEY!!! |
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blocker (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
8. No way that is acceptable |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
9. I guess this is what she meant by bi-partisan? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
10. Beuller? Beuller? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
11. hey- good question. - |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
12. Can't think of a candidate, but can think of a former president |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
61. There was a candidate - Lieberman who praised Bush over both Dean and Kerry |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
13. . |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:02 PM Original message |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
14. Yes....Obama did when he praised Reagan and Republicans, trying to get the IN & Rethug vote |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Reagan's running? They let zombies in the elections now? NT |
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Ravachol (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Well... Thompson did run... |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. LOL! True. NT |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Is that all there is? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. ... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. He didn't praise him, his view was academic and stated a reality - that Reagan's presidency |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #20 |
71. Be straight. His words and tone were praise. The whole thing was repellent. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Acknowledgement that Reagan's APPROACH worked. So well that Clinton ACCEPTED IT FIRMLY |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. I hear the civil rights movement didn't make civil rights happen. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Did he directly compare Reagan with Hillary Clinton? |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
37. Get used to President Obama, Lulu! |
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Liberal Dose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
72. Did Obama compare Clinton to Reagan and say that Reagan was better? Exactly. nt |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
18. Joe Leiberman and HIllary have a lot in common: betrayal. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
22. I'd love to hear that it's happened before. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
62. Leiberman did in primary debates on the policy on Iraq |
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KaptBunnyPants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
23. You'd think that someone would have an example of something similar. |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
26. I don't know--but what about obama praising ronnie ray-gun? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. There are many, many instances of politicians praising dead Presidents of the other party. |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. that is okay, then, but what hillary said isn't? the virulent hatred of her demonstrated |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Praising the presumptive Republican nominee over a Democratic contender is a no-no. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Pointing out he has experience |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. When she frequently invokes it as a reason to vote for her instead of Obama, |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Unmistakable to you perhaps |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. "All Obama supporters apply negative motives to people." |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Who other than you |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. What free pass did Obama get? And what about the issue here? |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
76. Reagan isn't running. Obama is. |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
27. I think this qualifies |
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LSdemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
29. Ted Kennedy did infamously refuse to shake Jimmy Carter's hand at the 1980 convention |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Worse than that, Ted |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Teddy was a complete asshole for doing that. I'm still not sure if I've forgiven him |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Yeah, I'll never forgive Ted. Hillary didn't |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. That was my read as well |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. OK, then I'll just say she was stupid as fuck |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Because McCain never |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. He wouldn't have video of one of the most prominent Democrats shilling for him |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Give me an example of |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. OK, you've answered my question. I guess you really are. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Oh Goody |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Yep, keep that bubble nice and secure. |
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Liberal Dose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
73. Then she should've chosen the words you did to get that message across. Very poor choice of words on |
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BringBigDogBack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
34. Corporate candidates... |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
35. I have never heard of it and I have been around for a while. McCain will have a good campaign ad. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
36. Lieberman. Wallace. Thurmond before he split. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. She's in some fine company |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
40. You mean the way that |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. No, I don't mean that way at all |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Please link me to where |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:14 PM Original message |
parsing -- the last refuge of a Clinton apologist. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
55. Keep up, will you |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. I NEVER used the word "unmistable". How dare you mischaracterize my statements that way!!!1111 |
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Voice for Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
41. Maybe a new 2-party system should be created: the Nasties & the Hopefuls |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
46. AND has run in opposition to "hope" |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Well, in fairness, "hope" is all her candidacy has left at this point. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #52 |
74. LOLI don't remember my opinion of a Democrat falling so far so fast |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
50. Only the Clintons do this; remember their policy of "triangulation." |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
57. But she didn't praise McCain |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. Right. Saying he has "a lifetime of experience" is really a vicious attack |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. Actually what she said was that she and McCain both have the experience |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
58. Obama said the repukes were the party of ideas for the last couple decades. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. You really need to read the other posts in a thread before replying |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
60. It happened in 2004 - Leiberman praised Bush on Iraq |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
77. I guess that puts Hillary in good company, then. |
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