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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:48 PM
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Sorry Hillary Supporters
Obama will win three out of the four contests tonight, OH, TX, VT. He will rout her in the delegate game. Also, watch for a gang of superdelegates to jump on the bandwagon. I hope we can all come together when that times comes.

:D
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:49 PM
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1. What makes you say that?
I hope you are right, but I am not so optimistic.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:50 PM
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5. He will
Trust me
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Wayjose Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:55 PM
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12. Obama will lose OH and narrowly win TX if not lose it
but he will continue to lead in the delegate race. He will probably net more delegates in TX than Hillary. Also there are bad reports coming out of TX where there are accusations against the Obama team of cheating (see Rightpundits.com)
In spite of Hillary doing well tonight she will have to resist intense pressure to get out of the campaign...
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:00 PM
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20. Lose OH?
No way. The polls say one thing but they don't capture the full reality of things on the ground. He will win OH narrowly and rout her in TX (in delegates) by way of the two step primary/caucus set up.
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JKaiser Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:50 PM
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2. Obama probably will
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:50 PM
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3. I will kick this when you are wrong.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:51 PM
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6. Why?
If I had a problem with this thread being kicked, then why would I post it in the first place?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:55 PM
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13. this is not flame bait. as far as I know.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:50 PM
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4. A flamebaiter asking us to come together? Interesting. nt
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:53 PM
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9. A "flamebaiter"?
Some of you need to speak in "real world" language some of the time. What the hell is that?

I support Barack but he has pissed me off in the past couple of days, but I am still on the squad. So kiss off.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:53 PM
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7. he will lead her in delegates but not rout her
Its impossible for anybody to rout delegates unless they are getting over 60%
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:54 PM
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11. I think he has a strong possibility of routing her at the caucus in TX
I think he will do well in the caucus part in TX. I wonder when those results will be made available. How long will the caucus last?

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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:57 PM
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16. The caucus delegates won't be assigned until May or June.
I think.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:04 PM
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22. Well when
those results come out it will show a tremendous delegate lead in the caucus part for Obama.

I mean, Hillary Supporters, Obama has like a 150 delegate lead. The onus is not on him to rout her, but she must rout him. But he will do so anyway. TX is a lock. He will win OH narrowly. Look at the delegate rich districts is ALL I'm saying. Never underestimate Obama.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:00 PM
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21. two hours - yes that is possible - probably not wise to flaunt it until it has actually happened
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:06 PM
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23. You
must believe IT to achieve IT.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:53 PM
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8. **** Five reasons Clinton could come back
Five reasons Clinton could come back

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/8820.html

Five reasons Clinton could come back
By: Jim VandeHei and John F. Harris
March 4, 2008 03:38 PM EST

For weeks, the widespread expectation among most campaign journalists has been that the race for the Democratic nomination will, for all practical purposes, come to an end Tuesday night with a victory for Barack Obama.

Given the predictive record of reporters so far this election cycle, that is by itself a good reason to believe that Hillary Rodham Clinton is headed later this evening for a game-changing comeback in Ohio and Texas.

If it happens, we can think of five reasons why.

Several have as much to do with the idiosyncrasies of news media psychology — and the way this influences political story lines — as they do with any tactical brilliance by Clinton’s campaign.

After all, Clinton’s operatives have been complaining for months about Obama’s unreadiness to be commander in chief and a double standard in coverage. Only in recent days have these protests started to get much traction.

Please delete this story if actual voters render it obsolete a few hours from now. But until the results come in, take some time to contemplate the hidden reasons for the Clinton Comeback.

1. The "SNL" Factor. Just when you thought no one watched "Saturday Night Live" anymore, the show made a star cameo on this year’s trail. The Not Ready for Prime Time Players were brutally effective in exposing the fawning coverage of Obama. Never underestimate the power of shame in journalism. "SNL’s" mockery went straight to reporters’ insecurities. Being accused of falling “in the tank” for a candidate is the journalistic equivalent of a nerdish high school freshman getting a wedgie from the jocks.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:53 PM
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10. 3 for Obama? Not gonna happen.
:)
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:56 PM
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14. Okay
Why not? TX is definitely strong for Obama. A lot of pollsters aren't picking up first time voters and non-democrats...and we all know how they will go. Same in OH. I think the pundits will be stunned by the end of tonight. That is all I have to say.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:57 PM
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15. If wishes were horses...
...and all that. I wonder what some of the Obama supporters will say if Hillary wins big time tonight?

Oh, yes. There's always voter fraud.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:11 PM
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25. I doubt it
but if she does, I will honestly be shocked, stunned, and in utter disbelief. I will have no choice but to contribute it to the negative campaigning of the last few days. I believe OH and TX voters are much smarter than what her campaign believes them to be. But, trust me, this will end tonight.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:58 PM
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17. ..
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:59 PM
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18. Sorry, you're wrong. Hillary will win OH, TX and RI
today. However, she won't win by enough and yes, a lot of SDs will likely be endorsing Obama soon.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:08 PM
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24. She can have RI
but I am not ready to concede TX and OH. Sorry. Obama closed that gap TOO fast and not to mention that these polls traditionally don't pick up voters who are traditionally left out of polling and new voters/crossovers. Then look at the undecideds. Obama will take them down.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:12 PM
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26. Rhode Island is the key
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:16 PM
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28. RI is spin
for Hillary's campaign right now. This campaign season is far from the norm/traditional. If it were so, I assume Hillary would have already won the nomination by now.

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:52 PM
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29. you might enjoy the link i provided but you have to read down the thread to
get your money's worth if you like it add some outrageous comment and let it come back from the grave for some more fun
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:04 PM
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30. lol
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:59 PM
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19. It will happen.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:13 PM
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27. Thank you.
People just need to face reality. It's pointless to keep fighting over this.
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:06 PM
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31. I wish, but I think otherwise
You're setting yourself up for a major flaming later by the way. Obama will be lucky to win TX tonight.
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