Hillary must win Ohio and Texas - Just Ohio is a defeat. No spinning!
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Tue Mar-04-08 04:31 PM
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Hillary must win Ohio and Texas - Just Ohio is a defeat. No spinning!
A week ago it was Hillary Ohio and Texas by wide margins.. Everyone is lowering expectations to keep this alive.. If she loses 1 of the two.. This night was a big win for Obama. Obama was never supposed to win Texas or Ohio. To win any of them was huge.. Even Bill said she has to win both.. BOTH.
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Tue Mar-04-08 04:32 PM
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1. That is something I agree with. I think she could very well win both, but she needs to win both.
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Tue Mar-04-08 04:33 PM
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2. What % does she need to win by?
A week or so ago I read here that it had to be 16% in each Tx and Oh to pull even (I think) does that sound right?
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Tue Mar-04-08 04:42 PM
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Um, er, 57-43. Everywhere.
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Tue Mar-04-08 04:33 PM
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I think it's likely Clinton will take one or the other tonight. She may even take both. But if she ONLY takes one, she's done.
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Tue Mar-04-08 04:33 PM
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4. and she must win with 65-35 numbers
a two point victory nets her 2 delegates or so. At that rate it would take her 75 more states to cut his lead, provided he didnt win any more states...oh wait there are only 14 or so left, d'oh
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Tue Mar-04-08 04:40 PM
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9. Should she win both, the game is guaranteed not over
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 04:45 PM by def0
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:34 PM
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16. Correct, if her victories don't overwhemingly impact the delegate scorecard,
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Tue Mar-04-08 04:34 PM
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5. Yeah, that "biased" against Clinton media
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Tue Mar-04-08 04:34 PM
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6. She needs more than that.
There's no plausible way for her to win the nomination without blowout wins starting today.
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Tue Mar-04-08 04:35 PM
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7. she'll continue to spin in order to take in more donations before dropping
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Tue Mar-04-08 04:36 PM
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8. I think she'll win both tonight, but the question is by how much?
She needs to win by large margins (15-20%) in both to really get back in the game. I don't see that happening.
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Tue Mar-04-08 04:43 PM
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11. I hate to say it but I think she is going to win both Ohio and Texas.
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Tue Mar-04-08 05:48 PM
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12. She doesn't just have to win both...she has to win both by large enough margins
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 05:48 PM by MercutioATC
The last time I checked it was something like 15%-18% margins in both states.
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Tue Mar-04-08 05:49 PM
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13. Ohio, alone, means the candidate wins the GE
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:38 PM
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18. That's a pretty illogical statement
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:40 PM
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21. Primary performance is not the same as GE performance
Hillary lost VT but I guarantee she would take it in the GE.
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:52 PM
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but I guarantee he would take them in the GE.
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:57 PM
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31. Right, I was trying to show a Clinton example...
...lest I be accused of being part of the Vast Obama Conspiracy.
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:31 PM
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:32 PM
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15. I agree - she may narrowly take OH...
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:37 PM
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17. Straight from the Big Dog's mouth
So let's hold his feet to the fire.
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:39 PM
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and she has to win them hands down.
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:39 PM
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:40 PM
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22. She'll stay in if she wins OH and RI
most likely. I am really hoping for an Obama upset in OH, and then we'll see if she really thinks she can make the "buyers' remorse" argument winning just RI.
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:41 PM
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23. MSNBC showed her winning both and losing delegates
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:42 PM
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24. Obama might actually pull away tonight if he wins TX
he might get a ton of extra delegates if he does well in texas tonight might leave hillary farther behind than she started
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:43 PM
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25. we don't know that obama's won texas yet.
the early votes are coming from austin/houston/dallas areas. and the western part of texas still hasn't reported.
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:43 PM
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26. Bill and James Carville said both!
James has said point blank many times - she must win both or it's over (exact quote).
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:43 PM
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27. Spoken from Bill's lips...... n/t
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Tue Mar-04-08 08:45 PM
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28. ...he said, as he started spinning.
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