Clinton FAKING NEWS REPORTS on Radio...another Rovian move

[jackstraw45]

http://weblogs.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/politics/blog/2008/03/latest_clinton_tactic_fake_new.html

Latest Clinton tactic: Fake news reports

The Clinton campaign's latest tactic in Ohio is, apparently, a radio ad that tries to make listeners think it's a news report until the very end.

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Here's the script:

"This is an election news update with a major news story reported by the AP. While Senator Obama has crisscrossed Ohio giving speeches attacking NAFTA, his top economic advisor was telling the Canadians that was all just political maneuvering. A newly released document from the Canadian government shows that Obama’s senior economic advisor met with the Canadian Consul General and made clear that Obama’s attack on NAFTA were just, quote, “political maneuvering,” not policy. Political maneuvering, not policy. In fact, the document shows that Obama’s advisor also assured the Canadians that these attacks against NAFTA would not continue. Obama would not want to be, quote, “fundamentally changing the agreement.” As Senator Obama was telling one story to Ohio, his campaign was telling a very different story to Canada. How will Ohioans decide whether they can believe Senator Obama’s words? We’ll find that out on election day. Paid for by Hillary Clinton for President."

[democrattotheend]

1. Pretty obnoxious

If she wants to do an ad about the NAFTA flap, fine, but presenting it like a news story is pretty misleading.

[jackstraw45]

2. Loyalty oaths and fake press conferences can't be far behind....nt

nt

[Kittycat]

13. Loyalty oaths are already "requested" to enter her townhalls.

Sound familiar?

Edited to change Required to Requested. There have been several reports here on DU where neutral members went to rallys/townhalls and were asked to fill out "security forms". Near where you sign is a part that reads that you are supporting her with your vote - or somethign along those lines. I tried to search for something else a bit ago, and we are already at defcon something - so I couldn't. If you can try - feel free. I believe the most recent report was early last week.

[Eric J in MN]

18. Link? NT

NT

[hueyshort]

42. Be Mad at OBAMA

He let everybody down.
Hillary is doing a public service by getting the
word out.
Do you really want a double talking, lieing president?
I thought we were ready for change?

[jackstraw45]

23. Seriously? Wow...

She MUST be defeated if that's true.

We don't need the policies of Bushco to be the norm...

[hueyshort]

41. self delete

[suston96]

3. Pretty obnoxious? Must be working......LMAO! nt

[LSparkle]

8. So it doesn't matter HOW a candidate wins, just that she wins?

Oh, I forget -- you guys don't have consciences.

[dchill]

9. Sure, it's working...

but it's a lie, in more ways than one. Hope you're proud of your candidate!

[suston96]

24. My candidate? How do you know who my candidate is?

I posted this a long time ago on another forum board:

In the Zone
Posts: 29037
(12/12/06 12:36 pm)


I love Hillary dearly. At this point, I would be thrilled at seeing Obama as the candidate and watch this country go through his election as president.

That still holds for me.

[lapfog_1]

19. Will you defend ANY tactic if it's your candidate doing it?

Just a question.

I knew this country has long ago abandoned principles in favor of the "just win, baby, win" philosophy... but really? Fake news reports, even using the "AP" in the text? That's "working" for you, is it?

[Arugula Latte]

4. Every day she reveals herself to be more slimey, desperate and traitorous.

She's despicable.

[LSparkle]

5. "This is Karen Ryan, reporting from Washington" part deux

Slimy Rovian tactics. Glad I'm not one of her supporters because hearing this would make me :puke:

[MonkeyFunk]

6. The word "Rovian" has no meaning

if you guys use it this way.

[dchill]

12. Sure it does...

you just don't like the implication.

[papau]

7. anything that does not say Obama walks on water is a "Rovian Move"? LOL

[Kittycat]

16. Oh come the fuck on! How long have you been a member at DU?

You know this bullshit doesn't fly here.

[Seeker30]

10. I'm beginning to smell desperation from Obamites

Getting a little nervous are we?

[jackstraw45]

27. More like the opposite - even with an Ohio loss, Obama should have

the nomination in the bag.

[AtomicKitten]

11. This after Russert nailed her in the last debate for lying about NAFTA.

[BuyingThyme]

14. Pretty standard approach these days.

[anigbrowl]

15. Why would Clinton supporters want to put positive spin on an ad designed to decieve listeners?

I have no poblem with the Clinton campaign criticising Obama over NAFTA. It's their right, there's a campaign on, it's fine.

but to dress it up as if it were a news report? Very, very tacky.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

17. That Actually Accurate And Brilliant.

Don't fault her for his campaign's missteps. I think the ad is not only totally acceptable, but brilliant in its use. Hey, even Hillary gets it right sometimes.

[shraby]

20. I wouldn't condone those tactics from either campaign.

If a person can't win on their own merits they don't deserve the votes.

[jillan]

21. You're posting from Newsday?? Lol - Newsday is a tabloid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsday

What's next - will you be posting from the National Inquirer?

:rofl:

[HeraldSquare212]

25. Newsday's a pretty good paper.

[jillan]

33. It's a tabloid.

[HeraldSquare212]

36. So it folds differently, big deal...there are plenty of lousy broadsheets, I'm sure

[frylock]

44. please use a legit source like the NYT..

and cite only articles penned by Judith Miller, please.

[ProSense]

30. BS! Newsday is a reputable NY paper. No one had a problem using it to clear facts on Obama' mailers.

n/t

[rinsd]

38. You mean clearing facts by Newsday apologizing for a misleading story with nonexistent quotes?

Yeah that;s "reputable"

:rofl:

[RamboLiberal]

34. And is Time Magazine a tabloid?

Hey the ad is real - and it is despicable to do fake news. I hope you'd be all over Bush if he did it.

I would be upset if Obama did it - I don't like any product selling to make me think I'm listening to a legitimate news source! It is Rovian!

http://thepage.time.com/script-of-clinton-radio-ad-provided-by-obama-campaign/

[KittyWampus]

45. I live on Long Island you have no fucking idea what you are talking about.

[HamdenRice]

49. Newsday is an excellent paper. You have no clue

You are confusing two different meanings of the word "tabloid." The technical definition is its size. It's not New York Times size, and that size was originally designed so it could easily be read on the subway.

The slang meaning of "tabloid" is a disreputable, gossipy paper.

Wiki is using the word only in the first sense ("Newsday is a daily tabloid-size newspaper that primarily serves Long Island and the New York City borough of Queens") -- Newsday is tabloid size, but is well known as an excellent paper.

What part of "tabloid-size" can't you wrap your mind around?

Incidentally, Newsday is also the most liberal daily of the major NYC dailies -- to the left of the NY Times and Daily News.

Obviously you have no clue whatsoever about what you are talking about.

Did you even read the wiki article you linked to:

"Editorial Style

"Despite having a tabloid format, Newsday is not known for being sensationalistic, as are other local daily tabloids, such as the New York Daily News and the New York Post.<5> <6> Newsday often uses its clout to influence local politics in Nassau and Suffolk Counties, and is considered to have a liberal political outlook.<7>"

[aquart]

50. Newsday is nothing of the kind.

It's a respectable newspaper, as such things go.

[Forkboy]

22. I would say it's more Wellesian.

[progdog]

26. Oh crap.

And people wonder why it would be hard to vote for her in the GE.
Isn't this what the change is about? Isn't everyone sick of this stuff?
Maybe not. But I am.

[ProSense]

28. Hey, fake news is good! Putting out ads with debunked info disguised as news is brilliant!

Hillary isn't interested in distinguishing the Democratic Party from the Republicans. Push the envelope as close to unethical as possible and call it a smart move.

As Bill said to Rove, "marvelous job." (Hooray for another four years of Bush!)

[NoBorders]

29. So if she doesn't win the nom, she doesn't want Obama to win the GE

This kind of crap from her is damaging him for teh GE in OH. I hope she's happy when McCain is pres.

[progdog]

31. She will be.

It means she only has to wait four years to run again.

[mod mom]

32. right out of rove's playbook.

[complain jane]

35. Goddamn her for revealing Obama's political maneuvering.

If I want to keep my head up my ass and only hear positive things about Obama, it's my choice and I shouldn't be subjected to the truth about a candidate and neither should you. This is very "Rovian" of her, telling the truth about the guy with proof to back it up.... and it's very unpatriotic that you guys heard the truth about a guy you're considering hiring for the job of running the United States of America for the next four years.

She's the antiChrist!!!!!!

:sarcasm:

[FiveGoodMen]

40. Wish I could ignore you twice

[complain jane]

47. I'm honored.

[high density]

37. So what does the Associated Press think of this ad?

I guess lawyer-talk Team Clinton covered their asses by using "AP."

[Vinca]

39. How reminiscent of George W. Bush administration "news." nt

[midora]

43. Kiss My Ass, Hillary!

That ad is despicable, and I don't believe it. Hillary Clinton reminds me more and more of Richard Nixon.

[RB TexLa]

46. You hear those every election

Why are people who are so turned off by politics on a political message board?

[complain jane]

48. I get the impression many of them are new to politics.

[aquart]

51. Even greener than their candidate.

[seabeyond]

53. dirty politics. dishonest politics. rove/bushco politics. why do

people on boards pretend they dont see the obvious

[Bright Eyes]

52. She'll do whatever it takes to win.

Resorting to Rovian tactics is fine to her, if she can steal votes away from Obama.

And if she can't win, then she'll sully Obama's name so much that he can't win the GE. Petty.