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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:52 PM
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Halperin has some hard exit poll data from OH and TX...
http://thepage.time.com/first-wave-of-fox-democratic-exit-polls-for-ohio-texas/

Best to beat the GOP:
Ohio — Obama 52, Clinton 44
Texas — Obama 52, Clinton 41

Offers clear and detailed plans:
Ohio — Clinton 67, Obama 57
Texas — Clinton 66, Obama 52

Inspires you about the future?
Ohio — Obama 67, Clinton 57
Texas — Obama 64, Clinton 57

More than half say they would be dissatisfied if their candidate does not win the nomination.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:54 PM
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1. interesting, buy I haven't a clue as to what it means. n/t
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:55 PM
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2. It means that if this data is close to accurate...
Obama wins both TX and OH tonight.

But that is a big "if".
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:58 PM
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9. Not really
I remember an exit poll that had a lot of people saying Hillary would have a tougher time in the gen. elec. but voting for her anyway, or something like that.

This doesn't tell me anything.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:58 PM
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8. it means that we are going thru that boy we got sucked into the
burning our eyes out on the worthless exit polls because we just cannot wait until the real thing comes out in an hour

oh wait heres another i gotta go bye


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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:58 PM
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12. It means you have to wait a few hours to find out
another long day at the office. I can't wait for this season to be over.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:59 PM
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17. You don't have a clue about much
Sorry -- I just can't take another day of us AGREEING!!!! :hurts:

OK, I feel better now. :hi:

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:05 PM
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35. har de har har
golly aren't you ever the wit? Phew. That does feel better.

:hi:
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:15 PM
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45. Heh.
I was about to flame you for ragging on cali. A little quick with the keyboard, I guess. I need to remember to take DEEP BREATHS tonight. ;-)
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:56 PM
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3. These look favorable for Obama, to my eyes
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:56 PM
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4. The electablility one is what does it.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:57 PM
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7. .
:thumbsup:
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:57 PM
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6. Yeah, those OH figures really stand out to me...
We'll see.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:06 PM
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39. It could be...

But it all depends on who voted for which issue...I guess. I mean can you really tell by these numbers?
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:57 PM
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5. It states that Obama has the best chance to become a Democratic president
He has a better chance to beat McCave. This is why I support Obama. I want a Democratic president.
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:58 PM
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13. People tend not to vote for the candidate they think will lose...
That is why I am expecting the actual result to reflect that figure...if it is accurate.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:02 PM
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31. IF
by Rudyard Kipling seems to describe Clinton more than Obama--at least the putting all your money on one roll of the dice part, anyway.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:58 PM
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10. everyone thinks there candidate can beat the gop
I read that as more people voting for Obama. I'd love a victory in Ohio
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:58 PM
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11. This doesn't tell us anything
Thanks for the info, though.
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:59 PM
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14. See post 13 nt
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:05 PM
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36. Sorry, but it doesn't say anything really..
Many voters will vote for someone who they think doesn't have the best chance at winning the nomination.
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:42 PM
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49. We'll see. nt
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:59 PM
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It tells us enough to keep biting our finger nails.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:59 PM
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15. Is there such a thing as a hard exit poll? n/t
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:00 PM
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22. These are actual numbers...
the first exit polling "data" that was leaked sucked.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:00 PM
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23. that sounds real uncomfortable
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:01 PM
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27. This was my first thought, but I didn't have the stones to post it nt
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:59 PM
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16. I used to know someone who took Halperin..
can't recall what it was for though.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:01 PM
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25. It sounds like something Rush Limbaugh took
n/t
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:07 PM
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41. Ya, I think it was a pre-lobotomy med. Or anal disorders ..
gee I'm not sure but Rush qualifies wither way.
Anal disorder of the brain maybe.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:59 PM
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18. I guess Hillary's pie charts didn't give her the edge after all.
It is Obama's inspirational leadership people crave and voters clearly see him as the best bet against the GOP.
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:00 PM
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20. NOT A TROLL-BREAKING *BREAKING*-BREAKING*-HILLARY IS FINISHED
First Word of Exits For Ohio, Texas, Rhode Island, Vermont

This is interesting. One of my sources has gotten two sets of exit poll results. It's unclear whether this is different pollsters or, I suspect, different times of day.

For the first set, Obama is up by 2 percent in Ohio, Hillary is up by 2 percent in Texas, Hillary is up by 3 percent in Rhode Island and Obama is up by a 2 to 1 margin in Vermont.

The second set is similarly close - Hillary up by 2 percent in Ohio, the two Democrats tied in Texas, Obama ahead by 2 percent in Rhode Island and a similar 2 to 1 margin in Vermont.

You'll hear more as I learn more.


03/04 06:00 PM

National Review
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:02 PM
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29. Wow! He's made all four states competitive.
I'm telling you that boy has skills!!!

Woo-hoo!!!!! :)
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:03 PM
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32. Where are you getting these?
Obama up 2 in Rhode Island?????
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:06 PM
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37. National Review online is my source
That's the source which has nailed the primary exit polls so far. Hillary looking like she'll have a net gain of 0 delgates tonight and still be 105 total delegates behind.

Look for a withdrawal annoucement within 48 hours.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:59 PM
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19. Does anyone know how to add?
Those numbers are over 100!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:00 PM
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21. I don't think this was an either/or poll.
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 06:13 PM by AtomicKitten
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:01 PM
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24. How come some of the %'s add up to more than 100?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:01 PM
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26. Nice, but where's the money shot?
Where's it gonna say who won won?

If Barack takes a double shut on the important states (ooo, another nice dig at Rhode Island and Vermont!) I think we have to call this over. I'm not optimistic, however. I still think Ohio is Clinton's to win.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:01 PM
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28. A clarification of these numbers:
We do not know if these are polled as attributes of candidates, or as reasons for having voted for candidate X.

As in, "Among voters who said their top reason for picking a candidate was that he or she inspires them about the future..."

The fact some of the the numbers add up to more than 100 suggests they are not either/or questions. So we have the answers, but not the questions. (?)
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NMMatt Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:02 PM
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30. What I find interesting is that Ohio and Texas are so similar
But it is hard to see what these numbers mean completely out of context.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:04 PM
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33. This is the scary part.
More than half say they would be dissatisfied if their candidate does not win the nomination.

I was afraid this would happen. We need to wrap up this race soon before it gets worse and helps McCain's chances.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:06 PM
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38. this is why the supers will choose a side.. and fast
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:04 PM
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34. Nora O'Donnell just said on MSNBC that...
in their exit polling, "change" won over "experience"...or something to that effect. I was scolding my cat. Anyone catch that?
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:07 PM
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40. Woo hooo! Change = Obama!

Signed, sealed, delivered!
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:12 PM
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43. Yes, I did. I was just about to post that.
I can't remember the numbers, though, but I remember thinking it was substantial enough to look pretty good for Obama, if accurate.

Will see if I can find it.
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:22 PM
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47. ABC news has the same thing here...
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:10 PM
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42. Remember Kerry. Remember Dukakis
Both seemed shoe-ins. Dukakis was double digits ahead of Bush throughout the summer.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:13 PM
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44. Nowhere does it say how anyone voted
Anyone can get anything they want from polls like that.
Is this the type of crap they use now and call it exit polling?
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Skoods Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:18 PM
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46. Haven't we learned from 2004
that exit polls are useless
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:23 PM
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48. precisely! Kerry won handily in the exit polls
We'll know in a few hours so I am not going to get all worked up about the speculation of exit polls.
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