why SHOULD hill drop out?

[peanut]

This drive by the party and media to make Hillary drop out is
nuts. Here's a pure and simple mathematical fact: Hillary
holds the lead in DEMOCRATIC votes across OUR Democratic
primaries. These ARE the Democratic Party primaries, correct?
Obama's lead in every instance comes from Republican and
Independent crossover voting. One reason the party has created
the "super" delegate structure is to keep
Republicans, Independents and other voters who may possibly --
just possibly -- not have Democratic values and ideals at
heart in their primary voting strategy -- from hijacking OUR
party's nomination choice. Super delegates are NOT all party
fat cats and our own electeds (although when they became the
bad guys, i don't know). Some are long time party activists
who have worked up from the streets and the "ranks"
and i think how they are being played in the media is pretty
shitty too. Actually, do I trust my congresswoman, Kirsten
Gillibrand, to make the best possible decision she can for her
party? Absolutely. That's one reason i voted for her. If I
felt compelled to make her to vote "with her
constituents," she'd probably have to vote for McCain.
(And please, young'uns, don't remind me that McCain is a
Republican, I was actually making a JOKE.)
Hillary has nearly as many as delegates as her opponent, and
neither can prob. enter the convention with the magic number.
That's why sometimes conventions ARE about bartering among
competing views. Many many candidates have gone all the way to
the convention with FAR fewer delegates simply to bring their
weight, and their issues, to the fore and make sure they are
dealt with in the national party platform. This is what the
convention is FOR. The most compelling candidates fight for
support, bring their delegates and their issues to the floor
and the Democratic Party convenes to discuss, vote and take
its campaign forward. Hillary -- love her or hate her -- has
fought for and earned a place as a leading voice in that
convention. As someone who voted in these primaries (whoever I
voted for), I expect her and her delegates to be there.

[RL3AO]

1. Plagerism anyone?

:)

[Robeson]

20. You caught that, too....

...;-)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. Math is hard!

:eyes:

[DJ13]

3. Because she's behind in delegates, total votes, states won

Want more reasons?

[dorktv]

4. Being behind does not mean she cannot catch up.

[DJ13]

Being behind does not mean she cannot catch up.

It does this late in the primary season.

[dorktv]

17. look at it this way-if the superdelegates are going to decide this race...

they may choose to follow the "momentem" and if Senator Clinton manages to win more contests than Senator Obama in the next two months than it will seem she has the "momentem" and they will go with her.

[Gore1FL]

22. she needds all th non-committed Super Delegates

and virtually 100% of PA, but OK....

[dorktv]

23. Eh...I still think this will be a brokered convention that forces the

Republicans to keep trying to have to combat TWO candidates that possibly might be the nominee.

[Gore1FL]

24. There are only 26 Edwards delegates

that is a slim margin for a brokered convention.

[dorktv]

25. Yes it is a slim margin, and I doubt the delegate count will be that

close.

Besides, if one drops out, the delegates are usually released.

[Gore1FL]

27. if the delegates are released

then there is no such thing as a brokered convention. One will have 2025 by default

[dorktv]

28. Indeed.

[Unsane]

7. In this case it does.

[Zachstar]

8. Let me add that the republicans HAVE their candidate now.

And unless she can reduce Obama's lead to 50 or so it is just giving them more time.

[grantcart]

9. behind in

delegates
primaries
money
donors
caucuses
popular vote
dem senator endorsements
dem govenor endorsemetns

[stahbrett]

5. Democratic party allows for open primaries - you can't change the rules mid-stream (nt)

[jgraz]

6. Because she's disgracing herself and the party

And she keeps giving McCain ammunition to use against Obama in the fall.

[Nine]

10. because it inconveniences Obama

just as she's done by inconsiderately campaigning against him. At least that's the idea I get from DU. :eyes:

[BlueJac]

11. Because a fork needs to be inserted

She is DONE...................we are sick of OLD SCHOOL........WAKE THE FUCK UP!

[AZBlue]

12. I can't get beyond this: Hillary holds the lead in Democratic votes across our Democratic primaries

What a load of bullshit. If you're going to start off with lies like that, I won't bother reading beyond it.

[BlackVelvet04]

13. She shouldn't drop out. n/t

[sfam]

14. I have no problem with her staying, as long as she isn't bloodying everything that moves...

This is the problem - Hillary's scorched earth approach is hurting Obama - not enough for her to make a comeback but certainly enough to hurt him when facing McCain.

In retrospect, if this crap causes Obama to lose in the GE, we will all remember this in 2012 when Hillary comes calling again.

[kelligesq]

15. Delegates were switching to 0 becasue they believed the MSM propaganda - these

votes show that wa bulloney.

Let's see some switching back now occurring. Watch,

[gravity]

16. She can't win, and it will only harm the party

It is near impossible for her to win at this moment, and using negative attacks against Obama will only aid McCain.

[FlyingSquirrel]

18. How about:

1. No way to win without seating Michigan in which she was the only one on the ballot
2. Nasty campaign using tactics better suited to Repugs
3. Actually said McCain would be better president than Obama (!!!!!!!!)
4. No way to win without superdelegates overturning popular delegate vote
5. Clinton on ballot energizes Republican base in November

Those are enough for me...

[kelligesq]

21. Gee - you wouldnt have switched to 0 would you? surprised at you

Flying Squirrel
]
If Obama is the nominess I wont be voting .

McCain is probably less dangerous than "New World Order"
Obama

[FlyingSquirrel]

26. Wow.

I'm speechless.

[HeraldSquare212]

19. Cool - she could President of Democratic Voters.

[harun]

29. Simple, winning in November is more important than her being the

nominee. The longer she stays in now the more it hurts our chances in November. This isn't rocket science.