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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:05 PM
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The BIG Winner tonite.....
NEGATIVE CAMPAIGNING!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE ARE NO BETTER THAN THE FUCKING REPUGS NOW. Its a sad day in Amerika.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:06 PM
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1. There is nothing wrong with negative campaigning.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:07 PM
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You're at the wrong site then.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:33 PM
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48. You haven't a clue what you're talking about.
I'm pretty sure you don't even know what negative campaigning is.
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CPschem Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:07 PM
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3. i'd argue that there's something wrong with shameless fearmongering
Karl Rove style.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:33 PM
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49. Of course there is. But that has nothing to do with
negative campaigning.
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:07 PM
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4. hillary is winning the republican way.
well, she'd not really winning.
delegates.
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:17 PM
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18. Look at the county maps! She's winning the repub counties!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:44 PM
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35. of "Registered" Texas Democrats.....67% voted for Clinton.
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 11:44 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:33 PM
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27. And she will lose the same way ...
in November.

We are getting hoodwinked if anyone believes that people are going to cross the isle to vote for Clinton over McCain.
It is just not going to happen.
Every minute she stays in the race, slowly diminishes our chances to take back the Whitehouse.

Cheers
Drifter
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:41 PM
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34. correct.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:07 PM
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5. Your posts seem sympathetic to islamic terrorism.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:34 PM
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50. What is that supposed to mean?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:19 PM
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54. That there's nothing wrong with negative campaigning.
;)
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:06 PM
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55. Well, thank God.
:hi:
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:08 PM
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8. Not if you're a republican, no.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:35 PM
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51. Oh, god. Another one.
Have you ever taken any kind of government or political science class in your life?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:38 PM
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29. it is truly shameful and i hope obama will take the high road and kick ass
and put that negative campaigning where it belongs.

it is more than just negative campaigning btw.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:36 PM
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52. Negative campaigning belongs in all political campaigns.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:10 AM
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46. Well, Hillary should have thought twice before letting this happen.
If she wins the nomination, her opponents can pull out all the stops.
Sorry I think she set herself up to be a target.

She won but she lost.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:37 PM
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53. I agree.
And you can't hit a that target without negative campaigning.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:06 PM
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2. I agree.
But hopefully, when the air clears, Obama will come out stronger.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:08 PM
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6. Negative campaigning = is nothing new in politics n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:40 PM
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33. i wont reward it. i wont allow fear and lies to convince me to vote for someone. it is why
i am so strongly opposed to the republicans. not because i am a democrat, but because of their disgusting way they ran elections and i canot vote for anyone, support anyone, allow anyone to win that will lie to win.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:08 PM
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7. Yep. I wish obama wasn't such a negative influence and negative campaigner.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:08 PM
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9. The big winner is McCain
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:09 PM
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It worked in South Carolina.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:09 PM
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10. Big Winner is People who took the time to VOTE!
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:10 PM
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11. The big loser? Obama's race-baiting. One too many times to the well.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:16 PM
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17. Race baiting????- keep repeating this-
you might end up believing it if you keep it up-

But you won't make it any less a lie.

:shrug:


peace~
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:11 PM
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12. Sickening isn't it?
I'm disgusted by the stupidity of our citizens! A lot of people fall for the DUMBEST, LAMEST lines!

Gosh, do you ever wonder why dishonest Republicans can get so rich? Maybe, it's because they know how gullible people are. And, they're low enough to take advantage of this.

Honest democrats, on the other hand, don't try to profit from the ignorance of the masses.

This is so discouraging. How are things ever going to change when Mark Penn (YUCK!) wins???????
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:13 PM
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14. Thank you......
I wanted to write those same things, but am too upset to do so.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:12 PM
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13. when media coverage is extremely biased
negative campaigning can be expected
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:15 PM
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15. oh yeah- any means to an end eh?
:shrug:


peace~
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:22 PM
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19. I'm not saying it is right
I am saying it is predictable
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:16 PM
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16. Actually the media won this
Because of the way they spun everything towards Hillary. When they didn't show Obama slamming McCain, and actually pretended McCain had won that match-up, I knew they were going to run this out for Hillary.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:23 PM
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20. actually
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 11:28 PM by Skittles
it has been well-proven that coverage was more favorable towards Obama
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:26 PM
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21. No, what's proven is Hillary can whine about anything
She launched negative attacks, the media reported it, and then they turned around and called that truthful reporting unfavorable. The only unfavorable reporting about Clinton is on shit she actually did. And she whines and calls it sexism and gets away with at. As a woman, I've never been more disgusted with women in my life.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:27 PM
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22. what has been proven to me
is the Bots on DU on both sides whine even more than idiot freepers
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:28 PM
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23. Hear, hear !!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:31 PM
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25. Just deny reality because you don't like it
Just brilliant. Get a friggin' mirror.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:32 PM
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26. yes, that is what it is
:rofl:
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:45 PM
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37. could that b because he doesn't merit as much negative
press?

She IS experienced- she has more baggage than he does.

Negative press is also EARNED-


:shrug:


peace~
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:30 PM
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24. I agree. and since Clinton thinks they worked she will continue to
attack our presumptive presidential candidate dividing the party and doing McCain's work for him. The Clinton's are for th Clinton's and that is all. I got fooled once- but never again.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:37 PM
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28. you are right on. it stinks, literally smells, ... bad. and doesnt go away
i was concerned they were too buddy with bushcos. i was hearing similair rumblings of bushcos.

and for people on this site to now say, .... nuthin wrong with it.... to promote lies to win

shame.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:39 PM
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30. The Big Winner if the Dems are stupid enough to go for Hillary?
Say Hello to Pres McLame....



Hillary's pal and the next POTUS.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:39 PM
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31. hillary is a republican, not suprised
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:40 PM
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32. 7 more weeks! Welcome to Demolished Underground.
There won't be anything left 2 months from now.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:44 PM
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36. God, I hope you are wrong.....
but, I despair.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:48 PM
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38. Negative Campaigning is NOT winning. That's hype and it's not reflected in the math.
It would be a fine argument to make, had Obama been leading in Texas and Ohio weeks ago. He wasn't.

What happened here was Obama started chewing away at Clinton's lead in those states (20+ points in my state, Ohio). He continued to chew away as the negative campaigning began. He closed hard and fast... one more week, and I think we'd have had the symbolic popular vote victory in these states.

But Clinton's victory is not an endorsement of negative politics, and I feel strongly that those who think it is aren't really looking at this clearly and with perspective.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:59 PM
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40. The small, tiny bit of optimism I have left
wants to hope you are correct.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:11 AM
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47. Hang onto it, dollface.
Optimism is why Obama is winning. Math counts. States count.

:hug: OwnedByFerrets :hug:
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:53 PM
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39. No because Hillary beat Obamas 6 month negative campaign.
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Soon2bRenditioned Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:03 AM
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41. WTF??? Obama has been very positive. He has drawn differences...
about NAFTA, small difference on healthcare and the vote in Iraq. Please, I want to know where he has gone negative? When has he crossed the line? When has he virtually endorsed the repug?
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:07 AM
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44. If you still have your koolaid goggles I can't help you.
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Soon2bRenditioned Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:28 PM
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56. Please provide details....I need to know what I am missing.
Seriously. I have been following the race for ever now, but I guess I may have missed something. What are the negative things that Obama has been doing. I have seen him attacking McCain, not Clinton unless it is a policy difference.

Discussing differences about health care is fair game. Saying McCain is better than Obama...not ok.

Saying Obama did not hold oversight meetings for Europe...fair game. Saying he had oversight over Afghanistan when there is separate sub-committee...not ok.

Seriously, please respond because I want a dialog. Educate me.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:04 AM
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42. Big winner is the GOP.
They're eating popcorn and laughing while we're tearing each other apart.

They'll have months to put together the most monumental swiftboating yet for the sorry bastard that's unfortunate enough to crawl bleeding out of Pennsylvania or Denver the nominee.
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pjazz19 Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:06 AM
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43. I really hope Obama wins
It will be awfully hard to vote for Hillary if she is the nominee after the massive BS she pulled. Truly, it just goes to show the Clintons care more about winning than about anything else. They will do and say anything to be elected.

I could NEVER vote for McCain, so I really don't know what I'd do.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:09 AM
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45. What do you expect, A-holes of a feather...
... campaign like neocon repukes
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:36 PM
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57. obama went negative first
smearing hillary....saying she sat on wallmart board, etc.........

trying to smear her on nafta....etc.....

only it BACKFIRED

he can dish it out, but can't take it himself
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