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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:12 PM
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Someone please explain the logic behind appointing a DINO/DLCer as our Dem representative?
What exactly is the logic behind appointing a Dem with SUPER HIGH negatives and who has proven to be a lap dog for the BFEE????

Oh, that's right. She's a woman, so that makes everything else in her sordid and pro-corporate bootlicking history moot. Jeesh.

J
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:16 PM
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1. Will the O-Bots ever stop whining? (rhetorical question, btw)
What's the logic behind electing an empty suit who cannot muster an ounce of substance and relies on a 1st-grader mindset of "vote for me because I'm not Hillary" ?

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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:18 PM
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3. So you are comfortable with a candidate who enabled the Bush War? A candidate who is a DINO/DLCer?
I noticed that you didn't address my question.

Why vote for a candidate who wouldn't stand up to Bush?

Simple question. Tough to answer.

J
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:51 PM
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14. No, I'm not comfortable with a phony who's to the right of her and is an apologist for the regime.
Both candidates suck.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:56 PM
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16. Clinton is not responsible for the iraq War; Bush is
Go peddle your strawmen somewhere else, kool-aid sipper.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:20 AM
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22. Oh, that's right. Hillary's not responsible for any of her BFEE enabling bullsh*t.
Go ahead and support your DINO/DLC Faux Dem candidate. I'll be laughing on general election day when she gets her ass kicked and you are faced with realization that your boneheaded support for her led, in part, to President McCain. Dumbass.

J
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:22 AM
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24. Pure slander.
Remember, your precious Obama agrees with her 90% of the time.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:34 AM
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26. /yawn
Faux outrage is so cute in the teenage years.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:17 PM
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2. Well, she does have one clear advantage
McCain will never be able to run ads where Hillary's primary opponent endorses his candidacy over hers.

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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:25 PM
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4. no logic- This isn't about putting the best person in the White House-
this is all about Hillary getting what she has wanted for a long time.

That hasn't happened yet- and if she gets the Nom. it may very well never ever happen.

But it won't be for lack of her doing whatever it takes.


Which is the sick, sad truth.

No whine- no tears- This is EXPERIENCE talking- and that's all that counts according to "Hill"- even if it is negative experience.


:shrug:


peace~
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:28 PM
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5. Amazing, isn't it? Simply amazing. I'm ready to call it quits. I'm about done with the Dem party.
n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:26 AM
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25. Democracy too much for you?
Totalitarian government has everyone thinking only one way. I'm sure you'll be comfortable in one of them. After all, that's the appeal of the Obama "movement," isn't it?

Democracy, which you clearly despise, requires COMPROMISE. That's hard. REALLY hard. And imperfect. But people who REALLY want change, instead of just chants, do the work and stay in the game and work with what they have.

But I guess that isn't you.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:29 PM
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6. because they want to lose to the republicans again
im guessing
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:31 PM
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7. What's the point in appointing an inexperienced first term freshman senator
to be our representative?
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Hatalles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:31 PM
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8. Hillary supporters were non existent on DU a year ago.
What changed?
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:43 PM
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9. ask yourself who is really voting for her in the primaries
Democrats or Republicans? Just because there's a cross over vote in the primaries doesn't mean she's going to be elected in November. There are plenty of Republicans voting Democratic in the primaries, especially now that McCain has this wrapped up. Why not try to play dirty and crossover vote for the Democratic candidate that everybody loves to hate? I don't particularly care for either of the Democratic candidates that remain. As is generally the case, my preferred candidate (John Edwards) was already out of the race before my state had its primary. I'm going to vote for the Democratic candidate in the general election but I strongly believe that Obama has a better chance at winning.
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stahbrett Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:48 PM
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11. Older white women, less educated people
No offense intended, but she does best with older white women, and the less educated.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:50 PM
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13. Funny. Those tend to be the same groups moved most by FEAR and latent racism.
I guess Hillary will be happy to win regardless of the cost.

J
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:53 PM
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15. Your comments are so offensive and sexist and full of shit it's pretty unforgivable.
MAYBE, just MAYBE they're voting for her because they're concerned about choice, and because they don't believe that Obama's really antiwar anyway. Are black men racist sexist pigs for voting for Obama?

NO!

So CUT THE RACE BAITING SHIT OUT!!!
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:10 AM
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18. Hillary carried 70% of voters > 65 yrs. I don't know if you can get your head out of your ass, but.
Those are the individuals of a generation where segregation was the norm and as a result have grown up with a totally different set of mores than the 70% who are < 25 yrs. who vote for Obama.

Racism tends to track positively with age (i.e., racism goes up as age increases). And, THAT'S A FACT...JACK.

J
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:05 AM
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17. Ironically, my 70 year old white mom (who won't admit it but I'm pretty sure voted for W)
is an Obama supporter. In the past couple elections she would say that votes were private for a reason and she wouldn't tell us who she voted for. This time around she was really vocal about supporting John Edwards and then when he dropped out she went for Obama over Hillary in a heartbeat. I live in WI and maybe people are different here (ok,not maybe, we are different) but here Hillary is hugely unpopular, hated even, by left and right wing alike. I can't see her winning WI in the general election.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:12 AM
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19. It's likely to be regional. Here in the South those > 65 years. and white tend to be racist.
I know there are exceptions, but I have lived in the South almost all of my life and there is deep distrust between races as age increases in the individual. It's not an outward racism, but likely to rear its head when alone in the voting booth.

J
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:45 PM
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10. Because Democratic voters want her, instead of Republicans and Independents
who have been giving Obama his so-called win?

If you don't like the Democratic system you can go vote for Nader.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:49 PM
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12. I don't fucking know
I understand it with people who don't pay close attention, but DUers ought to know better. I don't get it at all.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:16 AM
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20. Need a pillow to cry on?
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nomorewhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:17 AM
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21. hillary would be crushed in a general election
her negatives are off the charts

i honestly could not imagine losing to a republican in 2008, but mccain will draw millions of independents to his campaign if hillary is the nominee
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:37 AM
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27. EXACTLY. So, why are Dems supporting her with such fervor?
Talk about a circular firing squad. I'm still dumbfounded by the inability of some Dems to see these basic truths about her POOR chances in any general election.

J
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:20 AM
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23. Give her her due. Yes she will tear us a new ass hole before
this is over but be gracious.
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