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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:40 AM
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This may be a dumb question, and this is not meant as a slam, but has Obama won any "blue" states?
Now I'm sure the first question will be, "what do you mean by "blue" states?"

I mean the states that the so-called MSM says are "blue" states, as opposed to the "red" states that they (the MSM) says we (Democrats) are not supposed to win in the General Election.

Again, this is not a slam, I'm just too tired (or lazy) to figure this out myself right now.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:41 AM
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1. Well let's see, he won Vermont tonight
What do you think? :)
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:49 AM
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20. Vermont in not usually a "blue" state...
...that was a "surprise win" for Kerry in 2004 if I'm remembering correctly.

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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:56 AM
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24. huh?
Bernie Sanders

Patrick Lehey

Howard Dean?

Vermont is good blue, except for the governor
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:21 AM
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31. Sorry, I always get Vermont and New Hampshire confused...
...both are a sort of wedge shape.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:39 AM
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33. actually NH is trending more and more blue too
all those exiles from Boston
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:01 AM
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29. Vermont has gone to evey Dem since 1992
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:28 AM
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32. Sorry, confused it with New Hampshire again...
...but I wasn't asking how they actually voted in the last few elections, but how the MSM tells us how the states are supposed to vote (and label them "red" or "blue").

For some reason, they are almost always act surprised when Vermont and New Hampshire go for the Democrat.:shrug:
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:41 AM
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2. Yes, he's won more blue states than Hillary Cliton
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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:42 AM
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6. Yea sure he has...not
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:44 AM
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13. Actually, he has...take a moment to read and do some minor arithmetic...
you'd be amazed what math can do for you.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:41 AM
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3. Vermont, for one.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:41 AM
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4. Yes. He won Illinois.
He lives here, so that was a given.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:52 AM
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22. That's one, but it's his home state, that's usually a given in the primary
Did Gore win his home state in the Primary, I can't remember. I know he lost it (Tenn.) in the General election.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:41 AM
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5. Maine
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:58 AM
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27. I thought Maine was a "swing state"
Not solidly "blue or "red."
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:42 AM
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7. No. IL, VT, ME, WA, DE, CT, MD are not blue states
Mark Penn told me so.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:44 AM
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15. Thank you skipos!
:-)

Clarity is a good thing tonight.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:49 AM
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21. You forgot MN, WI, MD, and IA (Iowa is borderline, but without it we don't win the EC)
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Skoods Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:42 AM
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8. Connecticutt
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Skoods Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:43 AM
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9. Delaware
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 12:43 AM by Skoods
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:44 AM
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10. Washington state, nt
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:44 AM
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11. CT, IL, WA, WI...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:44 AM
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12. Anybody who qualifies their statement without asking out right
in my mind is trending towards slam.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:44 AM
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14. "Obama Has Won More Blue States"
According to this thread:

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Obama Has Won More Blue States

It is just another Clinton lie that she has won the states we need to win in the fall. Not only has she not won the majority of blue states, she did not win the cities in the blue states she did win. She won those states by splitting the city/rural vote the same way the Republicans do. If you look at the map, Obama wins cities and progressives, and adds independent mountain and northwest voters. Even if she wins Ohio and Texas, they're red states anyway so they don't further the argument that we need her to win in November. Democrats, Independents, Republicans, the majority in all parts of the country have chosen Obama.

Obama:
WA, HI, MN, WI, IL, ME, CT, MD, DE, VT

Hillary:
CA, MA, NY, RI, NJ,

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4890354
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:45 AM
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16. Is Ohio a "blue" state?
i didn't know that!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:57 AM
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26. Usually, unless the election is stolen.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:12 AM
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36. No it's not. It's always been a swing state
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:46 AM
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17. "There are no red states or blue states, there are only UNITED STATES"
raaaaaaah!! raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:46 AM
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18. Wisconsin, Washinton, Delaware,
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:47 AM
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19. MN,
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:55 AM
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23. The big blues are the most important Next is Ohio and Florida
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:56 AM
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25. Washington State. And, he won it by 68% to 32%. Makes Hillary's Ohio win look sad.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:59 AM
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28. If Dems Only Win "Blue" States, Then NOTHING Will Change
Dividing the country between red and blue states is a recipe for disaster, and it's the main reason why things are the way that they are.

Everybody here loves to scream at the Dems in congress for not stopping the war, but the Dems do not have enough votes to overturn Republican filibusters.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:03 AM
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30. DU
For one ;)
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:43 AM
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34. You are missing the point here people.
Blue states aren't going anywhere; purple states are turning blue, and with the republicans as unhappy with McCain as they are, those red states all come into play. Well, except Tennessee.

Obama will have no problem beating McCain. By the time Hillary gets through with him, they won't be able to say he is untested, will they.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:57 AM
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35. and you all forget
Hawaii.

Obama has actually won just as many blue states, and just as many big states.
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